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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #120 on: September 05, 2016, 08:23:59 PM
First day's lessons learned we started walking in the dark......photos dried up a bit.

Day 2 was a fresh hell, not downhill but very rough terrain.
Unfortunately we couldn't stop the enjoy the sulfur  springs......not even photos  :facepalm:





Did (sort of) get the wild horses living not far from there


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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #121 on: September 05, 2016, 10:44:51 PM
Wow, what a bleak (but interesting) landscape. Keep the photos coming....  :tu:

To lose that next 10kg I would look at diet as much as exercise. I recently stopped buying things like biscuits and chocolate, having nuts instead if I feel like a snack, and my belly is disappearing. :)

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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #122 on: September 05, 2016, 11:44:14 PM
Some great pics so far GG :salute: Looks like a scenic trail even if barren :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: Very beautiful in the first pic :like:
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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #123 on: September 06, 2016, 07:47:22 AM
Will do as I get time, unfortunately didn't get half of what I wanted....

I've lost over 40kg in the past year and a half, basically on the Banting diet.
I refuse to give up chocolate, drink too much beer (and too much in general  :facepalm:) which probably explains why I haven't lost 20kg more.....

But we have to enjoy life as well, so my plan for now is just less of everything and to start exercising a bit more seriously....

The fittest and toughest member of our group was also the oldest at 45, so I still have time!  :rofl:   

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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #124 on: September 06, 2016, 08:28:05 AM
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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #125 on: September 06, 2016, 09:56:46 AM
Quote from: Gerhard Gerber on September 06, 2016, 07:47:22 AM
I've lost over 40kg in the past year and a half, basically on the Banting diet.

That is excellent!  :tu:

I've been on a low carb high fat (LCHF/Banting) diet for the last 15 months, with similar good results. It might not work for everyone, but it certainly works for me. I've lost 20kg in 9 months, and is now back to the weight before I got married 12 years ago. My weight has been stable for the last 6 months, and my BMI hovers around 24.5 - 25. If anyone told me this was possible two years ago, I would have laughed in their faces. LCHF has really changed my life for the better.

It cannot be easy to pack food for a hike on LCHF... Very difficult to take fresh meat, veggies and dairy etc. and stay away from the processed foods and sugar/carbs.

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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #126 on: September 06, 2016, 12:36:25 PM
Quote from: Brock O Lee on September 06, 2016, 09:56:46 AM

It cannot be easy to pack food for a hike on LCHF... Very difficult to take fresh meat, veggies and dairy etc. and stay away from the processed foods and sugar/carbs.

Firstly, well done!

You hit the nail on the head, I constantly worried about how and what and in what form I could take the fat I needed.......

My experience was completely different from what I expected.......moral of the story is we eat too much, way too much, and for that hike the ideal fuel is carbs.....sugar specifically.

I was at the point where I could feel the increase in energy a few minutes after eating some SuperC's for example.

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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #127 on: September 07, 2016, 09:26:12 AM
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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #128 on: September 07, 2016, 03:19:46 PM
What a beautiful area- and yes, it does look somewhat hellish, but you have managed it and no one can take that away from you!  I am so jealous of your trip, especially since I doubt I'd ever be able to manage something like that!

So.... when do you go next?  :D

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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #129 on: September 07, 2016, 04:47:17 PM
Really enjoyed your follow up to the trip.  Now that you've completed it the experience gained will be invaluable for future endeavors.       
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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #130 on: September 07, 2016, 06:21:32 PM
What an excellent looking trip Gerhard.  :cheers:

My knees are screaming at the thought of a 32kg pack!! :ahhh  My pack for a three night winter trip normally tips the scales at around 20-22kg and I'd like to make it lighter.  Like you though I've learned from experience and have stopped packing stuff that I'm not going to need or consume; things like large bottles of brandy for instance. ;)
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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #131 on: September 07, 2016, 08:32:10 PM
If you look carefully you'll see a Vespa, there's another one we missed, you can read all about it http://www.fishrivercanyon1968vespaexpedition.com/Vespa_in_the_Fsh_River_Canyon/1968_Vespa_Canyon_Expediti.html here


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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #132 on: September 07, 2016, 08:38:05 PM
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That bit of sun is bad news.....beautiful as it is.....



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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #133 on: September 07, 2016, 08:42:45 PM
Right up ahead the ugliness starts.....



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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #134 on: September 07, 2016, 08:47:35 PM
One of the shortcuts, you basically cut over the oxbow





And you hope there's water at the other end....




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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #135 on: September 07, 2016, 09:01:45 PM
This was us, best case scenario from 11am-3pm......rocks become comfy as long as they're in the shade



That's me day 4 with some man-made shade and making water with the Sawyer.
My stomach was upset, had no appetite and the mood was pretty crappy by then  :D



I was not alone, on day one I had a panicked moment when I couldn't get the snaps undone to get my pack off.....
In this photo I was ahead of the group, reached some shade, took of my pack and just lay down on the rocks and moved around till it hurt the least.  I won't go into getting up from there.....


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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #136 on: September 07, 2016, 09:05:10 PM
WASTED.........youth!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #137 on: September 07, 2016, 09:08:52 PM
Quote from: Gareth on September 07, 2016, 06:21:32 PM
What an excellent looking trip Gerhard.  :cheers:

My knees are screaming at the thought of a 32kg pack!! :ahhh  My pack for a three night winter trip normally tips the scales at around 20-22kg and I'd like to make it lighter.  Like you though I've learned from experience and have stopped packing stuff that I'm not going to need or consume; things like large bottles of brandy for instance. ;)

I want to get down to 105-110kg and the pack down to 25kg'ish.  In the winter the brandy/whiskey is a must, but for sure next time I'm taking beer.....dreamed about the stuff!  :cheers:

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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #138 on: September 07, 2016, 11:25:31 PM
Enjoying the pics and your commentary about the hike! Really like the pic of the big rock.    :tu:      :)
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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #139 on: September 08, 2016, 12:34:03 AM
Quote from: David on September 07, 2016, 11:25:31 PM
Enjoying the pics and your commentary about the hike! Really like the pic of the big rock.    :tu:      :)

Like he said ^^

I'd love to have a go at something like this but would need to get a lot fitter first.
I used to come here a lot.

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Reply #140 on: September 08, 2016, 12:34:47 AM
Thanks for the updates, it's always nice to see and read about other people's adventures.

I'm getting a hip flask so that I can take whiskey on my trips.  :drink:

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Reply #141 on: September 08, 2016, 12:37:04 AM
Nice pics, the vespa one is a crazy scale.   :like:   :like:

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Reply #142 on: September 08, 2016, 12:37:48 AM
Quote from: DaveK on September 08, 2016, 12:34:03 AM
Quote from: David on September 07, 2016, 11:25:31 PM
Enjoying the pics and your commentary about the hike! Really like the pic of the big rock.    :tu:      :)

Like he said ^^

I'd love to have a go at something like this but would need to get a lot fitter first.

You get fitter by doing small versions of this.  :pok:

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Re: Fish River hike challenge
Reply #143 on: September 08, 2016, 12:56:26 AM
Quote from: Syncop8r on September 08, 2016, 12:37:48 AM
Quote from: DaveK on September 08, 2016, 12:34:03 AM
Quote from: David on September 07, 2016, 11:25:31 PM
Enjoying the pics and your commentary about the hike! Really like the pic of the big rock.    :tu:      :)

Like he said ^^

I'd love to have a go at something like this but would need to get a lot fitter first.

You get fitter by doing small versions of this.  :pok:

Oh I do. I walk/hike a lot (just trawl back through the shutter shop forum lol). But there's a big step up to the sort of conditions / distances Gerhard has achieved and you can only get so far day-hiking.

I used to come here a lot.

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Reply #144 on: September 08, 2016, 07:37:58 AM
I think most of you are underestimating yourselves........there was a bunch of old fat people on that trail!  :cheers:

Most of us can do a lot more and go much further than we know, my "fitness" comes from the right diet the past 18 months and walking my dogs about 4km mostly 3 times a week.....that's not really exercise!  :rofl:

As long as you major joints are in passable shape most people can make it..........or strap up and do it anyway  >:D


My blisters aren't close to healed, but we're doing the 16km at Okapuka this Sunday to keep in shape and improve......I'm eating like a pig since we got back!  :rofl:

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Reply #145 on: September 08, 2016, 07:49:50 AM
You don't look overweight - you must be quite tall if you want to get down to 110kg.
I'm 6'2" and around 96kg.

Quote from: Gerhard Gerber on September 08, 2016, 07:37:58 AM
I think most of you are underestimating yourselves........ Most of us can do a lot more and go much further than we know...

Too true. I reckon nearly anyone who can run 5km regularly can do a half marathon with a little bit of training. Mind over matter.
It's when you get about 30km into a marathon that bits start breaking down or falling off.
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Reply #146 on: September 08, 2016, 10:59:12 AM
Thanks for the pictures!

Balmy desert winter weather, eh? Wonder how it feels like in high summer...
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Reply #147 on: September 08, 2016, 01:26:31 PM
Quote from: Brock O Lee on September 08, 2016, 10:59:12 AM
Thanks for the pictures!

Balmy desert winter weather, eh? Wonder how it feels like in high summer...

Well, the Fish empties into the Orange River, and from personal experience I can tell you during high summer I drove to the river at 6am, by 9am I couldn't stand it anymore and went home.......these trips were just to get out of the house a bit, not for fishing or anything productive.

Last year or the year before they had rain and -8C temps at some stage, I sure wouldn't want to experience that........

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Reply #148 on: September 13, 2016, 07:48:36 AM
Only 1 or 2 more pics to share, will get to those soon.........but first a small update....

For sure loosing 3 toe nails, 2 on my left and 1 on right foot.  :rofl:

I believe 90% of the damage gets done on the first day during the descent, you can only tighten your laces so much......

Oh..........I'll spare you further photos of my feet!  :rofl:

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Reply #149 on: September 13, 2016, 08:01:42 AM
I hate descents!  :td:

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