Anyone watch the tv show Alone? [SPOILERS!]

[Gerhard Gerber]

good bit of bickering there

I dare say it would be a bit worse if I was there.....  hungry = unreasonable

Correct! 

 

"If you don't forage you don't eat........BROTHER" 

Sure but you're productive. You'd probably grab one of your knives and go take on a bear. Or ride a bear and proclaim yourself a bear calvaryman

[JP]

A Bear Cavalryman would be a fearsome sight but the parade pageantry would be beautiful.

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[styx]

Exactly my line of thought

[styx]

20% is a lot.

I just hope the winners are not going to be toughing it like in season 2

[Gerhard Gerber]

20% is a lot.

I just hope the winners are not going to be toughing it like in season 2

20% weight loss?

Exactly what I need now........

[LoopCutter]

20% is a lot.

I just hope the winners are not going to be toughing it like in season 2

From the show last night that is exactly what is going down. 

They are no longer living, they are hoping from breath to breath that a miracle comes their way.

When it turns cold, food becomes more scarce.  And no one appears to be getting enough. 

Feel bad Ted as he is really suffering from an ailment, 4 days.  Real will power not to TAP.


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[styx]

20% is a lot.

I just hope the winners are not going to be toughing it like in season 2

20% weight loss?

Exactly what I need now........

Well you and I might have some extra. Some of the people there didn't.

20% is a lot.

I just hope the winners are not going to be toughing it like in season 2

From the show last night that is exactly what is going down. 

They are no longer living, they are hoping from breath to breath that a miracle comes their way.

When it turns cold, food becomes more scarce.  And no one appears to be getting enough. 

Feel bad Ted as he is really suffering from an ailment, 4 days.  Real will power not to TAP.


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Sad but true. That willpower is amazing but is it worth it to risk your health in the long run? Even more so since a good chunk of the prize money will go away on tax and from what I understand it is quite expensive to have health issues in the US

[JP]

Canadians in Canada, the health care shouldn't be an issue unless long term specialty treatment is an issue. Canadians also don't get taxed on prize winnings domestically.

Is there other food options that they are going for? Birds a la Fowler from Argentina? Why aren't they trying to lure a seagull? Bald Eagle?

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[styx]

Maybe some trapping and hunting restrictions. What I can't figure out is why no one has tried using an Ojibwe bird snare. They take a bit of time to make but as far as materials you can't reuse in my mind it is a good trade off. A piece of paracord with 7 strands will allow you to make 7 traps

[JP]

Exactly, Head inland with snares

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[Gerhard Gerber]

Few things bother me, but not knowing the area means I hesitate to comment......but here goes.

I would think those waters are very rich in life, is this not so or are they mostly useless fisherpeoples?

Won't go into details here, but why not use unattended hand lines?

Why not catch a bird, even seagulls?  If there's a restriction, just don't film it......

And then....
I've asked goooooogle but the answers seem to focus on eating disorders.....

I can't help but think ALL of them are very far away from permanent physical damage due to starvation....?

[styx]

There are people who went long periods of time without eating, but the chances of liver and kidney damage does exist. Then again, eating a simple diet can also cause problems (don't forget Alan Kay's high blood pressure after 50+ days of seaweed and fish). Diversity in one's diet does help.

As far as eating disorders go there is a point where chances of survival are horribly small.

When it comes to fishing, I'll be first to admit that I suck at it. But that would get me to use more lines just to compensate. Perhaps I should really start fishing and use a pole for a change (handline success is ok)

[JP]

Agreed. The finale doesn't explain any restrictions.

If you have 25 fishing hooks I would have 25 different lines set 24/7.

No snare sets shown

No bird traps.

No big game hunting attempted/shown.

I also don't understand why they wouldn't clear cut a large chunk and begin processing firewood early on when they first arrive.

The folks looked strong and skilled though. Much video footage must be on the editors floor


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[styx]

Not sure it is on the floor if the cameras are digital

Anyway, I remember Fowler recently mentioning how those triple hooks count as 3 individual hooks against your total. And that he would take several of those for static lines if he were to go again.

[Gerhard Gerber]

wow......worst season saved by the last episode......

[styx]

well not a fan of this season overall. oddly I've liked the odd season winners but not the even season winners

[LoopCutter]

well not a fan of this season overall. oddly I've liked the odd season winners but not the even season winners

The words had escaped me, as I can not recall season 2 winner at all. Was rooting for Pete and Sam. 

I really enjoyed Brook's accomplishments.  Maybe a all woman season 6. 



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[Aloha]

I think an all woman show would be great. 

I didn't think this season was great but maybe because the contestants weren't the best at filming?  We were having a chat about how long before death anyone of the seasons contestants could last.  I know some said they could last a year but I highly doubt it.  The lack of food and damage to the body is too great. 

[styx]

well not a fan of this season overall. oddly I've liked the odd season winners but not the even season winners

The words had escaped me, as I can not recall season 2 winner at all. Was rooting for Pete and Sam. 

I really enjoyed Brook's accomplishments.  Maybe a all woman season 6. 



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David McIntyre won season 2. Larry Roberts was the runner up

I'm all for an all female season if they can find women who know their stuff and not YT bikini "survival" experts. A lot of people tap out in the first few days (injured ones not counting towards this ofc)

[LoopCutter]

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David McIntyre won season 2. Larry Roberts was the runner up
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I just don't remember much about their accomplishments to survive, except he was driven to win (out last) to provide a future for his 3 kids in Kentwood, MI with the money.  A minister I recall

I do recall the two ladies, one eliminated herself via distraction while splitting wood, the other was doing great, BUT, missed her family (boys)







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[styx]

only notable thing about the season other than those two ladies was Larry's war with mice

[JP]

I want to see more hunting and for them to explore inland more.

Why wouldn't they make a proper dugout canoe? They had everything on-hand that they would need.

Sooooo many questions

[styx]

I think it would all come down to calories. One exception would be the dugout canoe because they have a limitation on the size of tree they can take down, Which could bring up another question for all those taking the massive felling axes

[Gerhard Gerber]

I worked on the Zambezi river for a while, and I think the only thing worse than making a dugout is actually using it.......

I hope they do a dry & hot environment next......

[styx]

Chihuahuan desert?

[Aloha]

A dry environment would be interesting.  While this show is neat and I enjoy it what we are seeing is what it would look like to just scrape by.  There are some initial skills involved but after the first month we are seeing luck, environment, and grit played out.  At some point the fishing goes away.  We haven't really seen anyone trap much more than mice and fowlers bird.  No actual bigger game was trapped or caught.  The duck that was caught was a lame duck.  I don't remember what else was eaten game wise  .  Oh wait, the bothers also got a bird that stupidly walked right into their camp. 

We've seen some choose the bow and arrows yet no success was had ( on camera ).  Starvation after the culling of the initial 10 seems to be where the demise of contestants lies.  They seem to battle the cold relatively well.  The bothers shelter was crap in their own words.  The first really young man ( season 1 ) slept in basically a tarp tent the whole show. 

Food is the real killer in these situations.  Sure the mind goes for some, injures accounted for some departures, and of course those not really ready to do battle left within a week. 

[styx]

Fowler got one bird with a sling shot too. That might be the most anyone has caught with such active means

[Gerhard Gerber]

I was just thinking, might be difficult in a dry environment to leave participants in spots with roughly similar resources 

Australian Outback?

African Bushveld?

[styx]

Bushveld might be more dangerous due to large predators and other large animals (don't know much about the fauna of that place) plus the venomous reptiles. Outback mostly has those reptiles, crocs and spiders from what I know

[Gerhard Gerber]

True, but it's not Naked & Afraid, so hopefully  they can get fire and shelter easy enough....

When you are equipped, those nasties can become snacks 

Logistics taken into account, what dry area in North America could be used?