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Ashley · **Reply #1080 on:** April 01, 2011, 01:59:15 AM

Quote from: NutSAK on March 31, 2011, 11:55:05 PM

Thanks man. Honestly, I'm not likely to keep the orange trapper. The color of the bone is not really my taste, and I don't really like the profile of the clip blade. IMO, they didn't leave the blade full enough, it's not very deep from spine to edge at any point along the blade. I've never been a big fan of trappers because I don't think I'd use the long spey much. The wharncliffe is very nice, just not nice enough to change my mind about that particular trapper. Maybe I'll try a full-size wharnie trapper next time.

What can I say, I'm more of a jack or whittler kinda guy. The single-blade trapper is in person though. Nearly as as the swayback.

Well Tuesday is my birthday and I love orange. LOL J/K

NutSAK · **Reply #1081 on:** April 01, 2011, 04:09:50 AM

I know how much you like orange Ash.

Especially shiny orange Cases.

Ashley · **Reply #1082 on:** April 01, 2011, 04:36:57 AM

Quote from: NutSAK on April 01, 2011, 04:09:50 AM

I know how much you like orange Ash. Especially shiny orange Cases.

Yep I sure do.

2xTap · **Reply #1083 on:** April 01, 2011, 11:55:38 PM

Quote from: NutSAK on March 31, 2011, 11:55:05 PM

Thanks man. Honestly, I'm not likely to keep the orange trapper. The color of the bone is not really my taste, and I don't really like the profile of the clip blade. IMO, they didn't leave the blade full enough, it's not very deep from spine to edge at any point along the blade. I've never been a big fan of trappers because I don't think I'd use the long spey much. The wharncliffe is very nice, just not nice enough to change my mind about that particular trapper. Maybe I'll try a full-size wharnie trapper next time.

What can I say, I'm more of a jack or whittler kinda guy. The single-blade trapper is in person though. Nearly as as the swayback.

I hear ya bud......the long Clip on these smaller Trappers is often quite narrow. It's kind of the nature of these longer California and Turkish Clip styles.

Have you looked at Great Eastern? They have done some superb stuff with Wharnie mainblades, and most of it in Carbon Steel.........

Just some examples from them!

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NutSAK · **Reply #1084 on:** April 02, 2011, 04:09:02 PM

Oh yeah. Don't think I don't have my eye on GEC.

Since I consider all of the slippies I buy users though, they're a bit out of my price range right now. It's tough to justify those prices when you can get some really nice knives from other US companies such as Case and, especially, Queen.

NutSAK · **Reply #1085 on:** April 02, 2011, 06:08:06 PM

2xTap · **Reply #1086 on:** April 02, 2011, 06:54:14 PM

NutSAK,

I know what you mean as the GEC's are not inexpensive. But there is that "something" about them that sets them apart from most other manufacturers. An old world quality that I've not seen from many made today, about the closest to it would the Schatt & Morgans and Robesons from Queen.

Even the smell of GEC's is different.....yes, the smell! Hard to explain. You'll know what I mean when you get one. I own somehwhere around 15 or so GEC's and all are top tier in F&F. And I am talking tight and stout. The small things you can come across with Case and Queen knives on occassion, faint gaps, uneven edges, light backsprings, unevenly finished pin heads, etc. you will not find on a GEC. The worst thing I can say about GEC's is that their edges barely come user sharp. They don't put razor edges on their knives. But you can't beat the level of F&F......while you can get a similar level of F&F on some Case and Queen pieces, GEC takes it a step further.

But then GEC doesn't build in the same numbers as Case and Queen. Often their runs can be counted in the double digits. So with them you are getting what you pay for.

I know I sound like I am some kind of spokesman for them but I have to say as much as I love my Case knives and all those I own built by Queen (my favorite all time pattern and my mainstay EDC is from Case, and my most prized collection are my Robesons from Queen) Great Eastern builds, on the whole, a better knife.

Anyway, them pics you took of your newest Case pieces are excellent. You really have a eye for photography. And I have to say I really like that Orange Mini-Trapper. That thing looks sweet as hell. I do prefer the larger Trapper patterns but that one just looks so good. Great stuff, thanks for sharing the eye-candy.

Now, comparatively speaking, how's the build between the three of them?

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2xTap · **Reply #1087 on:** April 02, 2011, 09:22:54 PM

Here's a couple more I just got myself.........

Schatt & Morgan Series-7 English Jack in Deep Blue Jigged Bone:

Schatt & Morgan Series-13 Equal End Split-Back Whittler in Golden Age Jigged Bone:

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2xTap · **Reply #1088 on:** April 02, 2011, 09:59:27 PM

I also recently acquired the long lost cousins to the two Red Smooth Bone Robeson Demonstrators I already have...........

Robeson Shuredge Large Barlow "Demonstrator" in Red Jigged Bone:

Robeson Shuredge Large Coke Bottle "Demonstrator" in Red Jigged Bone:

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Ashley · **Reply #1089 on:** April 03, 2011, 04:38:02 AM

My friend on BF gifted me this and I wanted to show it off. The music is also by a friend of mine on BF

NutSAK · **Reply #1090 on:** April 03, 2011, 06:25:08 AM

That easy open jack has a lovely patina Ash!

You have some great friends. The sheepsfoot is just begging to be used hard, and I hope you oblige.

Here's a a couple of quick shots of a '73 Copperhead (#6249) that I just received today. She's a dandy. I'll comment more about this and the wharnies when I get some time tomorrow.

NutSAK · **Reply #1091 on:** April 05, 2011, 11:05:58 PM

Quote from: 2xTap on April 02, 2011, 06:54:14 PM

NutSAK,

I know what you mean as the GEC's are not inexpensive. But there is that "something" about them that sets them apart from most other manufacturers. An old world quality that I've not seen from many made today, about the closest to it would the Schatt & Morgans and Robesons from Queen.

Even the smell of GEC's is different.....yes, the smell! Hard to explain. You'll know what I mean when you get one. I own somehwhere around 15 or so GEC's and all are top tier in F&F. And I am talking tight and stout. The small things you can come across with Case and Queen knives on occassion, faint gaps, uneven edges, light backsprings, unevenly finished pin heads, etc. you will not find on a GEC. The worst thing I can say about GEC's is that their edges barely come user sharp. They don't put razor edges on their knives. But you can't beat the level of F&F......while you can get a similar level of F&F on some Case and Queen pieces, GEC takes it a step further.

But then GEC doesn't build in the same numbers as Case and Queen. Often their runs can be counted in the double digits. So with them you are getting what you pay for.

OK OK OK!! I bought a GEC today. Should I just send the commission check directly to you, and save postage from Titusville?

Quote from: 2xTap on April 02, 2011, 06:54:14 PM

Anyway, them pics you took of your newest Case pieces are excellent. You really have a eye for photography. And I have to say I really like that Orange Mini-Trapper. That thing looks sweet as hell. I do prefer the larger Trapper patterns but that one just looks so good. Great stuff, thanks for sharing the eye-candy.

Aw, thanks man.

Honestly, I don't try that hard at the photos, I just try to get good lighting and reduce glare, and maybe adjust the aperture a bit for some depth effect. I guess after taking photos of SAKs and flashlights for so many years, it has sort of become second nature. What I would really like to start doing though is setting up some backgrounds with some props and nice materials and such, but I'm usually in too big of a hurry to do so.

Quote from: 2xTap on April 02, 2011, 06:54:14 PM

Now, comparatively speaking, how's the build between the three of them?

The Swayback is perfect. There isn't really a single thing I can fault on that knife at all--good snap (for a Case), no gaps in the backsprings, flush fitting of scales, great jigging, etc. etc. I had read that Tony Bose worked directly with Case to get this one right, and I believe it. That Swayback is the only Case I own that has the springs fitting flush with the liners in all blade positions. The tangs mate with the ends of the springs very well and aren't overly polished and rounded like most are.

The single blade Wharncliffe Mini Trapper is a close second. The best snap of the three, and beautifully finished bone. There is a bit of a spring gap at the blade end, but no lateral play in the blade at all, so it's just aesthetic, IMO. The blade has the typical polished, rounded tang where it mates with the backspring.

The two blade Wharncliffe Mini Trapper would be third, but is still quite acceptable at this price level. Same spring gap, but with slight lateral play in both blades. The pile side cover (scale) isn't polished as well as the mark side, so the bone looks a little "drier", if you know what I mean. The knife was clogged with polishing compound when I got it, in the joints and in the pores of the bone. It took a scrub bath immediately after I received it, and now all is well.

The odd bit is in the bevels of the blades. The clip blade on the orange trapper and the Wharncliffe on the single blade are slightly hollow ground, whereas the Wharncliffe on the orange trapper is flat. I don't think this is a rare occurrence though, as I've seen the same thing with the Case knives I have from the 70's.

NutSAK · **Reply #1092 on:** April 06, 2011, 05:55:22 PM

Quote from: 2xTap on April 02, 2011, 09:22:54 PM

Schatt & Morgan Series-13 Equal End Split-Back Whittler in Golden Age Jigged Bone:
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Zed · **Reply #1093 on:** April 07, 2011, 09:29:16 AM

some amazing stuff here guys

a very knid guy sent me these 2 last week and i love them, ive been edc'ing the soduster jnr as a perfect uk pocket knife

casexx sodbuster jnr

ulster knife co scout with rogers boned scales

im EDC'ing this today in a leather pouch with a chain lanyard as dont wont to lose this one

NutSAK · **Reply #1094 on:** April 07, 2011, 01:30:46 PM

Nice ones Zed. That bone is easy on the eyes and the sodbuster will never let you down!

Zed · **Reply #1095 on:** April 07, 2011, 01:36:09 PM

Quote from: NutSAK on April 07, 2011, 01:30:46 PM

Nice ones Zed. That bone is easy on the eyes and the sodbuster will never let you down!

cheers terry,there both great pocket knives the sodie is a really good edc and the scout is so solid you feel like you could bang a nail in with it (not that i would lol) im very happy with them both

my edc for today

NutSAK · **Reply #1096 on:** April 07, 2011, 01:48:15 PM

It's nice to have a good looking knife to carry around, and that's what has me going on traditional slipjoints. Even if you don't use it on a particular day, you can pull it out of your pocket to admire and relax awhile. Your scout definitely fits that duty.

It looks like you have a 2009 model Case there.

Zed · **Reply #1097 on:** April 07, 2011, 03:56:36 PM

Cheers terry, i would of loved to have fondled it down the park today but i think i would of worried the mums

not sure of year of case you know way more than me terry , i got some more info on the ulster toady

What you have there is a WW II era Engineers pocket knife.

In 1944 they started using the safety can opener, which yours has.

So your knife was made from 1944 on till some time after WWII when all the extra parts were used up.

NutSAK · **Reply #1098 on:** April 09, 2011, 08:00:07 PM

Bullwinkle arrived yesterday. This is my first GEC, and I'm smitten. I doubt there's a finer production knife available.

2xTap · **Reply #1099 on:** April 10, 2011, 06:51:55 AM

NutSAK,

Ohhhhhh yeah.......very nice!

I was wondering which you'd get. Nice choice in the NF Mink Moose. Some gorgeous Stag on there too. I ain't got any of the #66 patterns yet, how's the backsprings on these? Also, how's the edges on that one? I heard recently that GEC has improved the factory edges on their newer releases and that they come fairly sharp now.

And yes, you can send that Commission Check straight to me. That would be good!

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Ashley · **Reply #1100 on:** April 10, 2011, 08:51:29 AM

That is a fine looking jewel NutSak.

Zed · **Reply #1101 on:** April 10, 2011, 10:02:08 AM

That gec is lovely tony, i love the look of long pulls

NutSAK · **Reply #1102 on:** April 10, 2011, 12:08:18 PM

Evidently the #66 has lighter springs than the larger patterns. Everyone mentions those "bear trap" springs that GECs have, but these aren't that strong. The snap is good, but honestly I'm a little bit disappointed that it doesn't "clack" shut. It wouldn't keep me from buying another though, and that new Calf Roper looks like a perfect EDC.

The edges were good out of the tube, but there was a burr on both blades. A few quick swipes with a fine stone had her shavin'. It had much better factory edges than any Queen I've handled.

What's the deal 2xTap? I think this is the first knife I've posted that you didn't ask about F&F. I guess you figured that there was no point in asking, and you would be right about that.

My oh my do they build these right! I have a serious problem now--I don't know which one to get next! It'll probably be a #73, maybe even a stainless one with an acorn shield.

2xTap · **Reply #1103 on:** April 10, 2011, 05:54:18 PM

NutSAK,

Well, GEC does make strong springs. Most of the larger patterns are stout, and noticably so. But it is really only the #23 and #73 patterns that usually come with the nail-breaker level of springs. This is due in part because of the strongs springs added with blades that have squared up tangs.....this combo can make it feel like you are opening a bear trap. I was just curious how their springs are on this new pattern.

Sounds as though they have improved the edges somewhat if it took just a few swipes to get it shaving sharp, this is good.

Yeah, I wasn't even going to bother to ask how the F&F was. I already know. Since 2006 when the first GEC's were released I can count on one hand the number of times I've heard mentioned on any forum anyone that had a complaint about a GEC's fit and finish (two times that I can recall!). A lemon from GEC is a rare bird indeed. Matter of fact, considering how well put together their knives are, and how few are actually made in each run......I wouldn't be surprised if a GEC that leaves their factory with a F&F issue would become a hot collectable!!!!

Picking your next GEC is always a problem. Aside from a few times, I myself have that problem nearly everytime I look for my next.

As to steels, this is just a FYI.........the Northfield and Tidioute brands are always done in 1095 carbon steel. The GEC brand always comes with a Acorn shield and the main steel in this line is 440-C stainless but not all GEC brand come in this stainless. There was some early stuff done in 420HC and currently their is a line of GEC fixed blades with Acorn shields that resemble their Pioneer and Scout patterns and even have #23 and #73 pattern numbers......but these are done in 1095! Don't ask me why they did this, no one seems to know. But they are in fact GEC brand in carbon steel.

Great Eastern has also made alot of their pattern under other names on contract. Some of these are Bradford Cutlery, Good Old Days Cutlery, Cripple Creek, Tuna Valley, Bulldog USA, Schrade Cutlery, Ulster, and a few others. And all of these have come in a mix of steels.

Good luck on your next choice. I myself have been eyeing quite a few and have been meaning to get some every pay day, but I keep getting other "deals" thrown my way which has prevented me from expanding my GEC collection......(two more Robesons on their way to me as I type this, both in Stag!)

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Zed · **Reply #1104 on:** April 10, 2011, 06:16:41 PM

Quote from: 2xTap on April 10, 2011, 06:51:55 AM

NutSAK,

Ohhhhhh yeah.......very nice! I was wondering which you'd get. Nice choice in the NF Mink Moose. Some gorgeous Stag on there too. I ain't got any of the #66 patterns yet, how's the backsprings on these? Also, how's the edges on that one? I heard recently that GEC has improved the factory edges on their newer releases and that they come fairly sharp now.

And yes, you can send that Commission Check straight to me. That would be good!

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hi terry, did it come with the pouch as really like that

NutSAK · **Reply #1105 on:** April 10, 2011, 06:37:34 PM

Paul, the pocket slip came from knivesshipfree.com. It is very well made, and I highly recommend it. Seems like everyone who tries one recommends it.

Zed · **Reply #1106 on:** April 10, 2011, 06:48:36 PM

Quote from: NutSAK on April 10, 2011, 06:37:34 PM

Paul, the pocket slip came from knivesshipfree.com. It is very well made, and I highly recommend it. Seems like everyone who tries one recommends it.

cheers terry ill go and check them out,

2xTap · **Reply #1107 on:** April 10, 2011, 10:23:57 PM

Quote from: Zed on April 10, 2011, 06:48:36 PM

Quote from: NutSAK on April 10, 2011, 06:37:34 PM
Paul, the pocket slip came from knivesshipfree.com. It is very well made, and I highly recommend it. Seems like everyone who tries one recommends it.

cheers terry ill go and check them out,

I highly recommend them as well. I have a couple of them.........

.......and since getting these my Gunboat isn't carried any other way. They are very high quality, made by Sharpshooter Sheath Systems (same maker of all the fine leather for Bark River Knives). Top notch pocket sheaths if there ever was any.

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Zed · **Reply #1108 on:** April 10, 2011, 10:47:06 PM

Quote from: 2xTap on April 10, 2011, 10:23:57 PM

Quote from: Zed on April 10, 2011, 06:48:36 PM
Quote from: NutSAK on April 10, 2011, 06:37:34 PM
Paul, the pocket slip came from knivesshipfree.com. It is very well made, and I highly recommend it. Seems like everyone who tries one recommends it.

cheers terry ill go and check them out,

I highly recommend them as well. I have a couple of them.........

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.......and since getting these my Gunboat isn't carried any other way. They are very high quality, made by Sharpshooter Sheath Systems (same maker of all the fine leather for Bark River Knives). Top notch pocket sheaths if there ever was any.

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they look more expenive than they are, i will get one when i can

nuphoria · **Reply #1109 on:** April 11, 2011, 04:33:47 PM

I have a KSF slip case too and it's very handy. Started off fairly rigid but has got nice and soft with use now.

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