Woodsmans Owners Club

[Huntsman]

Is there something like a Champion minus scaler? AKA Woodsman add metal file/Ranger add phillips&mag?  Is there a Marlboro one like that?

Exchange the wood saw blade for a file with hacksaw edge and you have a Modeler, also long discontinued and considered rather rare, but not impossible to find. Takes patience. I also wish there was a six layer - the Woodsman plus the Modeler file (or Modeler plus the Woodsman wood saw).

Aha - You guys had this thought too    This configuration would be my dream/optimal large SAK and I was planning to make one someday.

I am really surprised that this was never a standard model - As it seems to "have everything you need and nothing you don't need"
- To quote some recent Gerber advertising!! 
 
And no I am pretty sure there is not a Marlborough model like this.

[magentus]

Great thread Love all the pics in here

Mags do you happen to have a fanned pic of the Greenwood I think that it is almost as close to a perect SAK as I would find I might add one more tool and perhaps take away the opener layer unless I could add a pruner or electrician blade in place of the can opener

So MTo ponch! Perfect but I would add this and remove this - I love it! I thought mine was perfect, then I did the in-line awl, now I'm thinking, 'but it's got 2 awls! Who needs 2 awls (apart from firiki)? It's a never ending quest!

I'm beginning to think an XLT with scaler removed would be my ideal SAK. But then again I don't like some of the back tools - chisel for example. 

Here's the pic as required:
WP_20161021_003 by magpie2112, on Flickr

[firiki]

Great thread Love all the pics in here

Mags do you happen to have a fanned pic of the Greenwood I think that it is almost as close to a perect SAK as I would find I might add one more tool and perhaps take away the opener layer unless I could add a pruner or electrician blade in place of the can opener

So MTo ponch! Perfect but I would add this and remove this - I love it! I thought mine was perfect, then I did the in-line awl, now I'm thinking, 'but it's got 2 awls! Who needs 2 awls (apart from firiki)? It's a never ending quest!

I'm beginning to think an XLT with scaler removed would be my ideal SAK. But then again I don't like some of the back tools - chisel for example. 

Here's the pic as required:
WP_20161021_003 by magpie2112, on Flickr

*Cough, cough* Pikachu *cough*

Hey, the two awls can be complementary to eachother and also serve different purposes. One has a threading hole too, remember? 


What's wrong with the chisel?

[magentus]

Nothing inherently wrong with it - It's just something I have never used and don't see the point of - bit of an afterthought on Vics part - what can we put there?

I've read elsewhere that some have found a use for it though.

I don't really mind too much about the two awls - and you're right about the slightly different uses. 

[firiki]

I think of the chisel as a 'why not' addition: it can come in handy sometimes and it doesn't take up much space. Although, I do think the tools on the back cause the respective tools on the front to have a lesser snap

I've used the chisel on my beater Ranger to sharpen a pencil and also to scrape off some gooey substance off a chair. Don't use it as an fine screwdriver though

[magentus]

Yes, I think I'd rather them not bother than half arse it - the extra snap would outway the advantage of a half arsed too IMO.

[JamesJ]

I'd much prefer an inline chisel.  We've seen the backside chisel modded onto a 58mm frame, as well as the backside awl and even backside phillips. The chisel especially is a tool that seems awkward as a back tool. But I dont mind it being there. Haven't used it but I do like to look at it once in a while.

[magentus]

The in line chisel on the Spirit is an excellent tool - I use it quite a lot. I guess as a back tool there isn't enough clearance to make it truly practical, whereas Vic are usually eminantly practical.

[Thunderpants]

One of the reasons I often use my Craftsman is the long thin screwdriver on the back.
Whenever you're trying to wire a light or a light switch - or do anything to do with household electricity - you need a much finer tool than that ridiculous thing on the can opener. For some reason only the fattest Saks have the narrow screwdriver, a truly indispensible tool (and one I value more than the inline Phillips.)
I'd agree with you about the tiny chisel, however. The times you need one of those are few and far between when you have the rest of the SAK at your disposal.

[Barry Rowland]

I like it Mags!!   

[gw8433]

I have these two items~~

[Boonies]

I have these two items~~

Woodsman in the foreground and Modeler in the back.....very nice.....

[Barry Rowland]

It came today and I love it!!

[jalind]

It came today and I love it!!

Thought you would . . . the icing on the cake is the belt case it comes in. I wish we could buy those!
 

John

[Barry Rowland]

  I agree sir!!

[Boonies]

   A couple of older Woodsmen yesterday, both are before they added the magnifier and inline Philips.  The 1st is from the early 70's I believe and is brand new in the box.  Clip small blade and 5 loop, grooved corkscrew.  No T&T or keyring.  Number on box is 1. 37 10.  I could not find this is SAKWiki but the Huntsman is 1. 37 13.  Anybody have a reference that shows this number??  Knife also has an interesting blade etch.

2nd is post '85 and has the Ecoline shield I think.  Also a nice knife.  No T&T but this one has a key ring.

Added to the collection........😛

[cali-SAK-attack]

Awesome snags , Boonie Max 

I got this one in the other day........ 
The Nature Store LE black scales w/ Rabbit inlay 

[Boonies]

Awesome snags , Boonie Max 

I got this one in the other day........ 
The Nature Store LE black scales w/ Rabbit inlay 

A Woodsman and black scales to boot....not too bad,,,,,     Watch out, they grow on you!!!!  😜

[jalind]

  A couple of older Woodsmen yesterday, both are before they added the magnifier and inline Philips.  The 1st is from the early 70's I believe and is brand new in the box.  Clip small blade and 5 loop, grooved corkscrew.  No T&T or keyring.  Number on box is 1. 37 10.  I could not find this is SAKWiki but the Huntsman is 1. 37 13.  Anybody have a reference that shows this number??  Knife also has an interesting blade etch.

2nd is post '85 and has the Ecoline shield I think.  Also a nice knife.  No T&T but this one has a key ring.

Added to the collection........😛

Nice very vintage find on the first one!

I'm wondering about dating the second one which has no fluting on the corkscrew and an eye in the awl. The eye was added in 1985, but the fluted corkscrew continued into the early 1990's. The imprint on the ecoline scales is consistent with the early 1990's as well and they're prior to the introduction of nylon in 1994. I'd date it as a 1991-1994 Huntsman as the pre-magnifier/Phillips layer "Woodsman" was before the 1985 sewing eye according to SAKWiki. Was bouncing between the SAKWiki and sakhome.com looking at the back layer tools and scales. The initial "tell" for me was the non-fluted corkscrew, followed by the sewing eye.

They both look to be in great condition for their age.

John

[magentus]

Awesome snags , Boonie Max 

I got this one in the other day........ 
The Nature Store LE black scales w/ Rabbit inlay 

Nice one Cali! Love the rabbit inlay 

[cali-SAK-attack]

Thanks , Boonie & Mags   

[Barry Rowland]

  !!!

[magentus]

WOODSMEN HO!
WP_20161031_007 by magpie2112, on Flickr

[Oxford_Guy]

Is there something similar to the Woodsman (with Phillips driver and magnifier), but with the metal file/saw instead of the wood saw?

[jalind]

Is there something similar to the Woodsman (with Phillips driver and magnifier), but with the metal file/saw instead of the wood saw?

Absolutely! The Modeler (also long discontinued).
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Modeler

John

[Oxford_Guy]

Is there something similar to the Woodsman (with Phillips driver and magnifier), but with the metal file/saw instead of the wood saw?

Absolutely! The Modeler (also long discontinued).
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Modeler

John

 

[jnoxyd]

Woodsman's brother - Modeler.

[Boonies]

  A couple of older Woodsmen yesterday, both are before they added the magnifier and inline Philips.  The 1st is from the early 70's I believe and is brand new in the box.  Clip small blade and 5 loop, grooved corkscrew.  No T&T or keyring.  Number on box is 1. 37 10.  I could not find this is SAKWiki but the Huntsman is 1. 37 13.  Anybody have a reference that shows this number??  Knife also has an interesting blade etch.

2nd is post '85 and has the Ecoline shield I think.  Also a nice knife.  No T&T but this one has a key ring.

Added to the collection........😛

Nice very vintage find on the first one!

I'm wondering about dating the second one which has no fluting on the corkscrew and an eye in the awl. The eye was added in 1985, but the fluted corkscrew continued into the early 1990's. The imprint on the ecoline scales is consistent with the early 1990's as well and they're prior to the introduction of nylon in 1994. I'd date it as a 1991-1994 Huntsman as the pre-magnifier/Phillips layer "Woodsman" was before the 1985 sewing eye according to SAKWiki. Was bouncing between the SAKWiki and sakhome.com looking at the back layer tools and scales. The initial "tell" for me was the non-fluted corkscrew, followed by the sewing eye.

They both look to be in great condition for their age.

John

You might be right on the 2nd one, it is a bit of a jumble.  I was going by the listing and because it had no T&T and normally the Huntsman would.  Maybe that has something to do with the Ecoline?  The '91-'94 might be a problem because there also is no hook.  Ecoline again?  I don't know enough about the Ecoline models.

In any event, it is going in with the Woodsman/Huntsman group and will eventually sort itself out.   

[jalind]

  A couple of older Woodsmen yesterday, both are before they added the magnifier and inline Philips.  The 1st is from the early 70's I believe and is brand new in the box.  Clip small blade and 5 loop, grooved corkscrew.  No T&T or keyring.  Number on box is 1. 37 10.  I could not find this is SAKWiki but the Huntsman is 1. 37 13.  Anybody have a reference that shows this number??  Knife also has an interesting blade etch.

2nd is post '85 and has the Ecoline shield I think.  Also a nice knife.  No T&T but this one has a key ring.

Added to the collection........😛

Nice very vintage find on the first one!

I'm wondering about dating the second one which has no fluting on the corkscrew and an eye in the awl. The eye was added in 1985, but the fluted corkscrew continued into the early 1990's. The imprint on the ecoline scales is consistent with the early 1990's as well and they're prior to the introduction of nylon in 1994. I'd date it as a 1991-1994 Huntsman as the pre-magnifier/Phillips layer "Woodsman" was before the 1985 sewing eye according to SAKWiki. Was bouncing between the SAKWiki and sakhome.com looking at the back layer tools and scales. The initial "tell" for me was the non-fluted corkscrew, followed by the sewing eye.

They both look to be in great condition for their age.

John

You might be right on the 2nd one, it is a bit of a jumble.  I was going by the listing and because it had no T&T and normally the Huntsman would.  Maybe that has something to do with the Ecoline?  The '91-'94 might be a problem because there also is no hook.  Ecoline again?  I don't know enough about the Ecoline models.

In any event, it is going in with the Woodsman/Huntsman group and will eventually sort itself out.   

Supposedly the sewing eye in the awl, smooth corkscrew (no fluting), and hook on back layer under scissors were all implemented in 1991, along with moving the keyring from the blade layer to the opener layer. All four should be observed together unless the implementation was staggered to use existing parts stocks, including the scissors layer spring which would have to change add the hook. That wouldn't surprise me as I dealt with product manufacturing for two decades. It's called a "running change". The other thing I couldn't tell from your photo is the location of the keyring. It was also moved in 1991 from the spacer next to the small blade in the blade layer to the spring in the opener layer. No hook has me puzzled some.

BTW, the keyring move from blade spacer to opener spring can be used to categorize a knife that has both full layers as pre-1991 or post-1991. At least in all the older ones I have it's been a reliable benchmark.

John

[Boonies]

Keyring is on the blade layer......another piece of the puzzle.......