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za Offline Max Stone

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1050 on: February 09, 2019, 03:03:21 PM
Not sure when they dropped the fish hook file groove. This PST II from 0903 has nice aggressive file and plain diamond surface.  :tu:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1051 on: February 09, 2019, 03:06:37 PM
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1052 on: February 09, 2019, 03:38:53 PM
Not sure when they dropped the fish hook file groove.

Approximately since mid-2002.


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1053 on: February 09, 2019, 03:48:31 PM
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1054 on: February 09, 2019, 04:26:21 PM
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1055 on: April 25, 2019, 06:00:44 PM
I finally got it  :)
Really first ever Cabela's PST (serif font of etching on knife blade) with first original leather sheath (large snap cap, clear and off-center Cabela's logo, no spacers inside on rivets).



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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1056 on: April 25, 2019, 07:19:14 PM
Congrats on that one, wow :salute: :drool: :like:


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1057 on: April 25, 2019, 11:08:42 PM
I finally got it  :)
Really first ever Cabela's PST (serif font of etching on knife blade) with first original leather sheath (large snap cap, clear and off-center Cabela's logo, no spacers inside on rivets).


That's about as cool as a Leatherman gets! Well done, great find. Looks in great condition too!  :like:

First time I've seen the centre hole in the pivot?  ???
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1058 on: April 25, 2019, 11:28:36 PM
Quote from: Max Stone
First time I've seen the centre hole in the pivot?  ???

On early PST's pliers heads (~1983 - 1984) this centre hole in the pivot is usual and often.
Later PSTs and JPSTs hasn't these holes.


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1059 on: April 25, 2019, 11:37:09 PM
I agree!!
Congrats on that one, wow :salute: :drool: :like:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1060 on: April 26, 2019, 01:54:46 AM
I finally got it  :)
Really first ever Cabela's PST (serif font of etching on knife blade) with first original leather sheath (large snap cap, clear and off-center Cabela's logo, no spacers inside on rivets).

Wow .... erm  ....   Wow  :)

Congratulations - Although I'm surprised you did not have this already.
I guess the features you describe above are different form the other early Calelas PSTs
It's the first time I have seen the blade etching (although, I note, it is in my table in the first post!! .....  I had to check !!  ;) )

It's great to see you still getting excited about a single PST - given your collection  :D  - So I guess this was a bit of a Holy Grail !!   :tu:
And it's in great condition.

It's an amazing bit of history - I wonder how many of these are around the world? - I bet TL has one !!! 


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1061 on: April 26, 2019, 06:36:59 PM
Although I'm surprised you did not have this already.
I guess the features you describe above are different form the other early Calelas PSTs
It's the first time I have seen the blade etching (although, I note, it is in my table in the first post!! .....  I had to check !!  ;) )

Of course, I already had few Cabela's PSTs, but this one has earliest and rarest knife blade with serif font ethching.
Sans serif font etching more common and occurs on later PSTs.



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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1062 on: July 15, 2019, 06:37:08 AM
Of course, I already had few Cabela's PSTs, but this one has earliest and rarest knife blade with serif font ethching.
Sans serif font etching more common and occurs on later PSTs.


I have one of those early ones but I'm not sure if it's the first batch that came out since none of the handles have the Leatherman brand on the handles at all. Only says Leatherman USA on the blade and it says Leatherman on the pliers.


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1063 on: July 15, 2019, 06:39:21 AM
I just have no idea why the handles are blank, although it does have the patent but I think that's it


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1064 on: July 15, 2019, 06:46:14 AM
I just have no idea why the handles are blank, although it does have the patent but I think that's it
Got any photos of it?
Sounds like an interesting example. :)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1065 on: July 15, 2019, 07:03:54 AM
I just have no idea why the handles are blank, although it does have the patent but I think that's it

If it's like on the picture, you have one of the earliest PST which was produced for Early Winters stores in 1983 -1984.

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1066 on: July 15, 2019, 07:50:17 AM
Got any photos of it?
Sounds like an interesting example. :) Looks just like the picture above


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1067 on: July 15, 2019, 06:39:06 PM
That was the version my Dad had.  He was so thrilled with it!
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1068 on: July 15, 2019, 06:46:03 PM
That was the version my Dad had.  He was so thrilled with it!
I wonder how many are left out there. It's been 35 years and they didn't make too many.


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1069 on: July 15, 2019, 06:47:46 PM
I wonder too....most were well used.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1070 on: July 15, 2019, 07:04:26 PM
I wonder too....most were well used.
Yup, the one I have has a broken screwdriver and the pliers are super worn. It has a lot of scratches and it can flip open like a butterfly knife.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1071 on: July 15, 2019, 07:05:36 PM
I love the look of the early ones. 
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1072 on: July 16, 2019, 03:37:13 AM
I wonder how many are left out there. It's been 35 years and they didn't make too many.

They used to turn up on the bay of thieves every now and then ( I have 4 that I purchased late 2013 to early 2014) but are much less common these days.

Many of the ones I've seen have the owner's name stamped on the handles, so maybe Early Winters used to do that for free ?
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1073 on: July 21, 2019, 10:40:47 AM
These are the file versions I currently have, but am wondering how many file variations there are out there?





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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1074 on: July 21, 2019, 10:57:45 AM
These are the file versions I currently have, but am wondering how many file variations there are out there?

By my current count:
US PST (1983 - 2017) - 25 file variations (5 double/double cut, 10 single/double, 10 double/single)
Japan PST (1984 -1989) - 6 file variations (2 double/double, 4 single/double)
PST II (1995 - 2004) - 3 file variations (diamond/double)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1075 on: July 21, 2019, 11:06:34 AM
Thank you, wowaboro!  :salute:

That is quite a lot.  :o

Are all of the variations fairly obvious, or are some only noticeable by serious PST collectors?
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1076 on: July 21, 2019, 11:22:44 AM
Thank you, wowaboro!  :salute:

That is quite a lot.  :o

Are all of the variations fairly obvious, or are some only noticeable by serious PST collectors?

Here are my signs for file variations:

Front side cut
Back side cut
Cutting part lenght
Single cut direction
Single cut coarseness
Blade length
Blade tip form
Metal saw edge form
Nail nick length and width
Tang edge form
Tang length (for PSTII)
Tang stamp
Tang stamp font size
Tang stamp side
Tang surface
Groove position (for PST II)

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1077 on: July 21, 2019, 11:31:58 AM
Very cool! Thank you again, wowaboro!  :cheers:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1078 on: July 21, 2019, 12:28:34 PM
I’ve just had to reset my view of how little I know about PST variations.  :facepalm:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1079 on: July 21, 2019, 01:17:54 PM
I’ve just had to reset my view of how little I know about PST variations.  :facepalm:

I suspect that wowaboro may know more about PST variations than any other person on earth   :salute:  :hatsoff:

And he has definitely got  the most impressive PST collection that I know of   :tu: (and I have over 100 PSTs, so I'm no dilettante in this particular field).
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