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High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse

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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #60 on: December 23, 2015, 10:10:24 AM
MP600, bike brake cable stripped - not good.



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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #61 on: December 23, 2015, 10:10:58 AM
Huh, well then...


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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #62 on: December 23, 2015, 10:11:17 AM
One last test to go.   :ahhh



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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #63 on: December 23, 2015, 10:11:36 AM
SwissTool, HT wire, two cuts, hard to do and tough on the hand:
Cutters - minor damage, just catching, serviceable.
HW notch - good



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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #64 on: December 23, 2015, 10:12:51 AM
MP600, HT wire, HW notch - good, hard to do, two hands needed.



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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #65 on: December 23, 2015, 10:13:14 AM
I certainly wasn't expecting these to still be in one piece.



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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #66 on: December 23, 2015, 10:13:35 AM
Let me try that again.



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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #67 on: December 23, 2015, 10:13:57 AM
Two cuts with the HW notch and no broken carbide cutters.



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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #68 on: December 23, 2015, 10:14:29 AM
I decided to leave it at that.
Trying it on the regular cutters would be even harder on the hands.
And I was no longer willing to waste my last set of the cutters after seeing what they could do.


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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #69 on: December 23, 2015, 10:14:47 AM
There was one fail though, the mini bolt cutters didn't open wide enough to cut the power cord.    :facepalm:



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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #70 on: December 23, 2015, 10:23:23 AM
Have you been using the stranded wire cutter on the Surge, or just the main jaws?



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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #71 on: December 23, 2015, 10:32:22 AM
Have you been using the stranded wire cutter on the Surge, or just the main jaws?

For these tests I only used the replaceable cutters.

For every day stuff I do use the stranded wire cutters.

I would like to see them on the smaller Wave and Charge.


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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #72 on: December 23, 2015, 10:34:18 AM
 :salute:

Did you also test the stripped bike brake cable with the Surge and the Blacktip?
I had problems with the Surge (but not with the Rebar head in a Charge) and for me, the Spirit cut the brake cable very well (Quick Test: MTs vs. Bike Break Cable).
It wouldn't be the internet without people complaining.


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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #73 on: December 23, 2015, 10:36:09 AM
:salute:

Did you also test the stripped bike brake cable with the Surge and the Blacktip?
I had problems with the Surge (but not with the Rebar head in a Charge) and for me, the Spirit cut the brake cable very well (Quick Test: MTs vs. Bike Break Cable).

Yes. No problems with either tool. Just didn't bother taking pics of everything.
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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #74 on: December 23, 2015, 10:44:55 AM
:salute:

Did you also test the stripped bike brake cable with the Surge and the Blacktip?
I had problems with the Surge (but not with the Rebar head in a Charge) and for me, the Spirit cut the brake cable very well (Quick Test: MTs vs. Bike Break Cable).

Yes. No problems with either tool. Just didn't bother taking pics of everything.
Am I correct assuming you used the wire-cutters on the Surge?
It wouldn't be the internet without people complaining.


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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #75 on: December 23, 2015, 10:49:02 AM
:salute:

Did you also test the stripped bike brake cable with the Surge and the Blacktip?
I had problems with the Surge (but not with the Rebar head in a Charge) and for me, the Spirit cut the brake cable very well (Quick Test: MTs vs. Bike Break Cable).

Yes. No problems with either tool. Just didn't bother taking pics of everything.
Am I correct assuming you used the wire-cutters on the Surge?

I tried both the hard wire notch and the cutters.


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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #76 on: December 23, 2015, 12:13:15 PM
Good info there Z, thanks!  :)


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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #77 on: December 23, 2015, 12:20:31 PM


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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #78 on: December 23, 2015, 12:27:52 PM
Great bit of testing there buddy!!! :tu:


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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #79 on: December 23, 2015, 12:37:29 PM
Great bit of testing there buddy!!! :tu:


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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #80 on: December 23, 2015, 03:28:41 PM
This thread illustrates why a SAK plus a dedicated pair of inexpensive pocket pliers is the way to go.

I am slowly reaching the same conclusion, especially considering the total loadout won't be any heavier.


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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #81 on: December 23, 2015, 04:26:23 PM
Great test !


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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #82 on: December 23, 2015, 04:27:47 PM
A pair of dedicated pliers are looking more and more good to me.  :whistle:
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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #83 on: December 23, 2015, 07:27:30 PM
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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #86 on: December 23, 2015, 08:29:46 PM
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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #88 on: December 23, 2015, 09:05:48 PM
Looks like a Batman villain.

Are they using orange jumpsuits in Arkham?


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Re: High Tensile Wire Cutting Test, Warning: Minor Tool Abuse
Reply #89 on: December 23, 2015, 10:42:25 PM
I recently sold my backup Gerber so I wasn't brave enough to try these. Yet. I might feel up to it later.

Be prepared that you may need to replace the replaceable Gerber cutters.  IIRC they are very hard and very brittle, so they do well on cutting large quantities of softer wire (which is what they were designed for), but tend to break on hard wire.

If I had to use an MT to cut large(ish) diameter hard wire I'd consider filing a notch first to reduce the chance of smurfing up the cutters.  Or even just file a couple of notches and then bend the wire back and forth until it breaks at the weak point you have created.  There is often "more than one way to skin a cat" if you use your imagination and think laterally.

That is why I didn't want to try them.
However IMO they aren't any good at cutting soft wire either.
So I might as well kill them.

My original idea was to test multiple cutters going from easy to hard stuff and noting the outcome.
Once I sold the backup I thought I would flag the test.
Now it is just a time thing, if I can find some I'll probably do it.

I wonder how hard it is to file HT fencing wire?

Practically impossible.   I learned this the hard way when trying to free a sheep stuck in the fence in rain and mud.  The wire cutters on my first generation LM Super Tool wouldn't go through the 50 year old fencing wire we have on the farm since I couldn't get enough leverage, so I tried the teeth along the bottom edge of the file.  It barely scratched it.  While I went to get the bolt cutters to cut the wire, my grandparents were able to free the sheep without tools, so at least the story had a happy ending.


 

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