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Craving some Juice.

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Re: Craving some Juice.
Reply #30 on: September 05, 2015, 06:07:40 PM
IMHO the best tools out there is the leatherman wave, victorinox spirit and the swisschamp  :salute:


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Re: Craving some Juice.
Reply #31 on: September 05, 2015, 06:11:27 PM
IMHO the best tools out there is the leatherman wave, victorinox spirit and the swisschamp  :salute:
Don't forget the Rebar  :pok: ;)
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Re: Craving some Juice.
Reply #32 on: September 05, 2015, 06:14:41 PM
IMHO the best tools out there is the leatherman wave, victorinox spirit and the swisschamp  :salute:
Don't forget the Rebar  :pok: ;)

i liked the rebar,but i prefer out side tools ,just lazy i guess  :D


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Re: Craving some Juice.
Reply #33 on: September 05, 2015, 06:17:11 PM
How about that swisschamp though - amazing how many tools are packed into such a small space :tu:
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Re: Craving some Juice.
Reply #34 on: September 05, 2015, 06:20:01 PM
How about that swisschamp though - amazing how many tools are packed into such a small space :tu:

plus vics build quality  :salute:


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Re: Craving some Juice.
Reply #35 on: September 05, 2015, 06:22:17 PM
IMHO the best tools out there is the leatherman wave, victorinox spirit and the swisschamp  :salute:
Don't forget the Rebar  :pok: ;)

And the MP600.....  >:D
There's no such thing as "Too pretty to carry".  There's only "Too pretty NOT to carry"...... >:D


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Re: Craving some Juice.
Reply #36 on: September 05, 2015, 06:23:02 PM
How about that swisschamp though - amazing how many tools are packed into such a small space :tu:

plus vics build quality  :salute:
+1 - I wish other companies held such high standards! :salute:
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Re: Craving some Juice.
Reply #37 on: September 05, 2015, 06:38:01 PM
How about that swisschamp though - amazing how many tools are packed into such a small space :tu:

plus vics build quality  :salute:
+1 - I wish other companies held such high standards! :salute:

just wish vic made a juice sized mt,or lm built the juice like a victorinox  :D
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00 Offline haja.maideen.988

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Re: Craving some Juice.
Reply #38 on: September 09, 2015, 01:55:31 AM
It all depend on your need. bigger or smaller. depend on your need.
Now I chose tool depend on my need, I am using it more in fishing so knife,scissor and a pliers is a must. any tool don't have the scissor I stay away form it.


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Re: Craving some Juice.
Reply #39 on: September 13, 2015, 10:20:23 PM
I love my Juice S2. It could be lighter and u wish it had the spring loaded pliers design of the Squirts, but it's decent enough to overlook it. I love the scissors on the 4 I have, no issues, except I wish the scissors would not require the opening of the can/ bottle opener and, I wish it came with torch construction and a pocket clip. I carry mine in a small belt sheath. It's served me well for 4 years so far


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Re: Craving some Juice.
Reply #40 on: September 28, 2015, 09:11:26 AM
I love my Juice S2. It could be lighter and u wish it had the spring loaded pliers design of the Squirts, but it's decent enough to overlook it. I love the scissors on the 4 I have, no issues, except I wish the scissors would not require the opening of the can/ bottle opener and, I wish it came with torch construction and a pocket clip. I carry mine in a small belt sheath. It's served me well for 4 years so far

I agree with most. Juice S2 form factor is close to perfect for the size of the tools. On a suspension clip it rides perfect. Flatter than a two layer SAK. The tool set is in theory great for my EDC need. It is like a DeLuxe Tinker with real pliers and in-line philips in a much flatter package.
Then comes the down side which is the execution of some of the tools.
Scissors are really big and you almost giggle the first time you pull them out but then you find they have really thick edges, too dull ground and still kind of flimsy. I guess if you take the hassle and bring the edges down to where Victorinox has theirs, they´ll be better.
Pliers are very good. Slim but quite sturdy for the size. Philips driver is excellent. Flat drivers are o.k. Not so long but works good. Bottle opener works good, no problem Can opener works, but not great. No problem.
I think I don´t give up on the Juice because of lack of options in the EDC pocket size multitools.
I love the PS4 but it´s a little too small for some tasks.
What I would like is a PS4 where Leatherman more or less scaled up the design with a factor between 1.5 and 2.0. I would EDC that forever. Small improvements like double bevel blade, semi 3D philips etc but same tool set, spring assisted pliers, file etc.



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Re: Craving some Juice.
Reply #41 on: September 28, 2015, 09:57:57 AM
To everyone, thank you for the encouraging and the discouraging me. I guess I should just mention what I'm going for. I'm trying to go for something on the middle ground of weight, size, strength, etc, and the Juice fits the bill...but  everyone mentions it's shortcomings, and it seems they are plentiful. Super disappointed with many people saying the scissors are sub par which after my experience with the Wingman I am not willing to compromise with mediocre scissors.

I carry a 91mm SAK with pliers (a mod) and don't feel confident in them. I find them dainty with to much flex and play. I truly worry to much about damaging the pliers to try anything even light duty. I only use them when my fingers alone aren't strong enough.

I think the Squirt's pliers would fall in line with the SAK 91mm pliers and the Juice would be slightly above either, but $30ish dollars for a tool and it'd only be good as folding pliers. Don't really see the value in them...but they are pretty.
Especially in orange.

So have you decided what to get in the end?

My 2 cents in terms of getting Juice vs other tools:

1) To be absolutely honest, I really do love the size and idea of having a Juice size MT, which has a plier and still pocketable.  But as 50ft-trad mentioned earlier, it just the execution that really ruins it.  I owned dozens of LM MTs, and I felt the Juice line somehow is sadly the worst in execution, and I felt the quality/fit and finish is even worse than Sidekick/Wingman.

2) I would skip Juice XE6 altogether, because in terms of weight/dimension, it is getting really close to a Spirit X.  Meanwhile, Spirit X offers more funtions, bigger/better and has unarguably the best fit/finish in the industry.

3) I would consider Juice CS4, only if the pliers is an absolute necessity, since a Vic Huntsman can pretty much do the same things with tighter and better execution.

4) I love Juice S4 weight, but the funny part is, for my daily use, I often feel I would even go down one size to Squirt PS4(56g only vs Juice S2 131g).  I think PS4 has better execution and still offers me a mini pliers, which is sturdier than my Vics 91mm pliers. 


 

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