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Need help sharpening Cold Steel Micro-serrations

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Need help sharpening Cold Steel Micro-serrations
on: February 27, 2016, 12:23:19 PM
Hi folks
A while ago i bought an old Cold Steel Land&Sea Rescue folder which is a fully serrated sheepsfoot. It has the infamous Cold Steel Microserrations. I would like to sharpen it using one of the system i own, that is Sharpmaker and Lansky (stones for serrated). Any tips? Do and don'ts?
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Re: Need help sharpening Cold Steel Micro-serrations
Reply #1 on: February 27, 2016, 05:06:15 PM
I too have the sharpmaker, but looking at the 'micro' serration, I probably wouldn't use the sharpmaker in its usual manner.  Maybe for a very light touchup, but using coarser stone probably will grinding flat the micro serration part.



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Re: Need help sharpening Cold Steel Micro-serrations
Reply #2 on: February 27, 2016, 05:44:02 PM
Thank you for reply, comis. No way i am using the coarse rod for serrated knives... Even for regular serration they do not reccomend it in the video or manual... Only the ceramic rods are employed for serrated blades...

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Re: Need help sharpening Cold Steel Micro-serrations
Reply #3 on: February 27, 2016, 06:33:30 PM
Those micro serrations are going to require a "touch" without the right size round ceramic rod. T he edge of the ceramic triangle stones may be up to the task but I don't have a CS with micro serrations to be knowledgeable to really know. 

With any sharpening match the gullet angle is goal one.  Its those points that become rounded over the life of sharpening when the tool used for sharpening is not ideal.  I'd say be light handed and in my experience with my fully serrated delica 4 I didn't go as far as creating a burr.  I try to maintain the edge over time rather than have to "sharpen".   

If you are needing a bit more work then as always once you feel the burr on the backside stop and move on.  Time consuming but as you know serrations can be wicked when at their optimum sharpness. 

Lastly I would strop both sides whether you create a burr or not. 

Just my 2c worth. 
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Re: Need help sharpening Cold Steel Micro-serrations
Reply #4 on: February 27, 2016, 08:23:35 PM
Those micro serrations are going to require a "touch" without the right size round ceramic rod. T he edge of the ceramic triangle stones may be up to the task but I don't have a CS with micro serrations to be knowledgeable to really know. 

With any sharpening match the gullet angle is goal one.  Its those points that become rounded over the life of sharpening when the tool used for sharpening is not ideal.  I'd say be light handed and in my experience with my fully serrated delica 4 I didn't go as far as creating a burr.  I try to maintain the edge over time rather than have to "sharpen".   

If you are needing a bit more work then as always once you feel the burr on the backside stop and move on.  Time consuming but as you know serrations can be wicked when at their optimum sharpness. 

Lastly I would strop both sides whether you create a burr or not. 

Just my 2c worth.
Thank you very much mate  :salute:
Antonio


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Re: Need help sharpening Cold Steel Micro-serrations
Reply #5 on: February 27, 2016, 09:05:08 PM
Lansky sells a Cold Steel serration sharpener for around $8 that works like a charm and fits the serrated pattern of the brand's knives perfectly.





I used the Sharpmaker and similar methods to try and sharpen them but always round the very tips of the finer teeth off. that was until I tried the Lansky specific sharpener. Everything else didn't work perfectly, just meh.



Now it's really easy to get the serrated folders I have from Cold Steel in a couple minutes.



Give it a try!

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Re: Need help sharpening Cold Steel Micro-serrations
Reply #7 on: February 27, 2016, 09:29:56 PM
You have to give credit to Cold Steel for producing a device that will sharpen their proprietary serrations.
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Re: Need help sharpening Cold Steel Micro-serrations
Reply #8 on: February 27, 2016, 10:12:05 PM
You have to give credit to Cold Steel for producing a device that will sharpen their proprietary serrations.

Props to them for sure  :tu:

@ The Peacent  wonderful selection of CS knives.  I especially like the Kukri looking one. 
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Re: Need help sharpening Cold Steel Micro-serrations
Reply #9 on: February 28, 2016, 11:35:04 AM
You have to give credit to Cold Steel for producing a device that will sharpen their proprietary serrations.

Props to them for sure  :tu:

@ The Peacent  wonderful selection of CS knives.  I especially like the Kukri looking one.

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Re: Need help sharpening Cold Steel Micro-serrations
Reply #10 on: February 28, 2016, 02:59:33 PM
I agree with Aloha  :salute:


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Re: Need help sharpening Cold Steel Micro-serrations
Reply #11 on: February 28, 2016, 07:38:19 PM
But what to do in a zombie apocalypse?

If you don't have the proper equipment at hand, you can try the following:
Take a shoelace/piece of sturdy string and cover it with diamond or polishing paste.
Use this makeshift thingy like a strop, give it a high tension (I usually knot one end to my toe and hold the other end in my left hand, making it go "twang") and polish every single serration from the side they originally ground from.

Heaps of work, but nice outcome.

Haven't tried that on micro serrations, but works woll on my swisstool spirit and an old bread knife with irregular serrations. Maybe you'll have to use dental floss for those micro serrations :D

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Re: Need help sharpening Cold Steel Micro-serrations
Reply #12 on: February 29, 2016, 05:29:20 PM
Lansky sells a Cold Steel serration sharpener for around $8 that works like a charm and fits the serrated pattern of the brand's knives perfectly.

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I used the Sharpmaker and similar methods to try and sharpen them but always round the very tips of the finer teeth off. that was until I tried the Lansky specific sharpener. Everything else didn't work perfectly, just meh.

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Now it's really easy to get the serrated folders I have from Cold Steel in a couple minutes.

(Image removed from quote.)

Give it a try!

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Thank you very much!
Antonio


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Re: Need help sharpening Cold Steel Micro-serrations
Reply #13 on: February 29, 2016, 05:30:03 PM
But what to do in a zombie apocalypse?

If you don't have the proper equipment at hand, you can try the following:
Take a shoelace/piece of sturdy string and cover it with diamond or polishing paste.
Use this makeshift thingy like a strop, give it a high tension (I usually knot one end to my toe and hold the other end in my left hand, making it go "twang") and polish every single serration from the side they originally ground from.

Heaps of work, but nice outcome.

Haven't tried that on micro serrations, but works woll on my swisstool spirit and an old bread knife with irregular serrations. Maybe you'll have to use dental floss for those micro serrations :D

Tomcat
Great method and tips! Amazing! Thank you very much for sharing! :salute:
Antonio


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Re: Need help sharpening Cold Steel Micro-serrations
Reply #14 on: February 29, 2016, 05:32:46 PM
That would be the ticket  :tu:
http://www.amazon.com/Lansky-Steel-Knife-Sharpener-Colors/dp/B001DZFBHS

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I found a couple of those for sale on ebay... I ask, of you can help again: is there any difference between different colors? I have found some red ones and it says medium grit, but i also have found grey ones for sale and it is not specified.. ...?! :think:
Antonio


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Re: Need help sharpening Cold Steel Micro-serrations
Reply #15 on: February 29, 2016, 05:59:16 PM
That would be the ticket  :tu:
http://www.amazon.com/Lansky-Steel-Knife-Sharpener-Colors/dp/B001DZFBHS

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I found a couple of those for sale on ebay... I ask, of you can help again: is there any difference between different colors? I have found some red ones and it says medium grit, but i also have found grey ones for sale and it is not specified.. ...?! :think:

It appears the one you linked is the one speciifcally for the cold steel micro serrations while the others are rods with different grits or multiple grits.   
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Re: Need help sharpening Cold Steel Micro-serrations
Reply #16 on: February 29, 2016, 06:06:41 PM
That would be the ticket  :tu:
http://www.amazon.com/Lansky-Steel-Knife-Sharpener-Colors/dp/B001DZFBHS

(Image removed from quote.)
I found a couple of those for sale on ebay... I ask, of you can help again: is there any difference between different colors? I have found some red ones and it says medium grit, but i also have found grey ones for sale and it is not specified.. ...?! :think:

Looks like the grey one is what you want 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lansky-80999074053-Rod-Steel-Cold-Steel-Serrated-Blade-Knife-Sharpener-4-1-8-/262312485422?hash=item3d130ae22e:g:opAAAOSwG-1WwCOn


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Re: Need help sharpening Cold Steel Micro-serrations
Reply #17 on: March 01, 2016, 02:01:02 PM
Thnaks all !!!  :salute:
Antonio


 

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