If the KF4 came back...

[NeitherExtreme]

This is following up on the discussion in this thread.

I allowed two votes, cause some of us might be happy with more than one version.

I'd be happiest with the original or with scissors in place of the serrated blade...

[Benner]

I went for original as it would be nice to have a true KF4 return and other.  The KF4 IMO would be perfect if it had scissors instead of the awl and saw, but as I like an awl, I would like to see one of the flat headed screwdrivers changed into an awl. 

[NeitherExtreme]

I would like to see one of the flat headed screwdrivers changed into an awl. 

I think that would be a great idea. The medium screwdriver really doesn't have much use IMO, though I have used it on occasion for prying.

[max6166]

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[Tarrodemierda]

i voted for "other" a i dont want scissors at all.

(diamond)file,saw,serrated blade,those i would like.

[Benner]

i voted for "other" a i dont want scissors at all.

(diamond)file,saw,serrated blade,those i would like.

So you like it as it is then. 

[Tarrodemierda]

it seems so;).i just wondered that almost all voting options had scissors

[appletree_man]

Scissors and no serrated blade. Don't like that at all.

[J-sews]

I went for original as it would be nice to have a true KF4 return and other.  The KF4 IMO would be perfect if it had scissors instead of the awl and saw, but as I like an awl, I would like to see one of the flat headed screwdrivers changed into an awl. 

I feel exactly the same way. 

[gafftapegreenia]

How about you take away the saw and awl, add scissors, and then mate your KF4 with a Farmer for the most non-redundant, compact, and useful EDC's know to man.

[NeitherExtreme]

How about you take away the saw and awl, add scissors, and then mate your KF4 with a Farmer for the most non-redundant, compact, and useful EDC's know to man.

Sounds good to me. You'd still have to plain blades though...

[J-sews]

What if the pliers were spring loaded like the Squirt P4? Would that be an improvement or no?

[gafftapegreenia]

How about you take away the saw and awl, add scissors, and then mate your KF4 with a Farmer for the most non-redundant, compact, and useful EDC's know to man.

Sounds good to me. You'd still have to plain blades though...

And that's a problem? At least they are different styles. Make one a beater and one razor sharp.

[max6166]

How about if you instead dropped 2 of the flatheads for scissors and kept everything else as is? Then you could match it with almost any SAK you wanted - Bantam, Cadet, Soldier, etc. At worst, you'd have a redundant tool or two, but you'd never be short anything.

Actually, that would make the KF4 a much better stand alone tool too...

[NeitherExtreme]

How about you take away the saw and awl, add scissors, and then mate your KF4 with a Farmer for the most non-redundant, compact, and useful EDC's know to man.

Sounds good to me. You'd still have to plain blades though...

And that's a problem? At least they are different styles. Make one a beater and one razor sharp.

Nope, not a problem. Just about the only redundancy I could think between the two. But you're still right, the blade shapes and grinds are way different.

[max6166]

I think I'd like spring-loaded pliers too. They definitely grow on you, especially on a smaller tool.

[gafftapegreenia]

How about you take away the saw and awl, add scissors, and then mate your KF4 with a Farmer for the most non-redundant, compact, and useful EDC's know to man.

Sounds good to me. You'd still have to plain blades though...

And that's a problem? At least they are different styles. Make one a beater and one razor sharp.

Nope, not a problem. Just about the only redundancy I could think between the two. But you're still right, the blade shapes and grinds are way different.

And really, whats wrong with having another blade?

[NeitherExtreme]

How about you take away the saw and awl, add scissors, and then mate your KF4 with a Farmer for the most non-redundant, compact, and useful EDC's know to man.

Sounds good to me. You'd still have to plain blades though...

And that's a problem? At least they are different styles. Make one a beater and one razor sharp.

Nope, not a problem. Just about the only redundancy I could think between the two. But you're still right, the blade shapes and grinds are way different.

And really, whats wrong with having another blade?

Absolutely nothing. I've ruined edges before accidentally (once in the first couple hours of a 4 day trip) and was more than happy for a backup...

[gadgetman7]

I'd be willing to lose the saw and awl but why? Couldn't you put the awl with the scissors like the useless can opener is now?

[NeitherExtreme]

I'd be willing to lose the saw and awl but why? Couldn't you put the awl with the scissors like the useless can opener is now?

Yeah, you could. It would mean making uneven handles like the rest of the Juice line. Not a big deal I guess, but its one of the little details I always liked about the KF4...

[ringzero]

I went for original as it would be nice to have a true KF4 return and other.  The KF4 IMO would be perfect if it had scissors instead of the awl and saw, but as I like an awl, I would like to see one of the flat headed screwdrivers changed into an awl. 

I feel exactly the same way. 

Me too.

Return of the original Kf4 would be great, but an improved Kf4 with both scissors and awl would be even better.

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[I'm Still Bison]

I voted for dropping the saw and awl for scissors,a KF4 in that configuration paired with a Farmer would be an unbeatable combo.

[Smitty44]

I would like to see the scales changed to titanium,and the knife blade made of S30V,or CM154,keep the rest the same.

[Tarrodemierda]

"Charge kf4"

[NeitherExtreme]

"Charge kf4"

Yes please. I think that would be a real winner.
154CM & Ti scales...

[WhichDawg]

This is following up on the discussion in this thread.

I allowed two votes, cause some of us might be happy with more than one version.

I'd be happiest with the original or with scissors in place of the serrated blade...

I'm with you brother, original and no serrated blade!

[Tarrodemierda]

oh you whittlers

im just the opposite,i love serrations.but what ever pleases u

[NutSAK]

I don't need scissors or a plain blade on a Plier Multi since I will always carry a SAK.  For this reason, I voted for the original configuration and the one with scissors instead of a plain blade.

[NeitherExtreme]

I don't need scissors or a plain blade on a Plier Multi since I will always carry a SAK.  For this reason, I voted for the original configuration and the one with scissors instead of a plain blade.

I wondered if some folks would like that option... When I first bought my KF4, I would probably wished for that option most, since I was into carrying a "normal" plain edge knife. Since then I've gotten used to just carrying an MT, but I'd still have a soft spot for such a tool.