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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #30 on: April 12, 2016, 04:10:07 PM
I spoke with my contact at Ontario (okay, she's just a customer service chick).  FWIW, she said that the Rat 1 D2 with plastic scales will be regular production model. 
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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #31 on: April 12, 2016, 05:15:46 PM
Quote from: powernoodle on April 12, 2016, 04:10:07 PM
I spoke with my contact at Ontario (okay, she's just a customer service chick).  FWIW, she said that the Rat 1 D2 with plastic scales will be regular production model.

Good to know.  :tu:
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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #32 on: April 12, 2016, 05:35:50 PM
Quote from: powernoodle on April 12, 2016, 04:10:07 PM
I spoke with my contact at Ontario (okay, she's just a customer service chick).  FWIW, she said that the Rat 1 D2 with plastic scales will be regular production model.
Awesome.


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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #33 on: April 12, 2016, 05:36:49 PM
Quote from: HarleyXJGuy on April 12, 2016, 01:50:38 PM
Quote from: powernoodle on April 12, 2016, 12:55:55 AM
Received my CF D2 today as well.  Its a decent knife for $50, but as I said above, I would have ordered plastic + D2 had I realized that it was available.  Half the fun of the Rat 1 is the entry level price, and $50 is about $25 above entry level.  But the CF D2 is fun, and will get carried.

For fifty bucks you could be half way to a Bradley 2. I know which knife I would rather have.

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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #34 on: April 12, 2016, 06:10:38 PM
FWIW, Knifeworks now tells me this:

"All of these models were originally a Russian dealers exclusive.  We now have all stock of the orange, black and carbon fiber models, which we are calling our Exclusives because you cannot buy them from anyone else anymore.  The carbon fiber is now sold out, but Roger (Knifeworks owner) is currently working to see if we can get more since they did so well.

The tan and OD green models are not our exclusives and may be able to be bought from different places."

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I'm going to snag a D2 + plastic, just on general principles.   Better to have and hoard, than miss and moan.
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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #35 on: April 12, 2016, 06:12:54 PM
You really might now be able to flip this Exclusive Carbon Fiber knife  :D.  You know since its sold out and all. 
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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #36 on: April 12, 2016, 06:36:29 PM
I have no prob whatsoever selling a knife for its fair market value.  :salute:

But I'll keep this one NIB and virginous in the Powernoodle Arsenal.
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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #37 on: April 12, 2016, 07:53:46 PM
A plain G10 version would be ideal; but not if it changed the price. The plastic they use is slippery but the ergonomics are so good it does not matter.
The assisted opening version has G10 but it seems a little thicker.


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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #38 on: April 12, 2016, 08:33:28 PM
AUS-8 is usually good enough for me, but it's nice to see a different steel option (especially when the price hardly goes up any; if I didn't already have an AUS-8 version, I'd be thinking real hard about one of these). I'm looking forward to the D2 Dozier Arrow.

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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #39 on: April 12, 2016, 08:47:01 PM
So, it doesn't sound like a D2 Rat-2 is in our future, does it?  I'll have to snag a black Rat-1 D2, since it doesn't sound like they'll be around forever.


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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #40 on: April 14, 2016, 07:41:34 PM
Rat 1 D2 with plastic (faux G10) and carbon fiber:



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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #41 on: April 14, 2016, 09:55:51 PM
Quote from: powernoodle on April 14, 2016, 07:41:34 PM
Rat 1 D2 with plastic (faux G10) and carbon fiber:

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Very cool !

Too bad they couldn't do the Powernoodle crest on the blade   ;)

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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #42 on: April 14, 2016, 10:13:13 PM
A Rat 1 with the Powernoodle Crest would be quiet a collector piece.   :salute:
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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #44 on: April 15, 2016, 03:47:09 AM
Quote from: powernoodle on April 14, 2016, 10:13:13 PM
A Rat 1 with the Powernoodle Crest would be quiet a collector piece.   :salute:

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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #45 on: April 15, 2016, 03:23:21 PM

I used the D2/nylon Rat 1 to open 12 bags of pine mulch this morning.  It worked!  Shocking!  Unheard of!
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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #46 on: April 15, 2016, 05:02:33 PM
Quote from: powernoodle on April 15, 2016, 03:23:21 PM

I used the D2/nylon Rat 1 to open 12 bags of pine mulch this morning.  It worked!  Shocking!  Unheard of!



Wait, you mean it actually....... Gulp...... Cut something?      :ahhh


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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #47 on: April 15, 2016, 05:28:13 PM
Did the edge hold up better than the regular Rat ?
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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #48 on: April 15, 2016, 06:33:19 PM
Quote from: captain spaulding on April 15, 2016, 05:02:33 PM
Wait, you mean it actually....... Gulp...... Cut something?      :ahhh :D

It was one of those rare moments of glory we all dream about.

Quote from: SteveC on April 15, 2016, 05:28:13 PM
Did the edge hold up better than the regular Rat ?

Better than AUS-8, but I had to touch it up after each bag of mulch.

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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #49 on: April 15, 2016, 10:23:27 PM
Quote from: powernoodle on April 15, 2016, 06:33:19 PM
Quote from: captain spaulding on April 15, 2016, 05:02:33 PM
Wait, you mean it actually....... Gulp...... Cut something?      :ahhh :D

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Quote from: SteveC on April 15, 2016, 05:28:13 PM
Did the edge hold up better than the regular Rat ?

Better than AUS-8, but I had to touch it up after each bag of mulch.

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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #50 on: April 15, 2016, 10:26:21 PM
Yes.  Kidding.  No touching up the edge after each bag of mulch.

I had to touch it up after every other bag of mulch.

Kidding again.
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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #51 on: April 16, 2016, 04:51:58 AM
  After reading about these "Rats" here and on other forums for the past year, I finally ordered a Rat 1 and 2. They were everything That was advertised about them. Both of them, especially the 1, feels like a $60.00 to $80.00 knife. If the 2 was about a quarter inch larger, it would be an ideal size for my hands. So, to resolve that problem, I ordered a Utilitac II! I actually like it better than the Rat1! The Utilitac II is about a half of an inch shorter than the Rat 1 and the scales are a bit more aggressive, making it a little easier to grip. The steel on all three is the same AUS 8. The only thing I wish it had was a standard silver blade instead of black, but I am about to order a second one to fix that problem! 

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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #52 on: April 16, 2016, 12:47:53 PM
Quote from: mikekoz on April 16, 2016, 04:51:58 AM
I ordered a Utilitac II!

That is another fine offering from Ontario.  Noticeably beefier and heavier than the Rat 1, but well suited for the person who really wants a knife to use and abuse.  I envision the Utilitac as a good one for the job site, where it can really get thumped on.
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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #53 on: April 16, 2016, 02:35:11 PM
Quote from: powernoodle on April 15, 2016, 10:26:21 PM
Yes.  Kidding.  No touching up the edge after each bag of mulch.

I had to touch it up after every other bag of mulch.

Kidding again.

Yep, everyone knows AUS 8 will not take an edge and if used will just chip and roll.
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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #54 on: April 16, 2016, 10:51:09 PM
In the motorcycle world a "rat" bike is a nasty-never cleaned trashy bike.

Apparently Ontario Knife believes the term "rat" is a good thing.

My youngest son has several Ontario knives and I remind him of the term "rat" as it applies to motorcycles.LOL.
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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #55 on: April 17, 2016, 08:01:05 AM
A Rat bike is a no frills ragged thing that get the job done.
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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #56 on: April 17, 2016, 10:34:35 AM
I believe the rat comes from Randall's adventure training.

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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #57 on: April 17, 2016, 12:26:31 PM
They had a bit of a fallout with Randall but still call it RAT now.

Randall moved on to the ESEE Avispa/Zancudo as their folder options.

My older Model 1 and Model 2 have the original logo. The new knives have the Ontario mark.


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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #58 on: April 17, 2016, 02:21:05 PM
They named it a rat knife because it was used to skin and clean rats.

It is a New Zealand thing I heard.
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Re: New RAT Model 1 in D2
Reply #59 on: April 17, 2016, 02:58:54 PM
Quote from: HarleyXJGuy on April 17, 2016, 02:21:05 PM
They named it a rat knife because it was used to skin and clean rats.

It is a New Zealand thing I heard.

Can't confirm or deny that but either way I have no interest in that knife.   :P

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