Road patrol officers wouldn't want too many things hanging off of them or attached by lanyards because everything that is attached to you by lanyard is something else that can be grabbed by the bad guy in a scuffle to pull you off balance.
So what happened to LEO's needing a Mini-Surge?Again, personally I don't see the need in a Body Carry MT for an Officer. Anything they carry; is more weight. Regardless of what it is, they will be lighter if its left in a patrol car or bag.
So what happened to LEO's needing a Mini-Surge?
Again, personally I don't see the need in a Body Carry MT for an Officer. Anything they carry; is more weight. Regardless of what it is, they will be lighter if its left in a patrol car or bag.
Why? the car is right there. If tools are needed, just go grab them! I did EMS for years in both rural and suburban areas, and NEVER needed an MT on me. If something was needed, I had both a bag with me, and a friggin' ambulance right there too!
Quote from: NKlamerus on May 15, 2016, 07:34:46 AMSo what happened to LEO's needing a Mini-Surge?That is still a good idea. But Leatherman did not respond in that topic, so it is fully uncertain if it will ever be made. And in the mean-time, officers need to carry multi-tools
Also the RX has no saw what are those flood victims going to do.
Officers cannot always stay close to their car. For example in search & rescue in a forest, pursuit on foot, searching a large factory, entering a sky-scraper, patroling on an event or in a chool, staying at a road-block, riot control, etc.
Quote from: Rico-2 on May 15, 2016, 08:20:12 AMOfficers cannot always stay close to their car. For example in search & rescue in a forest, pursuit on foot, searching a large factory, entering a sky-scraper, patroling on an event or in a chool, staying at a road-block, riot control, etc. search & rescue in a forest: I also recommend a bottle of water for this (before an MT), clearly this is not something you run into, you plan it and it takes only seconds to grab an MT (also in the forest it is highly unlikely that you need a screwdriver).pursuit on foot: You won't need an MT for that. Communication is key to that.searching a large factory, entering a sky-scraper: What are you planning on doing? Fixing a power outlet?patrolling on an event or a school, staying at a road-block, riot control: Shouldn't the policemen focus on their job? They are not janitors!Having an MT at hand is awesome, even if you use it only on the rarest occasion. But if you are already overloaded you will need to make a compromise. Also, I think you are trying to pack for the whole career of the police officer and not just the occasion. I think you need to order your concept and re-think what you want.Where does the cop work (city / suburbs / countryside...)What are his functions (patrolling / traffic control / mall cop...)
Having an MT at hand is awesome, even if you use it only on the rarest occasion. But if you are already overloaded you will need to make a compromise. Also, I think you are trying to pack for the whole career of the police officer and not just the occasion. I think you need to order your concept and re-think what you want. Where does the cop work (city / suburbs / countryside...) What are his functions (patrolling / traffic control / mall cop...)
Well, may I ask you why every thread seems to be police related? Are you a cop on your own or just interessted in the gear they carry?
I really don't think any police organization anywhere in the world is going to come here to figure out if they should carry an MT, or what one they should carry. I appreciate your enthusiasm and interest in what officers should carry, but I just don't think it's something that anyone one person can influence.
You also can't focus on the 1% that might happen. Police seem to be doing fairly well dealing with the 99% common things they do encounter.
Ground SAR isn't something that's just rushed into either. There's planning involved, and it generally involves SAR techs of some sort. Even if there are no SAR techs, officers will asses the situation, and take with them what they feel they might need.
I really don't think any police organization anywhere in the world is going to come here to figure out if they should carry an MT, or what one they should carry.
Quote from: Humppa on May 16, 2016, 12:08:29 PMWell, may I ask you why every thread seems to be police related? Are you a cop on your own or just interessted in the gear they carry?I am sorry. I prefer not to answer these questions.
That is your choice but I think you would be taken a little more seriously here and might be received a little better if you would let us know why your specific interest in the Police angle. It all seems a little odd otherwise to be so obsessed with this specific application of MT's.
Quote from: yud on May 15, 2016, 09:42:40 PMAlso the RX has no saw what are those flood victims going to do.If someone is trapped in his house for whatever reason, he will have to wait, till the needed rescue-equipment arrives, like an axe or chain-saw. Unless he has his own exit tools available. Like an extensive multi-tool or axe.The deeply serrated blade of the Skeletool RX can do some light sawing in soft-wood, like I guess 2 inch branches. If branches of that thickness are alive, they cannot easily be broken. The Skeletool can however be carried with a separate micro folding-saw, for a little more sawing capacity.
To the TO:I realised that you are rather interessted if this or that tool is good for police or carry or not. Well, may I ask you why every thread seems to be police related? Are you a cop on your own or just interessted in the gear they carry? An MT for me a helper during the day and nothing with any tactical aspect.I don´t want to offend, I´m just interessted.
Quote from: Humppa on May 16, 2016, 12:08:29 PMWell, may I ask you why every thread seems to be police related? Are you a cop on your own or just interessted in the gear they carry?I am sorry. I prefer not to aswer these questions.
these police multitool threads become annoying. Most of the forum users tell you there is no need for a multitool in a daily officer job (and i agree with it).I suggest you to concentrate on one thread instead of making dozen of them.