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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #210 on: March 23, 2009, 10:38:43 PM
Only if you have a mind that operates at a certain level Ben  :twak:

I do indeed have that level of mind.  :D

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #211 on: March 23, 2009, 10:52:33 PM
a BO PST circa 1993 :D but sadly the blade was broke in the black 1 :cry: I knew going in it was like that though but I also got a nice vintage nylon LM sheath with it :tu:

Shame. Does it have a cap crimper?
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #212 on: March 24, 2009, 12:20:17 AM
a BO PST circa 1993 :D but sadly the blade was broke in the black 1 :cry: I knew going in it was like that though but I also got a nice vintage nylon LM sheath with it :tu:

Shame. Does it have a cap crimper?

Nope it has a regular plier head :)


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #213 on: March 24, 2009, 04:22:56 AM
I can't make out Dennis - does it say Pocket Survival Tool on the handle? It looks as though there's some lettering there but it's a bit faint.

Whether it does or not - you've gotta love that drop point blade, no?


Yes, it does say Pocket survival tool.  The stamping is not as deep as later LMs.  I do like the blades

Actually - I can see it now in the bottom picture! It looks similar to mine - you have to catch it in a certain light to make it really stand out. Does it have the "hollowed" screws on the back?

Hey - you know you get 20 questions when you post on this thread :D
No hollowed screws on this one.. But looks like it has seen very little use and is in   VGC so I'm happy. The lettering is plain but my close up camera skills kinda suck.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #214 on: March 24, 2009, 12:03:58 PM
I can't make out Dennis - does it say Pocket Survival Tool on the handle? It looks as though there's some lettering there but it's a bit faint.

Whether it does or not - you've gotta love that drop point blade, no?


Yes, it does say Pocket survival tool.  The stamping is not as deep as later LMs.  I do like the blades

Actually - I can see it now in the bottom picture! It looks similar to mine - you have to catch it in a certain light to make it really stand out. Does it have the "hollowed" screws on the back?

Hey - you know you get 20 questions when you post on this thread :D
No hollowed screws on this one.. But looks like it has seen very little use and is in   VGC so I'm happy. The lettering is plain but my close up camera skills kinda suck.


Bah, what are you talking about? Those pics are great Dennis. :tu:


Hmmm, notice how "thin" the screw heads are on the early models. :)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #215 on: March 25, 2009, 01:23:39 AM
a BO PST circa 1993 :D but sadly the blade was broke in the black 1 :cry: I knew going in it was like that though but I also got a nice vintage nylon LM sheath with it :tu:

Shame. Does it have a cap crimper?

Nope it has a regular plier head :)

Well that's one I've had no luck tracking down poncho - nice score :tu: We need to find you a blade!
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #216 on: March 25, 2009, 01:53:47 AM
a BO PST circa 1993 :D but sadly the blade was broke in the black 1 :cry: I knew going in it was like that though but I also got a nice vintage nylon LM sheath with it :tu:

Shame. Does it have a cap crimper?

Nope it has a regular plier head :)

Well that's one I've had no luck tracking down poncho - nice score :tu: We need to find you a blade!

That's why I needed PST parts ;) but I have a reg SS 1 coming from Neil so that'll do for now :tu: the finish on it's mighty rough as well so not a very good collection piece I may carry this 1 some :think: and guess what I just got a camo sheath to put it in as well ::) ;) :D


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #217 on: March 25, 2009, 01:58:27 AM
and here's a couple of pics of the predatecode PST I got in the same auction as the BO 1 with it's vintage sheath this 1 is in way better shape :D





and the sheath it's different than any other vintage LM I have seen as to date the insides are mesh :o :D




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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #218 on: March 25, 2009, 03:16:41 AM
I really do like those sheaths with the old logos. Much better than that modern yellow monstrosity.

Looks like you got some great deals there ponch - well done mate  :salute:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #219 on: March 25, 2009, 05:56:29 PM
This sheath is not padded at all and is very flexible just nylon and mesh :) I like the look of it but the nylon ones of just a little later with the padding seem a little nicer :tu: like the camo one I have I mean ;)


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #220 on: March 25, 2009, 07:54:33 PM
This sheath is not padded at all and is very flexible just nylon and mesh :) I like the look of it but the nylon ones of just a little later with the padding seem a little nicer :tu: like the camo one I have I mean ;)

You're really taken with tha Camo aren't you :D I must admit, it is one of my favourites too.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #221 on: March 26, 2009, 03:30:19 AM
Well not thinking as I usually do I forgot to get any before pics of the BO PST :twak: :D but I have the ones from the Ebay auction they really don't show how bad the finish was on the BO PST but it was a little smurfy ::)




and since I was planning on making this 1 a user I thought what the hay I may try my hand at a little spray paining to liven the BO back up ::) :D and TBH it didn't turn out half bad :o once I get another blade in there it won't be in to bad shape ;) see what you guys think :tu:









not perfect by any means but it was in bad repair and at least it will look good for a little while ::) :D


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #222 on: March 26, 2009, 03:33:58 AM
Looking good Ponch! :tu: :D   So flat black spray paint is it? Heck, that will probably hold up every bit as well as the original black oxide does! :P :D
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #223 on: March 26, 2009, 03:40:04 AM
Well it holds up on my brick hammers when I clean them up so I figured I would give it a try :D Already being BO helped quite a bit as well I am sure ;) A reg SS PST probably wouldn't take the paint very well ::)


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #224 on: March 26, 2009, 03:40:52 AM
Owe and side by side with my BO  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh !!!MINI!!! :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh they look almost identical in color :tu:


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #225 on: March 26, 2009, 04:49:13 AM
Good one Ponch  :salute:.
I wonder if giving it a clear sealing top coat would help  :think: :think: :think:

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #226 on: March 26, 2009, 10:10:35 AM
It looks great poncho :tu:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #227 on: March 26, 2009, 09:51:04 PM
Good one Ponch  :salute:.
I wonder if giving it a clear sealing top coat would help  :think: :think: :think:

I may try it like this first and see how it holds up :D I can always sand on it some and respray it :tu:


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #228 on: April 03, 2009, 04:20:16 AM
I thought I'd throw my 2 pence in here as I just picked up my first PST :)

I think it fits in to the scheme of things except for the pliers which are puzzling - old style, with notch but no arrow indicator. That make sense?! It also has "Transocean" printed on one handle - presumably a promo item.

•   Rivets or knurled screws?
knurled
•   Lanyard attachment?
yes
•   (Old) small diameter or (new) large diameter plier pivot?
old
•   LEATHERMAN alone cast into plier pivot? Or with USA? Or TOOL?
with USA
•   A hard wire cutter notch?
yes
•   Handles stamped with what? (see pictures in next post for examples)
LEATHERMAN TOOL, PORTLAND OR (both sides)
•   Inch ruler only, or inch/metric?
both
•   Date codes?
0499 0299
•   Drop point knife blade or clip point? (saber?)
short clip point
•   Knife blade tang stamped LEATHERMAN alone? Or with USA? Or JAPAN?
with USA
•   Screwdrivers: pivot-in or pivot-out?
pivot out

I think it has a right handed can opener - the one with the shorter blade section on it?
So, I assume a 99 model but does the rest tally up to your project?
It came with a nice leather sheath and is in excellent unused condition :)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #229 on: April 03, 2009, 04:39:22 AM
'99 dates, old style plier head, hard wire notch...yep, that all checks out Nuphoria :)  Sounds like yours would have been one of the last ones made before they switched to the wider plier head (in early 2000)
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #230 on: April 03, 2009, 05:01:21 AM
I got this one marked Pocket Survival Tool today.  Very good shape.  Check out the hole in the pivot.

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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #231 on: April 03, 2009, 06:29:10 AM
'99 dates, old style plier head, hard wire notch...yep, that all checks out Nuphoria :)  Sounds like yours would have been one of the last ones made before they switched to the wider plier head (in early 2000)

Cool, thanks. So what are they worth (ball park)?
Need to figure out whether I keep it all shiny and new or use it  :think:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #232 on: April 03, 2009, 09:02:13 PM
'99 dates, old style plier head, hard wire notch...yep, that all checks out Nuphoria :)  Sounds like yours would have been one of the last ones made before they switched to the wider plier head (in early 2000)

Cool, thanks. So what are they worth (ball park)?
Need to figure out whether I keep it all shiny and new or use it  :think:

I paid £20 for one in excellent condition. I don't know if that was more or less than the going rate but I've found it to be worth every penny and then some :D.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #233 on: April 03, 2009, 10:05:52 PM
'99 dates, old style plier head, hard wire notch...yep, that all checks out Nuphoria :)  Sounds like yours would have been one of the last ones made before they switched to the wider plier head (in early 2000)

Cool, thanks. So what are they worth (ball park)?
Need to figure out whether I keep it all shiny and new or use it  :think:

I paid £20 for one in excellent condition. I don't know if that was more or less than the going rate but I've found it to be worth every penny and then some :D.

Nuphoria that all depends on if you want to use it or not :D they can usually be had for a reasonable price so if your not to attached to it already you might want to use it :tu: If it was pre date codes I might differ on that opinion though ;) Since it is a bit newer I would personally use it :cheers:


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #234 on: April 03, 2009, 10:11:46 PM
I got this one marked Pocket Survival Tool today.  Very good shape.  Check out the hole in the pivot.



Never seen a plier head with that tiny hole in the middle of it.  Was that something left from the cast perhaps?


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Reply #235 on: April 04, 2009, 04:39:15 AM
I got this one marked Pocket Survival Tool today.  Very good shape.  Check out the hole in the pivot.



Never seen a plier head with that tiny hole in the middle of it.  Was that something left from the cast perhaps?
First one I have seen like this. So no idea. The other side is a little mushroomed.  That might be the wrong term. Hard to get a good picture of but its definately pushed in more in the center.  Maybe they just hit this plier head a little hard with the press. Or however they do it.
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #236 on: April 04, 2009, 05:26:35 PM
I got this one marked Pocket Survival Tool today.  Very good shape.  Check out the hole in the pivot.



Never seen a plier head with that tiny hole in the middle of it.  Was that something left from the cast perhaps?
First one I have seen like this. So no idea. The other side is a little mushroomed.  That might be the wrong term. Hard to get a good picture of but its definately pushed in more in the center.  Maybe they just hit this plier head a little hard with the press. Or however they do it.


Kinda concave is it then? I've never seen one like that before :think:
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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #237 on: April 05, 2009, 01:41:09 AM
I got this one marked Pocket Survival Tool today.  Very good shape.  Check out the hole in the pivot.



Never seen a plier head with that tiny hole in the middle of it.  Was that something left from the cast perhaps?
First one I have seen like this. So no idea. The other side is a little mushroomed.  That might be the wrong term. Hard to get a good picture of but its definately pushed in more in the center.  Maybe they just hit this plier head a little hard with the press. Or however they do it.


Kinda concave is it then? I've never seen one like that before :think:
Just slightly.      What's your theory on the hole in the other side of the pivot?
Dennis


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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #238 on: April 05, 2009, 01:58:05 AM
I got this one marked Pocket Survival Tool today.  Very good shape.  Check out the hole in the pivot.



Never seen a plier head with that tiny hole in the middle of it.  Was that something left from the cast perhaps?
First one I have seen like this. So no idea. The other side is a little mushroomed.  That might be the wrong term. Hard to get a good picture of but its definately pushed in more in the center.  Maybe they just hit this plier head a little hard with the press. Or however they do it.


Kinda concave is it then? I've never seen one like that before :think:
Just slightly.      What's your theory on the hole in the other side of the pivot?

Complete b.s. theory off the top of my head:  The pivot pins were probably mass produced on a screw machine (a type of high-production lathe) Maybe somehow the cutting tool that cuts the face dwelled for a moment in the very center, leaving a small pit?

Kinda like the opposite of what happened in this picture:





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Re: Leatherman PST chronology project
Reply #239 on: April 05, 2009, 02:08:28 AM
Good a theory as any :D


 

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