No cellidor SAK will ever have the charm of a Pioneer Rancher!
Quote from: firiki on July 05, 2016, 12:25:26 PMNo cellidor SAK will ever have the charm of a Pioneer Rancher! Agree! I'm also a big Rancher fan
Quote from: Monrogue on July 05, 2016, 12:59:38 AM(..) My debit card gets a crack over time. (..)Mine too, probably because of buying too much Swiss Army Knives
(..) My debit card gets a crack over time. (..)
Once the Alox scales are beat up, that's it; you now have beat up scales. A little wear on Alox scales only enhances the beauty but I know some of us want to keep the pristine look of our user knives. With the normal Cellidor scales, when they get beat up, they are easily replaced. Not only can you replace them, you can change the color as well. Right now I have SAKs in Red, Cobalt, Hunter, White, Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Black and StayGlow. If I get tired of one color, I can always switch it to another within a couple minutes.
Your points are valid, and I used to think the same way. To remedy this, I carry a Swisscard which has all the scale tools, plus more. No replacement for the hook, mini driver or corkscrew though, but I rarely use them. However, this does add an extra item to the pocket, so that can be a downside.(Image removed from quote.)Sent from my SM-G920R4 using Tapatalk
Quote from: Monrogue on July 05, 2016, 12:30:46 AMYour points are valid, and I used to think the same way. To remedy this, I carry a Swisscard which has all the scale tools, plus more. No replacement for the hook, mini driver or corkscrew though, but I rarely use them. However, this does add an extra item to the pocket, so that can be a downside.(Image removed from quote.)Sent from my SM-G920R4 using TapatalkHoly Crap!I've been carrying a CT-41 with timekeeper scales for years at work. This might be the solution I need to swap it out for a Farmer (and Swisscard). Gotta think about this one...
Quote from: Mr. Whippy on July 05, 2016, 08:39:56 PMQuote from: Monrogue on July 05, 2016, 12:30:46 AMYour points are valid, and I used to think the same way. To remedy this, I carry a Swisscard which has all the scale tools, plus more. No replacement for the hook, mini driver or corkscrew though, but I rarely use them. However, this does add an extra item to the pocket, so that can be a downside.(Image removed from quote.)Sent from my SM-G920R4 using TapatalkHoly Crap!I've been carrying a CT-41 with timekeeper scales for years at work. This might be the solution I need to swap it out for a Farmer (and Swisscard). Gotta think about this one... They're a handy little item really Sent from my SM-G920R4 using Tapatalk
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Quote from: Monrogue on July 05, 2016, 08:43:48 PMQuote from: Mr. Whippy on July 05, 2016, 08:39:56 PMQuote from: Monrogue on July 05, 2016, 12:30:46 AMYour points are valid, and I used to think the same way. To remedy this, I carry a Swisscard which has all the scale tools, plus more. No replacement for the hook, mini driver or corkscrew though, but I rarely use them. However, this does add an extra item to the pocket, so that can be a downside.(Image removed from quote.)Sent from my SM-G920R4 using TapatalkHoly Crap!I've been carrying a CT-41 with timekeeper scales for years at work. This might be the solution I need to swap it out for a Farmer (and Swisscard). Gotta think about this one... They're a handy little item really Sent from my SM-G920R4 using TapatalkI liked the SwissCard idea too, so I got a nailcare version for security areas, then the glass file broke in half while it was in my wallet and I couldn't retrieve the broken part inside. I'm sure the other half is still in there somewhere, deep in the landfill. My eco Climber doesn't have scale tools either, which is why it's my favorite one I think, so smooth like a river stone.
Quote from: HarleyXJGuy on July 05, 2016, 05:55:58 PMWhere is the ban button?Trust me, the button is armed and ready. I'm just making a list of everyone who agrees with the OP before putting it to use......
I agree pretty much with Swiss Guy.Except I would sooner slice off a fingertip and write with my own oozing blood than use one of those awful Victorinox biros.
Quote from: jerseydevil on July 06, 2016, 02:48:34 AMQuote from: HarleyXJGuy on July 05, 2016, 05:55:58 PMWhere is the ban button?Trust me, the button is armed and ready. I'm just making a list of everyone who agrees with the OP before putting it to use...... Looks like someone with the initials JD is going to get eliminated from the ANL giveaway. Tsk, tsk.
The Cellidor SAKs are more comfortable in my hand. The way the tools protrude on alox SAKs does sometimes lead to a uncomfortable grip, especially the way the edge (excellent) awl can push into the little finger when using the large blade in a “hammer grip” or similar. On keyring models, the way a lot of people grind it off is quite telling about how comfortable that is. On models with the saw, the saw is mounted in such a manner that it can bite into the hand when using other tools. I find several Cellidor SAKs less than optimal in my hand, e.g. the most loved Climber is not my best friend, but there are so many different Cellidor SAKs that it doesn't matter much. (Note: I'm talking about relative comfort, not whether the knives are usable.)I love the alox SAKs, and my opinion here is “Why not both?” as usual, but most of the knives in my EDC rotation are Cellidor, and that's not only because of the wider selection of Cellidor SAKs. I'd love for Vic to start looking into a stronger, more chemical resistant plastic for the handles.
Just adding two things I like about alox models, they are rugged and they have an old-school simplicity I appreciate greatly.
Quote from: firiki on July 07, 2016, 11:39:00 AMJust adding two things I like about alox models, they are rugged and they have an old-school simplicity I appreciate greatly.+1 on these two, maybe the biggest factors for me.
Quote from: twiliter on July 07, 2016, 12:37:43 PMQuote from: firiki on July 07, 2016, 11:39:00 AMJust adding two things I like about alox models, they are rugged and they have an old-school simplicity I appreciate greatly.+1 on these two, maybe the biggest factors for me. Much as I hate agreeing with firiki (like a rabbit agreeing with the wolf), they are built well and without actually testing them, they are probably bombproof. The only modification I'd like to see is across the board use of the hollow rivet - best of both worlds as it is comfortable to hold even with a bail, and you can leave it out if you're one of those oddballs who doesn't like a lanyard.
The other nice thing is the size, the blade is just enough bigger to make it a regular KP tool rather than an occasional one. The bigger opener layer too, not sure if the SD has a higher rivet failure point when prying, but it sure feels like it can handle heavier tasks. Also levering it against alox is less destructive than the 91mm scale materials.