How did the Surge go with the handle side stranded-wire cutters?
...SPIRITBeing mocked for its "inferior" wirecutters I think it did perform best (although the difference to the Re-Charge is marginal). Because I think the difference between Surge and Re-Charge might be due to manufacturing tolerance I tested two more Spirits (I don't have more Surges, Charges, Waves or MP-600). Both of those Spirits showed the same result as the first one, cutting the break-cable effortlessly.
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Thanks for the insight I'm surprised at the difference between the Surge and Rebar plier heads. Or am I yes, I think I am. I'd expect a bit of inconsistency but not on that spectrum.MP600 is a shame. I'm pretty sure a fresh MP700 would romp through it, but develop pivot play (too) quickly due to the internal spring. I'd expect the unsprung MP600 to not develop pivot play as easilyGlad to hear about the Spirit. I wasn't altogether sure how it would fare with it being stranded despite not being soft fine strands (which is where it mainly struggles)
I guess the real issue is why you want to sabotage someone's bike.
Thanks for those tests, Beat. Quote from: Etherealicer on June 24, 2015, 10:59:10 PM...SPIRITBeing mocked for its "inferior" wirecutters I think it did perform best (although the difference to the Re-Charge is marginal). Because I think the difference between Surge and Re-Charge might be due to manufacturing tolerance I tested two more Spirits (I don't have more Surges, Charges, Waves or MP-600). Both of those Spirits showed the same result as the first one, cutting the break-cable effortlessly.Not surprised one bit. You misread the "inferior" wirecutters comments. The Spirit and Swisstool are excellent wire cutters for hard wire, fencing wire, ... anything heavy duty. Where they fail is at cutting soft, stranded wire.
You meant squirt, not Micra With my ST300, I do cut stranded wire regularly (clothesline) but use the handle side, special stranded wire cutters. the pliers cutters are not very good for that
Quote from: zoidberg on June 24, 2015, 11:14:29 PMHow did the Surge go with the handle side stranded-wire cutters? Thank you lolPs: "Brake" ;-)
Quote from: enki_ck on June 24, 2015, 11:57:50 PMThanks for those tests, Beat. Quote from: Etherealicer on June 24, 2015, 10:59:10 PM...SPIRITBeing mocked for its "inferior" wirecutters I think it did perform best (although the difference to the Re-Charge is marginal). Because I think the difference between Surge and Re-Charge might be due to manufacturing tolerance I tested two more Spirits (I don't have more Surges, Charges, Waves or MP-600). Both of those Spirits showed the same result as the first one, cutting the break-cable effortlessly.Not surprised one bit. You misread the "inferior" wirecutters comments. The Spirit and Swisstool are excellent wire cutters for hard wire, fencing wire, ... anything heavy duty. Where they fail is at cutting soft, stranded wire. Thanks for the attitude adjustment (wow, that is an obscure movie reference, ten points for house MT.O if you get it ).
Quote from: Etherealicer on June 25, 2015, 07:36:58 AMQuote from: enki_ck on June 24, 2015, 11:57:50 PMThanks for those tests, Beat. Quote from: Etherealicer on June 24, 2015, 10:59:10 PM...SPIRITBeing mocked for its "inferior" wirecutters I think it did perform best (although the difference to the Re-Charge is marginal). Because I think the difference between Surge and Re-Charge might be due to manufacturing tolerance I tested two more Spirits (I don't have more Surges, Charges, Waves or MP-600). Both of those Spirits showed the same result as the first one, cutting the break-cable effortlessly.Not surprised one bit. You misread the "inferior" wirecutters comments. The Spirit and Swisstool are excellent wire cutters for hard wire, fencing wire, ... anything heavy duty. Where they fail is at cutting soft, stranded wire. Thanks for the attitude adjustment (wow, that is an obscure movie reference, ten points for house MT.O if you get it ).Dazed and Confused?
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Good work, E. Was spannering one of my bikes tonight and thought I'd add my findings. Dug out a few multis and some brake cable to test - all ones that I feel would work in a bike tool kit, so the SwissTool is out. Got a Spirit, Rebar, Wave, MP400, Crunch and my new SwitchPlier 2. Also used my Park Tool cable cutters as a benchmarkFirst up, Park Tool CN-10Very good clean cut, easy to grip and not a lot of force needed. No frayed ends.Next, SOG SwitchPlier 2.0Disappointing. Didn't cut through and very hard on my hands when squeezing tight.Leatherman CrunchAlso disappointing. Didn't cut through, cable splayed sideways and got jammed between the jaws.Leatherman WaveDidn't cut through on the first, second or third cut, eventually got it on the 4th. Frayed the ends, generally made a meal of it but did the job eventually.Gerber MP400Very surprising, this one - I wasn't expecting much, but it cut through cleanly and easily on the first try. No frayed ends!Victorinox SpiritCut through first try but not as clean a cut as the Gerber. Expected better.Leatherman RebarThe first cut I tried slipped out of the end of the cutters and one strand was left attached. I tried again, making sure the cable was held in place and this time got a good, if slightly uneven, cut. Uncomfortable to grip - the Wave was better.I also had a delivery of 2.2mm and 2.5mm brass rod today and needed to cut it up for storage. All of the pliers except the SwitchPlier handled the 2.5mm rod with ease - the SwitchPlier only got about 1/3 of the way through and I had to bend the rod to finish. All of them worked just fine on the 2.2mm, and I know from experience that the Spirit and Rebar both cut 3mm brass rod easily.
Thanks for chipping in.Appears that the replaceable wire-cutters on the MP-600 are not a benefit for every task. I should soon have one without too, so I will probably extend my test.