Flasher I hope you score I really like the Pro( grey ha ha) I got for fathers day (I have a KF4 as well). I did not think I would like the Juice models as I thought they would be like the Squirt range , ie toy like.To me, much better than my SAK's as not much bigger with the big bonus of pliers . One word of warning the pretty color coating scratches really easily my Kf4 has become quite scratched . The Pro is holding up well as it came with a sheath, its scissors are ace much better than some of the full sized LM's scissors.Good luck mate.