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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #120 on: October 15, 2008, 10:45:56 PM
Hmmm - that's interesting. Does the tool have a lanyard attachment, and large font on the handles?

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #121 on: October 15, 2008, 11:05:10 PM
Quote from: DaveK on October 15, 2008, 10:45:56 PM
Hmmm - that's interesting. Does the tool have a lanyard attachment, and large font on the handles?



Funny you should ask about that, it has indeed a lanyard attachment, the biggest i ever seen on a PST  :D
and that`s not all it also has hollow rivets on one side, and yes, LEATHERMAN (large fonts)  :)

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #122 on: October 15, 2008, 11:18:27 PM
You see I have a tool here that is the same as the one you describe, except the blade tang says "Leatherman", and it has "US REG'D TM 1325473" instead of a patent number.

It could just be that we're seeing the "chaos years" that Tim Leatherman told us about!

We need to collect all this info, and combine it with Bob's chronology project and come up with some kind of classification system. Bob has made huge strides towards that, but I'm sure I'm not the only one struggling to compile all this data and come up with something meaningful!

I'll have a think about setting up a database where we can all key in the relevant features of our PSTs and see what we can glean at the end....

We should also transfer this discussion to the chronology thread I reckon!
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #123 on: October 15, 2008, 11:22:23 PM
That was more difficult than it looked.  :D
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #124 on: October 15, 2008, 11:23:37 PM
Quote from: Benner on October 15, 2008, 11:22:23 PM
That was more difficult than it looked.  :D

I can imagine - thanks Ben :salute:

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #125 on: October 15, 2008, 11:27:34 PM
Quote from: DaveK on October 15, 2008, 11:23:37 PM
Quote from: Benner on October 15, 2008, 11:22:23 PM
That was more difficult than it looked.  :D

I can imagine - thanks Ben :salute:



 :salute: indeed  :)

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #126 on: October 15, 2008, 11:29:53 PM
I will post a picture of the big lanyard attachment later

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #127 on: October 15, 2008, 11:45:02 PM
Quote from: Offroad on October 15, 2008, 11:29:53 PM
I will post a picture of the big lanyard attachment later

That would be cool. I'm looking at how to make a database accessible to all.........

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #128 on: October 15, 2008, 11:59:09 PM
here it is  :-\
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #129 on: October 16, 2008, 12:22:24 AM
i have two of the Black Oxide PST with cap crimper made within the same year,
on closer inspection i saw that the plier heads are very different.
One of them is very "flat" compared to the other and little bit shorter, and the USA/LEATHERMAN marking i slightly moved
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #130 on: October 16, 2008, 01:22:09 AM
I have something similar, but not quite the same. The pliers with SS finish are more "rounded":

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #131 on: October 16, 2008, 01:42:40 AM
PST markings

Knurled screw construction  -  NO date stamp
Handle stampings: REG’D TM 1325473 - Ruler is inch/metric   
Other 3 handles are blank - Knife tang stamped LEATHERMAN USA
LEATHERMAN USA cast into plier pivot - lanyard ring



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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #132 on: October 16, 2008, 02:27:43 AM
I can't tell from your pics, does it have the hard wire notch in the cutters? I'm guessing not.

If that's correct, the lack of date codes and the presence of the metric ruler suggests that this tool was made in the late 1980s, before 1992.

It looks to be in great condition for its age!

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #133 on: October 16, 2008, 03:04:43 AM
Quote from: DaveK on October 16, 2008, 02:27:43 AM
I can't tell from your pics, does it have the hard wire notch in the cutters? I'm guessing not.

If that's correct, the lack of date codes and the presence of the metric ruler suggests that this tool was made in the late 1980s, before 1992.

It looks to be in great condition for its age!



thanx, I bought it last month at a pawn shop who is a LM dealer - it is new in box with all papers and leather sheath.
There is the hard wire notch / cutter in the head and  " Hard Wire Cutters " is listed on the front of the box.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #134 on: October 16, 2008, 03:15:36 AM
Quote from: eodtech on October 16, 2008, 03:04:43 AM
Quote from: DaveK on October 16, 2008, 02:27:43 AM
I can't tell from your pics, does it have the hard wire notch in the cutters? I'm guessing not.

If that's correct, the lack of date codes and the presence of the metric ruler suggests that this tool was made in the late 1980s, before 1992.

It looks to be in great condition for its age!



thanx, I bought it last month at a pawn shop who is a LM dealer - it is new in box with all papers and leather sheath.
There is the hard wire notch / cutter in the head and  " Hard Wire Cutters " is listed on the front of the box.

Oh - that's the wrong answer :D

The hard wire notch isn't supposed to be there until after the date codes. You sure there are no date codes inside either handle?

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #135 on: October 16, 2008, 03:30:06 AM
I had a total of 5 new PST's I bought last month.

4 had rivets holding them together and date codes stamped in the handles,

The one with the knurled screw construction has no date code stamp,
It did have Knurled screw construction  -  NO date stamp
Handle stampings: REG’D TM 1325473 - Ruler is inch/metric   
Other 3 handles are blank - Knife tang stamped LEATHERMAN USA,
LEATHERMAN USA cast into plier pivot - lanyard ring.

There is the hard wire notch / cutter in the head and 
" Hard Wire Cutters " is listed on the front of the box.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #136 on: October 16, 2008, 04:27:40 AM
Quote from: eodtech on October 16, 2008, 03:30:06 AM
No date codes - I had a total of 5 new PST's - the other 4 had rivets and date codes, this on has none .

 :ahhh Great that sounds like another mystery 2 me :ahhh :D
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #137 on: October 16, 2008, 07:45:31 AM
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No date codes - I had a total of 5 new PST's - the other 4 had rivets and date codes,
this one with the knurled screw construction has no date code stamp .

Rivets WITH date codes?  That's new isn't it?

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #138 on: October 16, 2008, 11:07:48 AM
Quote from: Benner on October 16, 2008, 07:45:31 AM
Rivets WITH date codes?  That's new isn't it?

Any chance of some pics?

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #139 on: October 16, 2008, 02:39:58 PM
^^ Like they said. We were lead to believe that the rivets disappeared long before the date codes appeared - so that would change the thinking considerably!

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #140 on: October 18, 2008, 06:39:37 AM
Quote from: DaveK on October 16, 2008, 02:39:58 PM
^^ Like they said. We were lead to believe that the rivets disappeared long before the date codes appeared - so that would change the thinking considerably!



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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #141 on: October 19, 2008, 10:42:04 PM
Quote from: DaveK on October 16, 2008, 02:39:58 PM
^^ Like they said. We were lead to believe that the rivets disappeared long before the date codes appeared - so that would change the thinking considerably!




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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #142 on: October 20, 2008, 12:48:00 AM
Hi EdoTech,

What are the date codes on the four riveted PST models?

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #143 on: December 07, 2008, 02:35:52 AM
Quote from: joebw on October 20, 2008, 12:48:00 AM
Hi EdoTech,

What are the date codes on the four riveted PST models?

Thanks - Joe

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #144 on: December 07, 2008, 04:56:31 PM
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What are the date codes on the four riveted PST models?

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #145 on: December 11, 2008, 05:52:57 PM
Quote from: eodtech on December 07, 2008, 04:56:31 PM
Quote from: joebw on October 20, 2008, 12:48:00 AM
Hi EdoTech,

What are the date codes on the four riveted PST models?

Thanks - Joe

Not sure now, they are all gone.

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #146 on: February 22, 2009, 01:54:27 PM
An early-early one, with an original user's guide.  :)


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #147 on: February 22, 2009, 05:40:36 PM
How early is that one? Look at the can/bottle opener, it looks weird! As a matter of fact, all of that PST's tools look different!
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Reply #148 on: February 22, 2009, 05:54:47 PM
 :ahhh That tool is awesome where did you happen upon that 1 Bob :ahhh :drool: :D
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #149 on: February 22, 2009, 05:55:02 PM
Quote from: J-sews on February 22, 2009, 01:54:27 PM
An early-early one, with an original user's guide.  :)


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Well that there is right at the top of my want list just now Bob. Until then, the closest I have is this one, which is identical, but has no markings except the US PAT number. It doesn't even say Leatherman. I'm not sure if it missed the machine, or maybe (and there are some signs to support this theory) some idiot removed the lettering  :think:

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