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The Pioneer X Owners Club 15001

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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2016, 09:15:07 PM »


Glock 26 9mm?

I'm awaiting arrival of a Pioneer X this week.  I would think this model would be as popular, if not more popular as a Farmer.

Now maybe we might see a Pioneer Pruner X or Pioneer Electrician X?

I would also like to see a small blade Pioneer X (electrician, pruner or sm. pen blade) and a hefty combo tool instead of the bottle opener.

We want a Farmer X  :tu:
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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2016, 09:28:29 PM »
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Glock 26 9mm?

I'm awaiting arrival of a Pioneer X this week.  I would think this model would be as popular, if not more popular as a Farmer.

Now maybe we might see a Pioneer Pruner X or Pioneer Electrician X?

I would also like to see a small blade Pioneer X (electrician, pruner or sm. pen blade) and a hefty combo tool instead of the bottle opener.

We want a Farmer X  :tu:
Did someone ask for a Farmer X?
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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2016, 10:18:20 PM »
Or maybe Harvester X ... with a combo tool.  :)

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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2016, 10:26:36 PM »
Or maybe Harvester X ... with a combo tool.  :)
Did someone ask for a Combo Harvester X?
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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2016, 10:39:18 PM »
Also getting the majority of pocket time since I got it.


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Yes. Pioneer X is the perfect pairing with a small concealable pistol  :tu:
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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2016, 06:31:45 AM »
The Pioneer X is hard wearing and tough, more than any Compact or Climber could be.

Even if you lose the OHO knife and the small pistol (Glock 27 in .40) the Pioneer X will still be carried.
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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2016, 06:38:46 PM »
Finally!


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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2016, 06:43:38 PM »
Finally!

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I'm sure you must have been chomping at the bit waiting for yours. Glad you finally got it :D
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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2016, 06:51:36 PM »
Finally!

(Image removed from quote.)

I'm sure you must have been chomping at the bit waiting for yours. Glad you finally got it :D

 :mail: I was....mildly excited.  :whistle:

 :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #39 on: May 10, 2016, 07:04:01 PM »
I picked one up to check out since I like having scissors on the sak I carry but since I also like having the toothpick and tweezers, I don't if this one will stay.
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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #40 on: May 10, 2016, 10:51:55 PM »
Finally!

(Image removed from quote.)

I'm sure you must have been chomping at the bit waiting for yours. Glad you finally got it :D

 :mail: I was....mildly excited.  :whistle:

 :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:


Now we just need more color editions of it, right? :D
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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #41 on: May 11, 2016, 01:01:37 AM »
Finally!

(Image removed from quote.)

I'm sure you must have been chomping at the bit waiting for yours. Glad you finally got it :D

 :mail: I was....mildly excited.  :whistle:

 :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:


Now we just need more color editions of it, right? :D

100!!

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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #42 on: May 11, 2016, 04:16:09 AM »
My X in fightin' trim.... ;)




I got the idea from Spork when he posted pics of his Firesteel Farmer in these pouches. If it had enough room for that, it would fit a Light my Fire Mini as well. :tu:

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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2016, 12:27:41 AM »
Pioneer X arrived today.  If the nail nick was switched to the opposite side because of production concerns (differentiating 3mm vs 2.5mm pivot holes) maybe they can find a different production solution and return the nail nick to the expected location.  It is rather odd to try to open it and I'm not sure it was a very good decision to change it for production reasons.  If they do decide to switch it back in the near future, we may have a future collectible.

I'd still like to see and "X" version with a small blade (pen blade, electrician's blade or similar).


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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2016, 01:07:25 AM »
A better shot of mine.....

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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2016, 12:12:00 PM »
Pioneer X arrived today.  If the nail nick was switched to the opposite side because of production concerns (differentiating 3mm vs 2.5mm pivot holes) maybe they can find a different production solution and return the nail nick to the expected location.  It is rather odd to try to open it and I'm not sure it was a very good decision to change it for production reasons.  If they do decide to switch it back in the near future, we may have a future collectible.

If that is truly the reason, I wonder how they manage with the saw which is identical between 91mm and 93mm apart from the pivot hole.
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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2016, 02:50:21 PM »


I'd still like to see and "X" version with a small blade (pen blade, electrician's blade or similar).



Oh goodness yes, and a Farmer X.

Leatherman:
Wave, Surge, Skeletool, PST I,  Squirt S4, Micra, Rebar,

Victorinox:
Explorer, Super Tinker, CyberTool, Yeoman, Champion Plus, Red Shield Syph Custom, Pioneer, Ranger, Workchamp, Classic, Vagabond, Swisschamp, OH GAK

Wenger:
Handyman, Pocket Tool Chest

Spyderco:
Southard, Dragonfly 2, Para Military 2, Native Tan, Sage 3, Endura, Delica, Manix 2, Military
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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2016, 02:58:15 PM »


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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2016, 10:44:39 PM »
Regarding some above comments.

I carry SAK tweezers and toothpick in my wallet. Although not nearly as convenient as on the handle of a SAK, I have had occasions to use them. So there is no reason to do without just because your SAK carry is a Pioneer X. I did, as suggested by someone try, using a drink stirring straw as an improvised holder or sheath, but it disintegrated with time. I would like to make a little flat holder out of Tyvek or something similar to make access easier. Ultimately I want to get a little holder made out of very thin Kydex / Concealex for the toothpick, tweezer, and perhaps the small SAK pen. It could be carried in several ways, e.g., on a keychain.

As I posted elsewhere about the nail nick:
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An interesting detail that can be seen in the pictures of the Pioneer X or read about in the discussion in the thread at the Swiss Forum involve the scissors themselves. For those who have not wandered over to the other thread, the detail is that the nail nick is on the opposite of the scissors than the regular 91mm line. At least one person did not care for it as it cut across the slant on the outside of the scissors. Unless one has the scissors open and staring at them, say in a photo, I don't think the visual purity matters, and once it matters I don't think I care. [;)]   I think I prefer it on the outside rather than an inner face anyway. There is a lot of speculation as to why that was done. One reason I recall being advanced was to keep the scissors straight at the factory so they do not get mixed up. The other reason was so that one could install them on the new longer 111mm One Handed Soldier and still reach the nick.


I don't recall anyone bringing up the ergonomics as a reason, but that would be why I like the new position. Now all tools open from one side except the straight line awl which is tucked away on the other side anyway. So now when I grab the knife with my thumb on the emblem or shield, as a right hander, there is no confusion. I am ready to open any tool. (If one is left handed your thumb would be on the same side but on the end away from the shield.)


In the 91mm line the standard position of the nick always leads to a bit of confusion for me. I imagine some frequent SAK users may avoid this, but I feel it requires a bit of concentration when you grab the knife to orient it as both the blade and the scissors are visually long. Now the blade and the scissors may open toward different ends of the knife, but from the same side. I like this better. Moreover, as I mentioned, now you grab the knife one way to open any tool except the awl and that seems natural anyway.

Perhaps I should have said less confusion as 91mm scissors habits occasionally crop up. ;)

My Pioneer X arrived so I'll be carrying it for a while. [:)]

Some specifications for comparison purposes and carry decisions. Knife model, Handle length, Weight, Thickness (measured above the rivet in the middle, not on the rivet. Thicknesses varied a bit depending on how hard I turned the caliper screw by a few hundredths of a mm. On the celidor or Stay Glow models I used a similar measurement position, just up from the middle.


Knife Model                    Handle Length  Ounces  Thickness

Wenger Standard Issue        93.1mm        2.4       11.56 mm to 11.58mm
Victorinox Soldier                 93.1 mm        2.4       11.62mm - 11.66mm
Victorinox Farmer                 93.1mm        3           14mm thick
Pioneer X                             93.1mm         3.2        14.55mm thick
Compact                               91mm           2.2        14.5mm thick
Climber                                 91mm           2.9        16.76mm thick (Stay Glow handle)
Huntsman                              91mm          3.4        19.15 to 19.10 thick (Stay Glow handle)
Champion Select                   91mm          4.2         23.45mm thick (not a catalog model, think Champion w fish scaler removed.)
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Although I think the absence of a saw blade makes the Pioneer X a bit more svelte for urban carry, like the Climber versus the Huntsman, I still look forward to a Farmer X. I do not see a crossed fingers emoticon up above, but here is hoping! The saw just adds so much power for a relatively thin layer, even only used occasionally. A Farmer X would be excellent in those pictures posted with pistols, after all a saw can be used to clear shooting lanes. Personally, I am more likely to use it to trim a branch in my yard. :)

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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #49 on: May 18, 2016, 02:36:27 AM »
My Pioneer X with a Bob Lessard "Urban Pioneer" I acquired a couple of years ago.

The factory Pioneer X has been my only carry for the last two weeks.
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 7,074
Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #50 on: May 18, 2016, 10:57:17 PM »
My Pioneer X with a Bob Lessard "Urban Pioneer" I acquired a couple of years ago.

The factory Pioneer X has been my only carry for the last two weeks.

What made you get an X if you already have a scissor having Alox?

Leatherman:
Wave, Surge, Skeletool, PST I,  Squirt S4, Micra, Rebar,

Victorinox:
Explorer, Super Tinker, CyberTool, Yeoman, Champion Plus, Red Shield Syph Custom, Pioneer, Ranger, Workchamp, Classic, Vagabond, Swisschamp, OH GAK

Wenger:
Handyman, Pocket Tool Chest

Spyderco:
Southard, Dragonfly 2, Para Military 2, Native Tan, Sage 3, Endura, Delica, Manix 2, Military
No Life Club Posts: 3,797
Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #51 on: May 19, 2016, 01:33:35 AM »
My Pioneer X with a Bob Lessard "Urban Pioneer" I acquired a couple of years ago.

The factory Pioneer X has been my only carry for the last two weeks.

What made you get an X if you already have a scissor having Alox?

Aloxia is a common disease in this area of cyberspace Harley, alox produces powerful symptoms in the afflicted including feelings of euphoria and extreme compulsive episodes. Aloxia has no known cure. It is treatable, but it appears to be something that can only be managed by making the disease progessively worse. Aloxia starts with a small benign object, usually around 93mm in length, but sometimes even smaller, there have been cases of a single 58mm object growing into a full-blown multi-dimensional obsession.  There are reports of the disease growing beyond many boundaries both financial and physical, sometimes dragging innocent bystanders into the disease or horrifying others with it's bizarre symptoms. So far there have been no reported casualties, but there have been some unfortunate mishaps, and mild social awkwardness is fairly common in sufferers, who seek comfort from other victims via the interweb. Using slang terms such as 'aloxaholic', etc. are common indicators of those who are aware of this uncatastrophic disease, and may possibly have Aloxia themselves.
Sr. Member Posts: 299
Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #52 on: May 19, 2016, 02:35:10 AM »
My Pioneer X with a Bob Lessard "Urban Pioneer" I acquired a couple of years ago.

The factory Pioneer X has been my only carry for the last two weeks.

What made you get an X if you already have a scissor having Alox?

Aloxia is a common disease in this area of cyberspace Harley, alox produces powerful symptoms in the afflicted including feelings of euphoria and extreme compulsive episodes. Aloxia has no known cure. It is treatable, but it appears to be something that can only be managed by making the disease progessively worse. Aloxia starts with a small benign object, usually around 93mm in length, but sometimes even smaller, there have been cases of a single 58mm object growing into a full-blown multi-dimensional obsession.  There are reports of the disease growing beyond many boundaries both financial and physical, sometimes dragging innocent bystanders into the disease or horrifying others with it's bizarre symptoms. So far there have been no reported casualties, but there have been some unfortunate mishaps, and mild social awkwardness is fairly common in sufferers, who seek comfort from other victims via the interweb. Using slang terms such as 'aloxaholic', etc. are common indicators of those who are aware of this uncatastrophic disease, and may possibly have Aloxia themselves.

Yeah, what that guy said.

Tell'ya something else, I plan to buy at least one more Pioneer X.
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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #53 on: May 19, 2016, 03:01:58 AM »
Really liking this new design! So much potential with the inclusion of scissors to large alox models again.
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Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #54 on: May 19, 2016, 03:50:58 AM »
Tell'ya something else, I plan to buy at least one more Pioneer X.

Yes at least.  8)
Global Moderator Absolute Zombie Club Posts: 31,310
Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #55 on: May 19, 2016, 11:01:48 AM »




Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 7,074
Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #56 on: May 21, 2016, 12:17:09 AM »
How did you do it Lobby?

Leatherman:
Wave, Surge, Skeletool, PST I,  Squirt S4, Micra, Rebar,

Victorinox:
Explorer, Super Tinker, CyberTool, Yeoman, Champion Plus, Red Shield Syph Custom, Pioneer, Ranger, Workchamp, Classic, Vagabond, Swisschamp, OH GAK

Wenger:
Handyman, Pocket Tool Chest

Spyderco:
Southard, Dragonfly 2, Para Military 2, Native Tan, Sage 3, Endura, Delica, Manix 2, Military
Global Moderator Absolute Zombie Club Posts: 31,310
Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2016, 12:28:32 AM »
Bit of electrical tape on each side, smurf file, diamond coated file, 300 grit sandpaper.
No Life Club Posts: 3,797
Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2016, 12:32:40 AM »
Bit of electrical tape on each side, smurf file, diamond coated file, 300 grit sandpaper.

And by 'smurf file' you mean the Aldo Raine one? That's what I used too.  :D
Global Moderator Absolute Zombie Club Posts: 31,310
Re: The Pioneer X Owners Club
« Reply #59 on: May 21, 2016, 12:35:36 AM »
Bit of electrical tape on each side, smurf file, diamond coated file, 300 grit sandpaper.

And by 'smurf file' you mean the Aldo Raine one? That's what I used too.  :D

Affirmative.   :tu:   :tu:

 

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