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za Offline Max Stone

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1080 on: July 21, 2019, 05:42:45 PM
No smurfing gregozedobe! Impressive indeed  :iagree:

We need a sticky Hall of Fame thread for you PST Masters.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1081 on: July 21, 2019, 06:41:04 PM
The wowaboro Juice collection is incredible as well. :drool:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1082 on: July 21, 2019, 10:23:20 PM
I suspect that wowaboro may know more about PST variations than any other person on earth   :salute:  :hatsoff:

Including anyone in Portland!! :pok:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1083 on: July 24, 2019, 02:40:13 PM
Q? Why do the Japan PST's have rivets instead of sexbolts? what was the reason behind?
Logically for me, LMN used sexbolts in order to be able to ease the repair process due to the warranty offered, yet the rivets, contradicts this logic (in my mind)
So, what was so special about the Japan/(maybe Asian) market.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1084 on: July 24, 2019, 07:46:10 PM
It was just easier for them to get rivets back in those days vs the knurled screws :cheers: LM had such a high demand for the PST that they couldn't handle the orders coming in so they had to outsource them to keep up with the demand  :salute:


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1085 on: July 25, 2019, 06:46:16 AM
Hmmm, From manufacturing point of view it makes sense to use rivets instead of screws, possible the machines and raw material were at hand, and no screw producer had to be found. This for Japan.
Yet than, if the demand was so high, why not use rivets in the US too, because... Altough the production line was, using rivets could help the building time and also drop the manufacturing cost
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1086 on: July 25, 2019, 11:36:33 AM
:shrug: It may boil down to the fact that LM had enough of the screws for what they were producing in house but not enough to send to the Japan manufacturing :dunno:


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1087 on: July 29, 2019, 05:05:47 PM
What's up all - new member and new Leatherman obsessive. Been stalking this thread in particular for a while as I try to build a vintage collection. I've got a very small collection so far - hunting a 1983 Cabelas currently. This thread is absolutely invaluable.....

My search has shown me that another potential factor of change is the sheaths; earlier iterations had more basic Leatherman stamps vice the Leatherman with the TM mark on the sheath. This after the Cabelas stamp, obviously. I'm not sure when that happened but it seems to have been in the mid 80s. Anyone have any more input? OP doesn't seem to talk about it.

I'll post a pic of the collection once some missing pieces come in.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1088 on: July 29, 2019, 05:46:57 PM
Welcome to :MTO:  cant wait to see the collection  :like: :popcorn:

We have an old school LM sheath thread around here somewhere  :think: I think I remember where and will post a link :tu:



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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1090 on: July 29, 2019, 07:28:32 PM
Welcome X-F  :MTO:
Good luck with the hunting.  :salute:
And December we’re doing a PST challenge...
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,82188.msg1977752.html#msg1977752
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1091 on: July 30, 2019, 08:30:03 PM
Welcome X- factor, nice to see new members  :tu:


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1092 on: August 03, 2019, 12:13:58 AM
Ok. So. Here's a list of what I have....only been at it a couple short months, hard to find older PSTs it seems:

- PST - early/mid 80s
- PST - earlier Japanese version (no lanyard + hollow rivets)
- PST - 0497/0797, Cabelas marked
- Micra from 2000
- Charge Plus TTi
- Surge LE (black & white)

Not sure how best to post pics to illustrate the older PSTs but it's fairly clear to me about their age given the info in the OP. The oldest is also marked with "Castle Engineering Co / Lakewood, Co" (top/bottom handles on reverse).

I could share pics easily via IG dm I think

Still hunting an 83 Cabelas PST......


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1093 on: August 03, 2019, 08:36:56 AM
So the journey has begun. We need to see pics  :popcorn:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1094 on: August 03, 2019, 03:15:13 PM
Ok. So. Here's a list of what I have....only been at it a couple short months, hard to find older PSTs it seems:

- PST - early/mid 80s
- PST - earlier Japanese version (no lanyard + hollow rivets)
- PST - 0497/0797, Cabelas marked
- Micra from 2000
- Charge Plus TTi
- Surge LE (black & white)

Not sure how best to post pics to illustrate the older PSTs but it's fairly clear to me about their age given the info in the OP. The oldest is also marked with "Castle Engineering Co / Lakewood, Co" (top/bottom handles on reverse).

I could share pics easily via IG dm I think

Still hunting an 83 Cabelas PST......
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Amazing start to the collection so far, X-Factor! :o :like: :drool:

Good luck on your quest to get the tools you are looking for! :)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1095 on: August 03, 2019, 03:44:46 PM
So the journey has begun. We need to see pics  :popcorn:

 :iagree: :like:

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And hope you can track down the ones you want :salute: :tu:

And welcome to  :MTO:  :cheers:


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1096 on: August 04, 2019, 07:30:25 PM
Hopefully this works...I took some decent pics (not sure if Imgur will butcher them) of my older PST. I date it to around 84-85 based on the OP but I offer it to the forum experts to say one way or another.

http://imgur.com/gallery/MVntatf

If this works I'll do my Japan PST next - that's a real stunner!

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1097 on: August 04, 2019, 07:57:21 PM
Also, I found this on EBay. Not sure HOW rare it is but the condition is awesome. Too pricey for my blood though....

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F254319905491


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1098 on: August 04, 2019, 08:47:33 PM
Hopefully this works...I took some decent pics (not sure if Imgur will butcher them) of my older PST. I date it to around 84-85 based on the OP but I offer it to the forum experts to say one way or another.

http://imgur.com/gallery/MVntatf

If this works I'll do my Japan PST next - that's a real stunner!

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That is a nice example, X-Factor! :like:

Looking forward to seeing your JPST! :popcorn:

The JPST, with its' rivets and large font, is the best looking PST version IMO. :)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1099 on: August 04, 2019, 08:51:06 PM
That is a nice example, X-Factor! :like:

Looking forward to seeing your JPST! :popcorn:

The JPST, with its' rivets and large font, is the best looking PST version IMO. :)

Thanks! Glad the pics worked minus getting brutalized by the Imgur "community"

The JPST I have is the open rivets/no lanyard one, making it one of the earlier JPST iterations I believe. I'll work on those pics. ;)


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1100 on: August 04, 2019, 09:07:30 PM
As promised, my JPST. I think this is an earlier JPST from 85-86 based on the OP criteria but on top of that the condition is amazing! I need to clean the leftover weird adhesive from the handle but otherwise it's practically unused.

http://imgur.com/gallery/MsR4H2D

Let me know your thoughts!


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1101 on: August 04, 2019, 09:53:38 PM
As promised, my JPST. I think this is an earlier JPST from 85-86 based on the OP criteria but on top of that the condition is amazing! I need to clean the leftover weird adhesive from the handle but otherwise it's practically unused.

http://imgur.com/gallery/MsR4H2D

Let me know your thoughts!
Wow. Very nice! Don't see a lot of the really early ones!  :o
Thank you for sharing! :cheers:

I've just got JPSTs with the large font w/ Lanyard ring right now. But, the large font is a favorite of mine. Though, an early one is on the want-list right now.  :ahhh

This photo has one of them in it.

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1102 on: August 04, 2019, 09:56:02 PM
Wow. Very nice! Don't see a lot of the really early ones!  :o
Thank you for sharing! :cheers:

I've just got JPSTs with the large font w/ Lanyard ring right now. But, the large font is a favorite of mine. Though, an early one is on the want-list right now.  :ahhh

This photo has one of them in it.
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whats the one on the right? is that the ressiue that Tim signed a while back? I saw one of those for $800 on ebay the other day. Insane.


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1103 on: August 04, 2019, 10:12:36 PM
whats the one on the right? is that the ressiue that Tim signed a while back? I saw one of those for $800 on ebay the other day. Insane.

https://www.leatherman.com/collectors-edition-pst-532.html?dwvar_532_color=10&cgid=multi-tools#start=1



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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1105 on: August 04, 2019, 10:25:51 PM
whats the one on the right? is that the ressiue that Tim signed a while back? I saw one of those for $800 on ebay the other day. Insane.
Indeed it is the reissue. But, eBay sellers have been trying to juice them for a while for insane amounts. Like Wowaboro posted, LM still has some for less than eBay sellers are asking. Since I am not a big fan of storing packaging, I found a site that had the LE PST for $150 shipped. It was new in box with sheath, but iust didn't have the presentation box and doodles that come with the more expensive one. :ahhh

https://www.leatherman.com/collectors-edition-pst-532.html?dwvar_532_color=10&cgid=multi-tools#start=1
Thank you, wowaboro! :salute:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1106 on: August 04, 2019, 10:28:55 PM
Thats what I figured. Cool but not one I'm into lol
Said the same thing for months, but eventually saw one for $150 and couldn't help myself.  :facepalm:
The fit & finish of the LE is incredibly good. The pliers head doesn't even touch any implements when folded up. :)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1107 on: August 05, 2019, 03:17:37 AM
Great example of an early PST :like: I have a very early one but it doesn't have Pocket Surival Tool on it :dd: :drool:


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1108 on: August 06, 2019, 01:37:44 AM
Is there any idea on how many black oxide PST with cap crimpers were made?

What seem to be the most rare combos?


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #1109 on: August 06, 2019, 03:58:09 AM
Is there any idea on how many black oxide PST with cap crimpers were made?

What seem to be the most rare combos?

Lots of BO PST CC tools were made, I think the CC is more common than the standard pliers in BO PSTs.

Rarest would be BO JPST (only one known)

Then i think the SS JPST "large lanyard" would be next, then the SS PST CC (but these aren't super rare).

But it depends on how fine a division you draw with minor variants (it is a "lumpers" vs "splitters" thing as far as classification goes).  As an example, I have an old PST with NATO NSN 786-5369 ^ 1992 markings which is the only one I know of, but to some people it would just be a version 7 SS PST.
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