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Master Craftsman - Dating help
on: October 07, 2015, 07:28:18 PM
I would love some info on this knife. It is a Master Craftsman?

I find dating very interesting and this one has a halfstop, a sewing eye and a new fine driver. It also has a small "v" tang and a round backside Phillips with can key. So without referring to anything my guess is.....

late 1985? Or is my kung fu not improving?

In my mind this tang and those tools could only have only existed for a short period making this an interesting transition knife.

Or it could be just be all in my head......any opinions?
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #1 on: October 07, 2015, 07:31:24 PM
Im going out on a limb and saying 1982-85  :think:
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #2 on: October 07, 2015, 07:32:19 PM
Just be nice and offer to buy her dinner.
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #3 on: October 07, 2015, 07:34:55 PM
Quote from: HarleyXJGuy on October 07, 2015, 07:32:19 PM
Just be nice and offer to buy her dinner.

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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #4 on: October 07, 2015, 07:41:26 PM
Is the scissors joint rivet or screw?  If it is rivet, then it may be after 92.  Most tool on this seems to be 85 and after.
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #5 on: October 07, 2015, 07:42:43 PM
Screw scissors no groove.
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #6 on: October 07, 2015, 07:44:57 PM
Quote from: VoetSak on October 07, 2015, 07:42:43 PM
Screw scissors no groove.

 :salute: i prefer the groove as the spring doesnt slip out as much  :tu:
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #7 on: October 07, 2015, 07:48:53 PM
I would say 1985 through 1990

Reamer has sewing eye
Scissor does not have groove
file does not have "V" pattern near end
Back fine screw driver has narrow shank
attachment is on liner not spring
and no hook
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #8 on: October 07, 2015, 07:49:49 PM
Post 1990. Keyring is on the opener.
http://victorinox.metodi.me/91mmtools.php

Or am I looking at the pic wrong?
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #9 on: October 07, 2015, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: detron on October 07, 2015, 07:48:53 PM
I would say 1985 through 1990

Reamer has sewing eye
Scissor does not have groove
file does not have "V" pattern near end
Back fine screw driver has narrow shank
attachment is on liner not spring
and no hook

 :facepalm: i missed the reamer eye  :salute:
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #10 on: October 07, 2015, 07:53:05 PM
Quote from: Zed on October 07, 2015, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: detron on October 07, 2015, 07:48:53 PM
I would say 1985 through 1990

Reamer has sewing eye
Scissor does not have groove
file does not have "V" pattern near end
Back fine screw driver has narrow shank
attachment is on liner not spring
and no hook

 :facepalm: i missed the reamer eye  :salute:

Easy to miss the boulders when searching for pebbles. 
I have made massive mistakes myself, so now I have a spreadsheet that I make selections one by one, and it narrows the range for me.
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #11 on: October 07, 2015, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: gene stoner on October 07, 2015, 07:49:49 PM
Post 1990. Keyring is on the opener.
http://victorinox.metodi.me/91mmtools.php

keyring is on the blade layer.  might have to click picture to see it big enough
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #12 on: October 07, 2015, 07:56:33 PM
Quote from: detron on October 07, 2015, 07:53:05 PM
Quote from: Zed on October 07, 2015, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: detron on October 07, 2015, 07:48:53 PM
I would say 1985 through 1990

Reamer has sewing eye
Scissor does not have groove
file does not have "V" pattern near end
Back fine screw driver has narrow shank
attachment is on liner not spring
and no hook

 :facepalm: i missed the reamer eye  :salute:

Easy to miss the boulders when searching for pebbles. 
I have made massive mistakes myself, so now I have a spreadsheet that I make selections one by one, and it narrows the range for me.

the spread sheet is a great idea  :salute: im still learning  :tu:
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #13 on: October 07, 2015, 07:57:56 PM
Quote from: detron on October 07, 2015, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: gene stoner on October 07, 2015, 07:49:49 PM
Post 1990. Keyring is on the opener.
http://victorinox.metodi.me/91mmtools.php

keyring is on the blade layer.  might have to click picture to see it big enoug



Yep you are correct. 85-90.
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #14 on: October 07, 2015, 07:58:06 PM
The tang stamp was discontinued in 85 from what I remember. At that point it went to a big "V". That was my first thought. So in my mind this guy must be made in late 85 or possibly early 86 as it seems to incorporate all the 1985 tool changes but also has the older tang.

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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #15 on: October 07, 2015, 08:01:04 PM
Quote from: VoetSak on October 07, 2015, 07:58:06 PM
The tang stamp was discontinued in 85 from what I remember. At that point it went to a big "V". That was my first thought. So in my mind this guy must be made in late 85 or possibly early 86 as it seems to incorporate all the 1985 tool changes but also has the older tang.

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great catch.  I did not notice that

that sure does bring it down to 1985-1986.  about as nailed down as you can get.
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #16 on: October 07, 2015, 08:01:31 PM
Quote from: VoetSak on October 07, 2015, 07:42:43 PM
Screw scissors no groove.

Do you mean it is rivet?  I kinda compare this to my more modern SAK, I am guess it maybe 1992-2000, because of no rivets and thicker handle on scissors.
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #17 on: October 07, 2015, 08:09:17 PM
Here are the scissors
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #18 on: October 07, 2015, 08:15:38 PM
Thanks!  So it should be before 92.  And with the stamp looks like 1952-1986(four lines, C8 on Ulli stamp map), and incorporated many 85 changes...my vote goes to 85-86 too.  :cheers:
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #19 on: October 07, 2015, 11:35:07 PM
Ah, dating problems again. <3
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #20 on: October 08, 2015, 06:34:17 PM
I'd date this as 1986.

The major dating elements here are:
- small "v", ends late 1986 (not 1985 as mentioned earlier)
- sewing eye in reamer, introduced late 1985
- new style fine screwdriver, introduced 1986
- No chisel on saw layer which started with intro of SwissChamp in 1986
- Half stop on the caplifter, introduced 1985

Lots of other things mentioned also help (keyring attachment, scissors with screw) but these are the main elements.


Quote from: comis on October 07, 2015, 08:01:31 PM
Quote from: VoetSak on October 07, 2015, 07:42:43 PM
Screw scissors no groove.
Do you mean it is rivet?  I kinda compare this to my more modern SAK, I am guess it maybe 1992-2000, because of no rivets and thicker handle on scissors.

I think he means the groove for the spring to ride in. There is a lesser known variation of the scissors that was made from about 1990-1992 where the two parts of the scissors were joined by a screw (like the older scissors from 1978-1990), but there is a small groove in the handle of the scissors for the spring to ride in as they open and close. In 1992 the new riveted scissors are introduced and the groove is used on those as well, and is still there.

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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #21 on: October 09, 2015, 04:25:49 PM
Thanks Jazz.

And yes I didn't notice that I was being unclear earlier. I mean screw pivot and no spring groove.

I have a pair of the scissors you describe and so I tend to think of scissors as:
Screw no groove
Screw groove
Silver rivet
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #22 on: October 15, 2015, 11:29:28 PM
How about this one?


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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #23 on: October 16, 2015, 01:44:46 AM
Is that an 84mm?
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #24 on: October 16, 2015, 01:46:45 AM
Yup

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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #25 on: October 16, 2015, 01:49:03 AM
Quote from: GigaHz on October 16, 2015, 01:46:45 AM
Yup

Very cool!  I just bought one today...it doesn't have a bail though!  Glad to find out what mine was!!  :salute:

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« Last Edit: October 16, 2015, 01:56:47 AM by SAK Guy »
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #26 on: October 16, 2015, 01:50:34 AM
Quote from: GigaHz on October 15, 2015, 11:29:28 PM
How about this one?



I would say 1952 - 1968  But that is just based on the tools alone, and not as precise as jazzbass could give.
think of this as the "Idiot Detron" guess.
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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #27 on: October 16, 2015, 01:52:04 AM
Quote from: SAK Guy on October 16, 2015, 01:49:03 AM
Quote from: GigaHz on October 16, 2015, 01:46:45 AM
Yup

Very cool!  I just bought one...it doesn't have a bail though!  Glad to find out what mine was!!  :salute:

Got any pictures?

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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #28 on: October 16, 2015, 01:59:05 AM
Quote from: GigaHz on October 16, 2015, 01:52:04 AM
Quote from: SAK Guy on October 16, 2015, 01:49:03 AM
Quote from: GigaHz on October 16, 2015, 01:46:45 AM
Yup

Very cool!  I just bought one...it doesn't have a bail though!  Glad to find out what mine was!!  :salute:

Got any pictures?

I attached one...if you can't see it, I'll upload it to photobucket.

Here ya go:
« Last Edit: October 16, 2015, 02:03:02 AM by SAK Guy »
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Quo Fata Ferunt
"It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues." - Ten Bears
Merit Badges Start a new thread demonstrating paracord knot tying Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Start a new thread showing photos of your outdoor cooking Must start new thread with photos of multitools (Magazine/Catalogue type photos) Must put something in order and provide link to the post. Must buy something on EDCSource Start a new thread and post a picture of fire making kit or fire with a multitool Start a new thread with a photo of custom or non standard SAK scales in your collection Participate in a challenge by carrying  a GEC knife and post a photo of it  for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of at least 8 different 130mm models in your collection Must start a thread with a photo of your birth year SAK Start a new thread with photos of at least 12 different 111mm models in your collection Start a new thread with photos of your Mora knives in use Start a new thread with photos of your titanium gear with a multitool or sak Start a new thread and post a photo of a traditional folder for thirty (30) consecutive days. Post your pocket dump photos then challenge two more members who must post their pocket dump photos within 24hrs for you to get the badge. Start a thread with photos of at least twelve different colored ALOX models in your collection Start a new thread with photos of your astronomy gear with a multitool

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Re: Master Craftsman - Dating help
Reply #29 on: October 16, 2015, 02:02:09 AM
I don't see anything. I think this knife deserves a SAKWIKI page. I think there is enough of them out there.

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