Building an AR15 for Wild Hogs

[Etherealicer]

WARNING THREAD DEARAILMENT

Everytime I see this thread I think... why? Aren't wild hogs dangerous enough without weapons

[SAK Guy]

WARNING THREAD DEARAILMENT

Everytime I see this thread I think... why? Aren't wild hogs dangerous enough without weapons

 

[shark_za]

And the 6x45 aka the .25-45 Sharps has a strong following down here in Africa for Impala and small game in the bushveld.
It would be an option for me too; I know two guys who got Zastava mini mauser actions and built customs in 6x45 for this exact purpose.

Wow, that's pretty cool that it is already a proven round. It is a really interesting new option for the AR15 platform, for sure. Velocity is the same (essentially) as the .223 but with bigger, heavier bullets. Hard to knock that type of performance

To be fair the 6x45 is the same idea but using .243 bullets. Not to the same pressures as the .25-45 Sharps and loaded down to about 2400fps with a 100gr bullet.
Perfect for small game as there is little bruising that you usually get with a .243 Win at shorter ranges.

[rdub934]

And the 6x45 aka the .25-45 Sharps has a strong following down here in Africa for Impala and small game in the bushveld.
It would be an option for me too; I know two guys who got Zastava mini mauser actions and built customs in 6x45 for this exact purpose.

Wow, that's pretty cool that it is already a proven round. It is a really interesting new option for the AR15 platform, for sure. Velocity is the same (essentially) as the .223 but with bigger, heavier bullets. Hard to knock that type of performance

To be fair the 6x45 is the same idea but using .243 bullets. Not to the same pressures as the .25-45 Sharps and loaded down to about 2400fps with a 100gr bullet.
Perfect for small game as there is little bruising that you usually get with a .243 Win at shorter ranges.

Fair enough. I can see that being ideal for impala. Aren't they usually no bigger than about 150lbs? The sharps is 3000fps, with a 87gr bullet, so yeah, I'd guess it's higher pressure

[Humppa]

Go with the .308Win.

It is an allaround caliber. I´m no hunter. That being said. But I know that this round can be used from deer to wild boar. So IMO it will also kill these strange looking wild hogs (as they are house-hogs that is so weird... here in Germany the real Wild Boars a plague and are more dangerous and heavier, I suppose).

The .308 Win will give you a wide arrangemend on bullets and factory-food for the gun. Even with hunting bullets. It has low recoil.

But if you really want a hog-hammer - I´d go with the .30-06 or 8x57IS (which I´m a big big fan of).

These animals can be dangerous. So I would stay away from .223 and .243. As well as from the .300 Blackout or the 6mm Grendel. Generally I would stay away from these short-cased rounds. I doubt they will bring as much energy/pressure as a bigger brass casing.

[ironraven]

Generally I would stay away from these short-cased rounds. I doubt they will bring as much energy/pressure as a bigger brass casing.

Well....

This is the same class as the 7.62x39 and .30-30. The only black bear I've ever taken was a .30-30, my grandfather took plenty of bear and deer and maybe a moose or three with it (moose wasn't legal back then  ). And I'm pretty sure I could do a piggy with the heavy .223 load my brother has taken his last three deer with- single shot each time, no customer complaints. I also know several guys who hunt deer with 7.62x39 and a few with 6.8 SPC. Talking about deer might not be quite fair, but a bear has more mass and I'd take .300 AAC for black bear.

My other grandfather, while he was in africa, took several large carnivorous reptiles on various occasions with either a .38 S&W or a P-38, and I'll lay even money on a croc being tougher than a hog.

[rdub934]

Generally I would stay away from these short-cased rounds. I doubt they will bring as much energy/pressure as a bigger brass casing.

Well....

This is the same class as the 7.62x39 and .30-30. The only black bear I've ever taken was a .30-30, my grandfather took plenty of bear and deer and maybe a moose or three with it (moose wasn't legal back then  ). And I'm pretty sure I could do a piggy with the heavy .223 load my brother has taken his last three deer with- single shot each time, no customer complaints. I also know several guys who hunt deer with 7.62x39 and a few with 6.8 SPC. Talking about deer might not be quite fair, but a bear has more mass and I'd take .300 AAC for black bear.

My other grandfather, while he was in africa, took several large carnivorous reptiles on various occasions with either a .38 S&W or a P-38, and I'll lay even money on a croc being tougher than a hog.

Yep. A lot of big, feral hogs are getting taken with short-cased rounds fired from AR15s these days. That's the reason I listed the rounds I did; they were developed with hunting deer-class game. The 6.8SPC and .300BLK seem to be the most popular.

[PTRSAK]

Can't believe nobody has bent this thread in this direction yet...

[Grant Lamontagne]

They could have used a couple of AR 15's.  Lukily John Travolta had an MP600.

Def

[rdub934]

Can't believe nobody has bent this thread in this direction yet...


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someone should have called in an air strike on this movie

[Toolslinger]

Can't believe nobody has bent this thread in this direction yet...


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someone should have called in an air strike on this movie

Now that's how you hunt hogs! One good run from an A-10 Warthog (oh, the irony!) for the win.

Of course, there wouldn't be much left...

[strmliner]

I have to mirror what Alan said- as I was reading your post I was thinking .308 myself and I was a bit disappointed when it wasn't on your list.

It sounds like you've more or less made up your mind on the 6.8 SPC and you do certainly make good arguments for it.  Frankly I consider 300 yards to be about 200 yards more than I'll ever need as I rarely take a shot at more than 75-100, but maybe your aim is better than mine. 

Def

+1 On the 308 (or bigger)! We have a ton of hogs in Texas.....they regularly root up my back 40 and travel in packs of 20+. 

Read this a while back and it seems pertinent.
https://www.biggamelogic.com/ArticlesNews/tabid/136/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/563/AMERICAN-WILD-BOARS.aspx

Great article SG!     I had to read it due to having been in a long conversation with a guy at a 4th BBQ this week.  He was telling me about how he and his buddies use dogs and an 8" knife to hunt hogs in central California. 

Even in my younger days, I didn't have the cajones to jump on the back of a 200lb hog/boar and stick it in the heart with just a knife!   

Years ago we hunted Javelinas in Arizona, but I used a .30-.30 lever gun backed-up with a 45 Colt SAA.  I definitely wasn't going to jump on one...

[SAK Guy]

I have to mirror what Alan said- as I was reading your post I was thinking .308 myself and I was a bit disappointed when it wasn't on your list.

It sounds like you've more or less made up your mind on the 6.8 SPC and you do certainly make good arguments for it.  Frankly I consider 300 yards to be about 200 yards more than I'll ever need as I rarely take a shot at more than 75-100, but maybe your aim is better than mine. 

Def

+1 On the 308 (or bigger)! We have a ton of hogs in Texas.....they regularly root up my back 40 and travel in packs of 20+. 

Read this a while back and it seems pertinent.
https://www.biggamelogic.com/ArticlesNews/tabid/136/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/563/AMERICAN-WILD-BOARS.aspx

Great article SG!     I had to read it due to having been in a long conversation with a guy at a 4th BBQ this week.  He was telling me about how he and his buddies use dogs and an 8" knife to hunt hogs in central California. 

Even in my younger days, I didn't have the cajones to jump on the back of a 200lb hog/boar and stick it in the heart with just a knife!   

Years ago we hunted Javelinas in Arizona, but I used a .30-.30 lever gun backed-up with a 45 Colt SAA.  I definitely wasn't going to jump on one...

LOL!! Great combo...much better than a knife. 

[kirk13]

Now,getting back to that pizza Def mentioned...

Spinach,egg and black olives please!

[PTRSAK]

now I want Pizza

[rdub934]

Can't believe nobody has bent this thread in this direction yet...


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someone should have called in an air strike on this movie

Now that's how you hunt hogs! One good run from an A-10 Warthog (oh, the irony!) for the win.

Of course, there wouldn't be much left...

It probably wouldn't cause as much damage as the hogs, though.

[rdub934]

I have to mirror what Alan said- as I was reading your post I was thinking .308 myself and I was a bit disappointed when it wasn't on your list.

It sounds like you've more or less made up your mind on the 6.8 SPC and you do certainly make good arguments for it.  Frankly I consider 300 yards to be about 200 yards more than I'll ever need as I rarely take a shot at more than 75-100, but maybe your aim is better than mine. 

Def

+1 On the 308 (or bigger)! We have a ton of hogs in Texas.....they regularly root up my back 40 and travel in packs of 20+. 

Read this a while back and it seems pertinent.
https://www.biggamelogic.com/ArticlesNews/tabid/136/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/563/AMERICAN-WILD-BOARS.aspx

Great article SG!     I had to read it due to having been in a long conversation with a guy at a 4th BBQ this week.  He was telling me about how he and his buddies use dogs and an 8" knife to hunt hogs in central California. 

Even in my younger days, I didn't have the cajones to jump on the back of a 200lb hog/boar and stick it in the heart with just a knife!   

Years ago we hunted Javelinas in Arizona, but I used a .30-.30 lever gun backed-up with a 45 Colt SAA.  I definitely wasn't going to jump on one...

LOL!! Great combo...much better than a knife. 

Until I get my AR built (I thought 15, but looking like it'll be a 10 thanks to you guys ) I will be using my Marlin 336 it's a great gun and well suited, I think, to shooting feral pigs. Not as fast for follow-ups as an AR would be, but I am pretty fast with my trusty lever gun

I have seen some videos of dudes killing wild hogs with knives - they be loco. Or maybe 

[Chako]

I might be tempted to use the Cold Steel boar spear hanging on my wall. A knife...smurf no!

[Toolslinger]

Can't believe nobody has bent this thread in this direction yet...


(Image removed from quote.)

someone should have called in an air strike on this movie

Now that's how you hunt hogs! One good run from an A-10 Warthog (oh, the irony!) for the win.

Of course, there wouldn't be much left...

It probably wouldn't cause as much damage as the hogs, though.

I was thinking not much left of the hogs... but yes, the hogs and the A-10 would be competing for property damage.

[Grant Lamontagne]

That's the traditional method of hunting hogs in South America, but they need some really smurfing amazing dogs to do it with.

If you've ever experienced a dogo Argentino up close them you know what I'm talking about.

I had one for years and I miss him every day.  Best dog I've ever had bar none.  The photo is to show what they look like, not a photo of mine.

Def

[Grant Lamontagne]

This one was mine.

Def

[ironraven]

I would hunt boar with spear and short sword. A boar, singular, quantity one (1). Problem is, they like to hang out in groups.

[SAK Guy]

Can't believe nobody has bent this thread in this direction yet...


(Image removed from quote.)

someone should have called in an air strike on this movie

Now that's how you hunt hogs! One good run from an A-10 Warthog (oh, the irony!) for the win.

Of course, there wouldn't be much left...

It probably wouldn't cause as much damage as the hogs, though.

I have patches on the back 40 that look like that.....

[rdub934]

+1 On the 308 (or bigger)! We have a ton of hogs in Texas.....they regularly root up my back 40 and travel in packs of 20+. 

Read this a while back and it seems pertinent.
https://www.biggamelogic.com/ArticlesNews/tabid/136/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/563/AMERICAN-WILD-BOARS.aspx

Wow, that was a really good read! The author definitely has a lot of respect for these animals. I hope I can get in good with some seasoned hunters when I get down to Louisiana at the end of the month, because I like to learn from the experience of others and save myself the hardship but seriously, I have always been curious about hunting wild boar, ever since my dad tried his hand at it in Turkey when I was just a kid. He didn't get one, but they happened upon a dead one in the mountains and his guide gave him the tusks - 6 inches long, I kid you not. I was blown away when I saw them.

[rdub934]

Can't believe nobody has bent this thread in this direction yet...


(Image removed from quote.)

someone should have called in an air strike on this movie

Now that's how you hunt hogs! One good run from an A-10 Warthog (oh, the irony!) for the win.

Of course, there wouldn't be much left...

It probably wouldn't cause as much damage as the hogs, though.

I have patches on the back 40 that look like that.....

That is wild. I really had no idea that caused SO MUCH damage until I began researching feral hogs recently. I always just assumed farmers hated them for eating their crops. But they do so much more damage than just eating, don't they? I mean, a pasture like that would be easy for cattle to break legs in. They urinate and defecate all over hay and feed for livestock. They drive away native species and badly damage habitat. They are truly menaces

[SAK Guy]

Can't believe nobody has bent this thread in this direction yet...


(Image removed from quote.)

someone should have called in an air strike on this movie

Now that's how you hunt hogs! One good run from an A-10 Warthog (oh, the irony!) for the win.

Of course, there wouldn't be much left...

It probably wouldn't cause as much damage as the hogs, though.

I have patches on the back 40 that look like that.....

That is wild. I really had no idea that caused SO MUCH damage until I began researching feral hogs recently. I always just assumed farmers hated them for eating their crops. But they do so much more damage than just eating, don't they? I mean, a pasture like that would be easy for cattle to break legs in. They urinate and defecate all over hay and feed for livestock. They drive away native species and badly damage habitat. They are truly menaces

Yeah, they just ruin everything. We don't go anywhere on the place, outside the front/barnyard, without a rifle in the truck.

This one was bagged about 20 min away from us. 


http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/outdoors/article/Nearly-800-pound-hog-caught-in-Texas-6043871.php

[rdub934]

That pig is enormous. Yikes

[Grant Lamontagne]

That is a smurf load of bacon.  This is one of many reasons why overkill is important with an animal like that, as is a quick, clean kill.  You don't want to take chances with something that big and powerful. 

Timon may not be around to wins with him and Pumba might start singing "Hakuna matata my ass! I'm going to smurf you up!"

Def

[SAK Guy]

These are from Plaska Lodge a big hunting ranch up in the Texas panhandle (rdub...look at the last hunter's gun)




http://www.plaskalodge.com/hog-hunting-texas-boar-hunts-pigs-trophy-large-hogs-lodge-ranch.html


I saw an article somewhere where a Texas Parks and Wildlife guy was talking about hogs over 1000lbs. Still looking for it.

[kirk13]

now I want Pizza

 

My work here is done!