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Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club. 12389

Zombie Apprentice Posts: 16,982 I'm not a pessimist, I'm an experienced optimist!
Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #180 on: September 08, 2017, 06:19:24 PM »
The plier head on all the tools from that era were the same except for the grind on the Kick and overall they are personally my favorite of all the different types :like:

Agreed  :tu: although I do prefer the less splayed handle position of the older heads

Why?  :)
I can think of several main plier head types on LM tools off the side of my head.
The original PST head, also found on the Mini-tool, etc.
Also the type that was introduced along with the Zytel line and the original wave, charge etc, that you mentioned, in a few variations(the grind on the Kick, for example).
And the type on the Rebar with replaceable cutters, also the new charge head, new wave head, and the ST300 and MUT type. Not to mention the type on the budget models. And I probably forgot a few!  :ahhh

I don't have any experience with any of these besides the type on the Kick, so which are every bodies favorite type and why?  :cheers:

The Fuse/Wave head is more robust than the PST (and friends) in my mind. I don't mind the one on the Sideclip, which is the only vintage LM I carry, but the Fuse/Wave type fills me with more confidence. The cutters work very well too. The main gripping area isn't ideal (compared to pliers on other manufacturers tools) due to being an interrupted radius, but that;s an issue throughout the LM timeline.

The abomination on the Rebar (and friends) is pug ugly, impedes the main gripping area even worse than the integrated cutter type, has an inferior cutting geometry so greater force is needed, and increases handle splay ever further. No thanks, not for me.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2017, 08:02:45 PM by 50ft-trad »



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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #181 on: September 08, 2017, 06:29:37 PM »
I k ow what you mean. When I had a Sideclip I felt like if I squeezed the tool with all my force (never did) I could snap the handle.

I remember there was a discussion (with myself) about this years ago. I mentioned this about the Wingman and a member offered to buy me a new one if I could snap the handle. Never did try but I always wanted to. Still do.  :D

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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #182 on: September 08, 2017, 07:03:40 PM »
It sounds like I was lucky finding the Kick at the car boot sale, nevermind the price.
It appears to be the best LM to get if you want the slimmest and lightest model with the Fuse/Wave plier head style.
I'd consider the Kick better than the PST for that reason, and the Mini(!  :ahhh ) tool is it's equal solely because of it's super compact size.  :drool:

I k ow what you mean. When I had a Sideclip I felt like if I squeezed the tool with all my force (never did) I could snap the handle.

I remember there was a discussion (with myself) about this years ago. I mentioned this about the Wingman and a member offered to buy me a new one if I could snap the handle. Never did try but I always wanted to. Still do.  :D
I think that flexing handles are better than stiff handles, strength and everything else being equal. :think:
With the flexing handles, you get feedback telling you to back off or else break the tool, a good thing for Pablo the Tool Destroyer.  :ahhh :facepalm:

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

All hail the hook!
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 16,982 I'm not a pessimist, I'm an experienced optimist!
Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #183 on: September 08, 2017, 08:04:25 PM »
I k ow what you mean. When I had a Sideclip I felt like if I squeezed the tool with all my force (never did) I could snap the handle.

I remember there was a discussion (with myself) about this years ago. I mentioned this about the Wingman and a member offered to buy me a new one if I could snap the handle. Never did try but I always wanted to. Still do.  :D

Thanks Cap'n, I'd typed Sidekick instead of Sideclip, and only noticed after your post. Sorry if I confused anyone. Now corrected  :salute:



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Zombie Apprentice Posts: 16,982 I'm not a pessimist, I'm an experienced optimist!
Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #184 on: September 08, 2017, 08:06:18 PM »
It sounds like I was lucky finding the Kick at the car boot sale, nevermind the price.
It appears to be the best LM to get if you want the slimmest and lightest model with the Fuse/Wave plier head style.
I'd consider the Kick better than the PST for that reason, and the Mini(!  :ahhh ) tool is it's equal solely because of it's super compact size.  :drool:

I k ow what you mean. When I had a Sideclip I felt like if I squeezed the tool with all my force (never did) I could snap the handle.

I remember there was a discussion (with myself) about this years ago. I mentioned this about the Wingman and a member offered to buy me a new one if I could snap the handle. Never did try but I always wanted to. Still do.  :D
I think that flexing handles are better than stiff handles, strength and everything else being equal. :think:
With the flexing handles, you get feedback telling you to back off or else break the tool, a good thing for Pablo the Tool Destroyer.  :ahhh :facepalm:

I think flexing handles are better when cutting wire too. They seem to take some of the jolt out of it, and lead to less hand fatigue.



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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #185 on: October 04, 2017, 03:42:57 PM »
Camo Blast on LMF Mora mods  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #186 on: October 16, 2017, 02:13:58 PM »
 :like:
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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #187 on: November 10, 2017, 03:16:16 PM »
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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #188 on: November 10, 2017, 08:27:54 PM »
Nice one Steve!  :like: :tu: :tu:
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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #189 on: November 10, 2017, 08:52:53 PM »
Thanks Vman !  :cheers:
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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #190 on: November 11, 2017, 01:37:55 AM »
Very nice Steve :dd:
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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #191 on: November 11, 2017, 01:52:52 AM »
:hatsoff:
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,345 Man of Multiple MultiTool Manufacturers
Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #192 on: November 13, 2017, 09:14:12 PM »
Add me to the Zytel LM club! :salute:

Finally got all four Zytel models during my goal of collecting all the 4" LM models(not variants). Pics taken with the mighty Core.

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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #193 on: November 13, 2017, 09:51:55 PM »
Nice !   :like: :tu:
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,345 Man of Multiple MultiTool Manufacturers
Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #194 on: November 13, 2017, 10:10:22 PM »

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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #195 on: November 13, 2017, 10:33:01 PM »
That was a great line of tools and I wished they hadn't discontinued them :-\ Glad you got all 4 of them though :like:
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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #196 on: November 13, 2017, 11:45:06 PM »
That was a great line of tools and I wished they hadn't discontinued them :-\ Glad you got all 4 of them though :like:
Thank ya Poncho!
I have been piddling around with the Fuse and Blast and am starting to feel the same way. The blast, while heavier than the rebar, is superb and posssibly better overall..IMO The kick and fuse are perfect for the pocket. No sharp edges. And the clumping on the fuse, blast and Core are almost non-existant. Nice to just get the tool ya need sometimes.
These Zytel LMs have me rethinking the old school mindset a bit. The Zytel seems very rugged for plastic and I have squeezed the pliers as hard as I could to see if there was flex. Very little flex in the Zytel/handles and 99.9% of the time nobody will need that much pressure. I have been a fan of the new wave pliers for a long time and the kick, fuse, & blast have almost the same plier head. The Kick is a decent back pocket tool from what I can tell. Very minimalist, yet practical. I bought the Fuse first and that encouraged the Kick and Blast hunt. I have had the Core for a long time and didn't realize the smaller Zytel stuff was nearly clump free(except the kick) as well.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2017, 11:46:09 PM by gerleatherberman »

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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #197 on: November 17, 2017, 01:28:58 PM »
Great group you have there! They are awesome tools. :like:
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,345 Man of Multiple MultiTool Manufacturers
Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #198 on: November 17, 2017, 02:52:55 PM »
 Thank you glockfan! They seem to have been pushed into the background in the MT world with the newer LM stuff. But, they are still as relevant as the newer LM offerings. IMO :cheers:

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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #199 on: November 17, 2017, 10:59:21 PM »
1117171112b~2 by Poncho 65, on Flickr

1117171110~2 by Poncho 65, on Flickr
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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #200 on: December 03, 2017, 04:23:04 PM »
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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #201 on: December 03, 2017, 04:23:16 PM »
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 55,551
Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #202 on: December 04, 2017, 04:01:26 AM »
Love both of those :like: :like:
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,345 Man of Multiple MultiTool Manufacturers
Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #203 on: December 04, 2017, 04:19:40 AM »
Very nice Core and Blast Steve!
Both are, IMO, extremely superb tools. I love the non-clumping very very much!
The Core(og surge too) has LM's best plier head ever made. :like:

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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #204 on: December 04, 2017, 05:58:49 AM »
Thanks fellas   :cheers:
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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #205 on: January 02, 2018, 05:11:35 PM »
Well, I am a late comer to this club.. better late than never.

Just received my camo Fuse today and its sweet! Grabbed it off Evilbay.





A nice addition to my Zytel family.



I am short of a BO Core to 'complete' the family, or so I thought, naively... Until I look through this thread and literally fell off my chair just on the first page where I saw Chako's collection. How the heck did you find all these things dude? :salute:....
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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #206 on: January 02, 2018, 10:26:09 PM »
Very nice camo Sam :dd: :like:

Chako found these back when they weren't discontinued so it was a bit easier but some of the variations were still scarce :ahhh :D

If your patient you can usually find them on the Bay of E as you did the camo beauty :cheers:
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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #207 on: January 03, 2018, 06:40:26 AM »
Oh ya.. That makes all the sense.. Finding these at this period also kinda makes it more interesting actually. Its even tougher when I am all the way from the other part of the world where there ain't even a market for these tools..
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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #208 on: January 04, 2018, 04:25:16 AM »
That’s a great lineup you have there!

 :like:
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Re: Kick, Fuse, Blast & Core Owners group club.
« Reply #209 on: January 04, 2018, 05:10:48 AM »
That’s a great lineup you have there!

 :like:

 :cheers:

 

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