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Why I Don't Like Alox 5717

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #60 on: July 07, 2016, 01:15:39 PM »
Just adding two things I like about alox models, they are rugged and they have an old-school simplicity I appreciate greatly.

+1 on these two, maybe the biggest factors for me.  :tu:
Much as I hate agreeing with firiki (like a rabbit agreeing with the wolf), they are built well and without actually testing them, they are probably bombproof.

The only modification I'd like to see is across the board use of the hollow rivet - best of both worlds as it is comfortable to hold even with a bail, and you can leave it out if you're one of those oddballs who doesn't like a lanyard.  :D

(Image removed from quote.)

 ::)

As long as the hollow rivet is up to the task... I wonder why Victorinox stopped using those :think:

I like having a lanyard as well as the ability to quickly remove any protrusions from the SAK in a second. The only way to do this is through a hollow rivet.

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I am a moderator now firiki  >:D

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #61 on: July 07, 2016, 01:31:25 PM »
The only modification I'd like to see is across the board use of the hollow rivet - best of both worlds as it is comfortable to hold even with a bail, and you can leave it out if you're one of those oddballs who doesn't like a lanyard.  :D

I actually hated the bail with a vengeance on a previous Wenger SI. It is easy to accidentally close the main blade on the bail, which causes a nice big ding in the edge. I said bad words on more than a couple of occasions because of that freaking bail...
« Last Edit: July 07, 2016, 01:34:10 PM by Brock O Lee »

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #62 on: July 07, 2016, 01:35:08 PM »
The other nice thing is the size, the blade is just enough bigger to make it a regular KP tool rather than an occasional one. The bigger opener layer too, not sure if the SD has a higher rivet failure point when prying, but it sure feels like it can handle heavier tasks. Also levering it against alox is less destructive than the 91mm scale materials.

Uhh, what's a KP tool, please?

I'd say the thicker implements + thicker rivets + thicker scales on 93mm models probably means the can handle some bigger loads than their 91mm cousins though how much bigger I have no idea  :think:  :)


KP = kitchen patrol, or food prep.

I'm not testing the rivet theory to failure either, I like my SAKs too much to kill them.  ;) I think they gave up on the hollow rivets because the liner KR mount is easier to manufacture, but it could be something else entirely. Congrats on your Modhood Mags, I'll try to toe the line!  :ahhh
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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #63 on: July 07, 2016, 01:37:17 PM »
The only modification I'd like to see is across the board use of the hollow rivet - best of both worlds as it is comfortable to hold even with a bail, and you can leave it out if you're one of those oddballs who doesn't like a lanyard.  :D

I actually hated the bail with a vengeance on a previous Wenger SI. It is easy to accidentally close the main blade on the bail, which causes a nice big ding in the edge. I said bad words on more than a couple of occasions because of that freaking bail...

Then there's that, I have seen bail damage on blades. I'm still OK with the absence of bail/keyring altogether, solves the whole issue for me.  :)
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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #64 on: July 07, 2016, 01:54:11 PM »
The only modification I'd like to see is across the board use of the hollow rivet - best of both worlds as it is comfortable to hold even with a bail, and you can leave it out if you're one of those oddballs who doesn't like a lanyard.  :D

I actually hated the bail with a vengeance on a previous Wenger SI. It is easy to accidentally close the main blade on the bail, which causes a nice big ding in the edge. I said bad words on more than a couple of occasions because of that freaking bail...

Then there's that, I have seen bail damage on blades. I'm still OK with the absence of bail/keyring altogether, solves the whole issue for me.  :)

I think the hollow rivet looks pretty, for some reason. Two solid rivets and one hollow one.. I think it is a nice detail. Same goes for the WK (WaffenKontroll) stamps on the older models, I really like that. It all gives the knife so much more character :)



But I do prefer the hollow rivet without the bail. The knife looks more elegant without the bail.

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #65 on: July 07, 2016, 01:56:58 PM »
The only modification I'd like to see is across the board use of the hollow rivet - best of both worlds as it is comfortable to hold even with a bail, and you can leave it out if you're one of those oddballs who doesn't like a lanyard.  :D

I actually hated the bail with a vengeance on a previous Wenger SI. It is easy to accidentally close the main blade on the bail, which causes a nice big ding in the edge. I said bad words on more than a couple of occasions because of that freaking bail...
Yeah, there is that.  :facepalm: a piece of twine through the rivet works quite well too and then no dings!

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #66 on: July 07, 2016, 01:57:38 PM »
The only modification I'd like to see is across the board use of the hollow rivet - best of both worlds as it is comfortable to hold even with a bail, and you can leave it out if you're one of those oddballs who doesn't like a lanyard.  :D

I actually hated the bail with a vengeance on a previous Wenger SI. It is easy to accidentally close the main blade on the bail, which causes a nice big ding in the edge. I said bad words on more than a couple of occasions because of that freaking bail...

Then there's that, I have seen bail damage on blades. I'm still OK with the absence of bail/keyring altogether, solves the whole issue for me.  :)

I think the hollow rivet looks pretty, for some reason. Two solid rivets and one hollow one.. I think it is a nice detail. Same goes for the WK (WaffenKontroll) stamps on the older models, I really like that. It all gives the knife so much more character :)

(Image removed from quote.)

But I do prefer the hollow rivet without the bail. The knife looks more elegant without the bail.

The WK stamp is a nice bit of history isn't it?

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #67 on: July 07, 2016, 01:59:11 PM »
The other nice thing is the size, the blade is just enough bigger to make it a regular KP tool rather than an occasional one. The bigger opener layer too, not sure if the SD has a higher rivet failure point when prying, but it sure feels like it can handle heavier tasks. Also levering it against alox is less destructive than the 91mm scale materials.

Uhh, what's a KP tool, please?

I'd say the thicker implements + thicker rivets + thicker scales on 93mm models probably means the can handle some bigger loads than their 91mm cousins though how much bigger I have no idea  :think:  :)


KP = kitchen patrol, or food prep.

I'm not testing the rivet theory to failure either, I like my SAKs too much to kill them.  ;) I think they gave up on the hollow rivets because the liner KR mount is easier to manufacture, but it could be something else entirely. Congrats on your Modhood Mags, I'll try to toe the line!  :ahhh
Thanks Twilizzle  :salute: No special treatment now....

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #68 on: July 07, 2016, 02:43:37 PM »
The other nice thing is the size, the blade is just enough bigger to make it a regular KP tool rather than an occasional one. The bigger opener layer too, not sure if the SD has a higher rivet failure point when prying, but it sure feels like it can handle heavier tasks. Also levering it against alox is less destructive than the 91mm scale materials.

Uhh, what's a KP tool, please?

I'd say the thicker implements + thicker rivets + thicker scales on 93mm models probably means the can handle some bigger loads than their 91mm cousins though how much bigger I have no idea  :think:  :)


KP = kitchen patrol, or food prep.

I'm not testing the rivet theory to failure either, I like my SAKs too much to kill them.  ;) I think they gave up on the hollow rivets because the liner KR mount is easier to manufacture, but it could be something else entirely. Congrats on your Modhood Mags, I'll try to toe the line!  :ahhh
Thanks Twilizzle  :salute: No special treatment now....

Congrats on making Mod m-gizzle! :salute:
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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #69 on: July 07, 2016, 03:15:59 PM »
Just adding two things I like about alox models, they are rugged and they have an old-school simplicity I appreciate greatly.

+1 on these two, maybe the biggest factors for me.  :tu:
Much as I hate agreeing with firiki (like a rabbit agreeing with the wolf), they are built well and without actually testing them, they are probably bombproof.

The only modification I'd like to see is across the board use of the hollow rivet - best of both worlds as it is comfortable to hold even with a bail, and you can leave it out if you're one of those oddballs who doesn't like a lanyard.  :D

(Image removed from quote.)

 ::)

As long as the hollow rivet is up to the task... I wonder why Victorinox stopped using those :think:

I like having a lanyard as well as the ability to quickly remove any protrusions from the SAK in a second. The only way to do this is through a hollow rivet.

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Is magentus a Moderator now or is the forum's software acting up again?
I am a moderator now firiki  >:D

They let anybody in these days, I see...  :D



Congratulations, young Jedi. You know what they say, with great power comes great responsability.

I'm sure you'll make good use of your new superpowers. :cheers:

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #70 on: July 07, 2016, 03:26:30 PM »
Mags is a Mod now?!
:ahhh  :ahhh

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #71 on: July 07, 2016, 03:27:02 PM »
Lol, no really, congrats Mags buddy old pal ;)

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #72 on: July 07, 2016, 03:34:42 PM »
The other nice thing is the size, the blade is just enough bigger to make it a regular KP tool rather than an occasional one. The bigger opener layer too, not sure if the SD has a higher rivet failure point when prying, but it sure feels like it can handle heavier tasks. Also levering it against alox is less destructive than the 91mm scale materials.

Uhh, what's a KP tool, please?

I'd say the thicker implements + thicker rivets + thicker scales on 93mm models probably means the can handle some bigger loads than their 91mm cousins though how much bigger I have no idea  :think:  :)


KP = kitchen patrol, or food prep.

I'm not testing the rivet theory to failure either, I like my SAKs too much to kill them.  ;) I think they gave up on the hollow rivets because the liner KR mount is easier to manufacture, but it could be something else entirely. Congrats on your Modhood Mags, I'll try to toe the line!  :ahhh

Thanks, I learned something today :salute:

I don't like pushing my SAKs to their limits either. For the record though, I've had to use my Pioneer to open a crate once, I removed three planks and 12 stubborn nails with it. At first I thought it developped some lateral play afterwards but I'm still carrying the same SAK three and a half years later and I've also undone some seized screws with it with no damage to report. They can take some serious use, that's for sure.  :tu:
« Last Edit: July 07, 2016, 03:35:45 PM by firiki »

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #73 on: July 07, 2016, 03:37:54 PM »
Mags is a Mod now?!
:ahhh  :ahhh

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Run!

Congrats Mags!
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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #74 on: July 07, 2016, 03:39:21 PM »
The only modification I'd like to see is across the board use of the hollow rivet - best of both worlds as it is comfortable to hold even with a bail, and you can leave it out if you're one of those oddballs who doesn't like a lanyard.  :D

I actually hated the bail with a vengeance on a previous Wenger SI. It is easy to accidentally close the main blade on the bail, which causes a nice big ding in the edge. I said bad words on more than a couple of occasions because of that freaking bail...

Then there's that, I have seen bail damage on blades. I'm still OK with the absence of bail/keyring altogether, solves the whole issue for me.  :)

'Tis why I only mentioned the hollow rivet earlier. I always wondered why Wenger didn't make that bail shorter!

And like magentus said


Yeah, there is that.  :facepalm: a piece of twine through the rivet works quite well too and then no dings!

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #75 on: July 07, 2016, 03:40:11 PM »
Thanks chums, I think it had a little to do with the photographic evidence I have been dilligently building up over the past few years. Mwa ha ha haaaa

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #76 on: July 07, 2016, 03:50:43 PM »
Mags is a Mod now?!
:ahhh  :ahhh

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Congrats Mags!
I was like, "Oh @#$#!" and then I was like, "it's ok, Mags is cool"

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #77 on: July 07, 2016, 03:51:29 PM »
 :ahhh
« Last Edit: July 07, 2016, 03:52:40 PM by zoidberg »
Global Moderator Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 13,251 mmmmm SAKrelicious
Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #78 on: July 07, 2016, 03:54:05 PM »
Mags is a Mod now?!
:ahhh  :ahhh

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Run!

Congrats Mags!
I was like, "Oh @#$#!" and then I was like, "it's ok, Mags is cool"

:rofl:

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I was cool, and then they made me do that Jason Bourne trauma treatment and now I am Modgentus. Who knows what I'll do....

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #79 on: July 07, 2016, 03:56:07 PM »
modgy...  :rofl:
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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #80 on: July 07, 2016, 03:57:13 PM »
LOL!

Nate

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #81 on: July 07, 2016, 03:59:26 PM »
Mags is a Mod now?!
:ahhh  :ahhh

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Run!

Congrats Mags!
I was like, "Oh @#$#!" and then I was like, "it's ok, Mags is cool"

:rofl:

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LOL! I used to think the samething about JD, then everytime I turn around he threatens to ban me, again. LOL!

Nate

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #82 on: July 07, 2016, 04:02:21 PM »
Mags is a Mod now?!
:ahhh  :ahhh

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Run!

Congrats Mags!
I was like, "Oh @#$#!" and then I was like, "it's ok, Mags is cool"

:rofl:

Sent from my SM-G920R4 using Tapatalk
LOL! I used to think the samething about JD, then everytime I turn around he threatens to ban me, again. LOL!

Nate
Don't make me come round there!

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #83 on: July 07, 2016, 04:04:52 PM »
This is all getting very much off topic!

Where are the MODS  >:D

 :D

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #84 on: July 07, 2016, 04:06:10 PM »
Mags is a Mod now?!
:ahhh  :ahhh

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Run!

Congrats Mags!
I was like, "Oh @#$#!" and then I was like, "it's ok, Mags is cool"

:rofl:

Sent from my SM-G920R4 using Tapatalk
LOL! I used to think the samething about JD, then everytime I turn around he threatens to ban me, again. LOL!

Nate
Don't make me come round there!
Haha!

Nate

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #85 on: July 07, 2016, 04:07:36 PM »
I'm eating toast.
Global Moderator Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 13,251 mmmmm SAKrelicious
Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #86 on: July 07, 2016, 04:10:01 PM »
This is all getting very much off topic!

Where are the MODS  >:D

 :D
Keep on topic please everyone!

What is on your toast please ZMan?

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #87 on: July 07, 2016, 04:11:21 PM »
Mags is a Mod now?!
:ahhh  :ahhh

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Run!

Congrats Mags!
I was like, "Oh @#$#!" and then I was like, "it's ok, Mags is cool"

:rofl:

Sent from my SM-G920R4 using Tapatalk
I was cool, and then they made me do that Jason Bourne trauma treatment and now I am Modgentus. Who knows what I'll do....
:ahhh

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K-Tibbs
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 17,433 Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over.
Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #88 on: July 07, 2016, 04:17:32 PM »
This is all getting very much off topic!

Where are the MODS  >:D

 :D
Keep on topic please everyone!

What is on your toast please ZMan?
The MTO way.

Nate

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Re: Why I Don't Like Alox
« Reply #89 on: July 07, 2016, 04:17:38 PM »
This is all getting very much off topic!

Where are the MODS  >:D

 :D
Keep on topic please everyone!

What is on your toast please ZMan?

 :rofl:

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