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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #50 on: September 03, 2016, 12:18:42 AM »
This maybe a stupid question but has anyone thought about doing a partnership with a company that edit hardcover books to print the content of the wiki on a yearly basis for instance?
I would buy it and this could be a way to support this forum and the wiki contributors while having good info from SAK specialists. 

I know there are companies which do that for blogs for instance,  and even for your Facebook publications. I believe they take a small fee but maybe a poll would give an idea of the number of people willing to buy such a great encyclopedia

Anyway just a thought

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Books have been brought up several times over the years ( I believe J-Sews and Grant both have made plans for one), but there's just not enough support for them. Printers are expensive, and since the information is already free online, who would be willing to shell out the money to cover the book cost?

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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #51 on: September 03, 2016, 01:36:58 AM »
EDIT2: ...it would be good to group by layer then back then scale tools too. I have a spready that does this let me know if you want me to send it to you for a quick gander
I initially read this to mean you have a chart of which layer each tool is in, so we could put L1 to indicate the blades are in the first layer, then L2 for scissors and L3 for openers on a Climber for example.  I think could be handy for anyone who wanted to custom build discontinued items, or build Franken-knives while using the original orders on similar knives to potentially avoid "hiding" nail-nicks, etc.  And SOOOO OCD - what's not to like  ::).
Or did you just mean a simple list of whether each tool is layer / scale / back?  If so then I think we have that covered now (Phillis and fine screwdriver being a bit special because they appear in multiple places...), but let me know if you think the grouping / ordering should be changed.

Hi LT,
Looks really good - Enki's suggestion on the caps really makes the vertical lettering much easier to read - Well done both  :tu:

Sorry for the confusion.
What I meant was that in the existing tables you just group the layer tools together, the backspring tools together, then the scale tools together.
I think this will make it much, much easier to read

So for instance the three layer table would be LB, SmB, PrB, SerB, Tec SD, BO, CO, Comb, Sc, WS, MS, Pl, CT, Fl, MG,        Ph,       CS, Aw, H, Fine, Ch, Mini       Tp, Tw, Pin, Pen, Alti,    KR
I put the Tec SD next to the SmB/PrB as it usually replaces them; the MG at the end of the Layers, next  to the Phillips as they usually sit together, and the Ph can be a layer or a back spring; also the Fl is next to the MG as they are sometimes together, and near the Ph; I just stuck the KR at the end (as its not too important ??  :o )
Also as you have already done the tools that replace each other are next to each other - Also if they are in the same layer they are next to/near each other.
Did you say that the Fine SD can be both too? So that could be a problem. Or was that just the Fine SD vs the Tec SD?

Now I definitely know you automate the creation - and as you asked -  I feel I can suggest this  :tu:  :)
And apologies if this contradicts an earlier comment about keeping the Spartan tools together - But this is better  :o   :tu:
The layer order table I would not be so bothered about - Just me !!

I also noticed that the MB and Awl links in the common tools do not work and there is the ~hs~ as you mention - Is that just a space? if so  could it  just be made a real space, as opposed to a space command ???

And there is one more model that could go in the 6 layer table - It is a Handyman variation - Which the Wiki says is a SABI version, but I think could be an older version - So it could be known as Handyman (old) - Anyway the Fish Scaler replaces the pliers.
I could even try this myself - I think adding a row would be easy enough!! Moving column around - No way!!!

As for my changes - Tiny - compared to LT's magic
  • I have updated the Cybertool headings to mention S,M,L  (thereby messing up the links in the first para) - Can any body help - I think it does not like the brackets in the headings ??? I tried a slash too this also did not work  :( 
  • And I updated the Lumberjack details by moving a couple of bits of information from 'variations' to 'history'



Re Books GeeB  - A dump of the WIKI would be good.
As mentioned there have been a few over the years - Some are referenced in the WIKI - Most are out of print I think
Many of us here are waiting for JazzBass's book - which will be just amazing - And way better than a WIKI dump

JB is probably our most knowledgeable member when it comes to history, models and variations of SAKs

PS. Why is your name G.B when your flag is French !! :o  ;)
« Last Edit: September 03, 2016, 01:55:58 AM by Huntsman »
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #52 on: September 03, 2016, 06:14:54 AM »
PS. Tool sequence to be the same in all layer tables ......... of course ..........  ;)  :o  :D
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #53 on: September 03, 2016, 09:59:04 AM »
And there is one more model that could go in the 6 layer table - It is a Handyman variation - Which the Wiki says is a SABI version, but I think could be an older version - So it could be known as Handyman (old) - Anyway the Fish Scaler replaces the pliers.
I could even try this myself - I think adding a row would be easy enough!! Moving column around - No way!!!


Lots of good ideas in there that I'll think about.

Be careful with small edits to the tables since a bulk update (more will be coming to fix the ~hs~, etc...) of the tables will trample on any local edit there, so if knives are missing then adding them to the Wiki pages is the way to go.  I'll periodically refresh the data from those pages.  Pages that describe multiple knives (Cybertool, Champion, etc) are special because they can't easily be parsed, so I do have to manage the knife / tool data for those manually.  So maybe that is the way to handle notable knife variants like the "Handyman (Old)"- I can add a "special" row for  as if it were a second knife on the Handyman page.  Maybe we could invent a way to "encode" those variants so they can all be picked up, "Handyman (Old): ADD Scaler; REMOVE Pliers - Interesting notes".  Sounds complicated already...

Changing the ordering isn't too hard.  As per your next post there is a master list of left-right order, currently around the Spartan -> Champ -> Other model but it can be anything.  I tried a couple of variants but there always seemd to be an outlier that made several choices good but not perfect.  I'll take a look at what you suggest to see if it snaps into place  :tu:.

The ~hs~ thing is odd.  It works if placed in a page "locally" but seems to not do so if using the INCLUDE magic.  I'll swap them for standard spaces, or HTML <nb> which might work.
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #54 on: September 03, 2016, 10:20:41 AM »
As for my changes
  • I have updated the Cybertool headings to mention S,M,L  (thereby messing up the links in the first para) - Can any body help - I think it does not like the brackets in the headings ??? I tried a slash too this also did not work  :( 


Using F12 on the normal page view (not edit) in IE shows that TikiWIki turns the section heading into...
Code: [Select]
<h2 class="showhide_heading" id="CyberTool_29_S_">CyberTool 29&nbsp;(S)</h2>
EDIT: You can see the same id by hovering over the auto-generated contents links on the page.

So using
Code: [Select]
[#Cybertool_29_S_|Cybertool 29 (S)], as the Wiki code seems to work.

I guess the algorithm is something like turn all non-text characters into underscore, and compress multiple ones to single: Cybertool 29 (S) ->Cybertool_29__S_ -> Cybertool_29_S_
« Last Edit: September 03, 2016, 11:13:55 AM by Little Tinker »
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #55 on: September 03, 2016, 11:51:31 AM »
Might I suggest adding an index somewhere at the beginning of the page that explains the abbreviations used? Or did I miss it? I understand that L  means the tool is found as inside the SAK, aka a layered tool, S stands for scale tool, B stands for back layer tool, but the occasional browser of SAKwiki might not know that.

Just a thought :D
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #56 on: September 03, 2016, 12:35:18 PM »
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #57 on: September 03, 2016, 12:39:22 PM »
Might I suggest adding an index somewhere at the beginning of the page that explains the abbreviations used? Or did I miss it? I understand that L  means the tool is found as inside the SAK, aka a layered tool, S stands for scale tool, B stands for back layer tool, but the occasional browser of SAKwiki might not know that.

Just a thought :D

Yes, that is needed  :salute:.  I was also going to add a "This table updated 2 Aug 2016" tag to help explain if the tables and other Wiki content drift out of sync.

Can we think of anything else  ????
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #58 on: September 03, 2016, 07:58:54 PM »
I'll address the sakselektor question when I'm a bit more awake. ;)

Shall we pick that up in the sticky-ed thread  :pok:?
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #59 on: September 07, 2016, 09:28:04 AM »
Hi Folks

Well I have been tinkering away again and here are the latest updates

I have restructured the Introductory, Tools, Variations and History sections of the Cybertool, Champion, Craftsman, Handyman and Lumberjack pages with the simple objective of making them more readable and easy to use. (For instance  resolving some difficulties/confusion I had when I was first using the Wiki). I have not changed the overall content at all.

I think these changes make it a lot better and hope you agree – Let me know either way.
I will also say up front I really hope these changes will not bu88er up all the great work Little Tinker is doing with the layer/tool pages – Although I think these pages are treated as special cases anyway, and he’s so clever, that even if it does, I am sure he will resolve it!

Here’s what I did - Same types of changes for all the models mentioned above

Introductory Paragraph
These paragraphs are often a ‘stream of consciousness’ containing loads of information and not always so easy to read. I have turned them into a few paragraphs and sometimes moved more detailed information to the other sections, as the first para should just be high level.

Tools sections
All the WIKI pages for these SAKs have different models or versions of that SAK in the Wiki page. I have restructured the tools sections so that you can clearly see the similarities and differences between all the model variations.  Prior to the changes this was not so easy – especially to a new WIKI/SAK user. I could explain how I did this – But it’s best just to go and check it out!! – Say for the Champion .

History/Variations Sections
I found these sections a little jumbled up so used this logic to build the sections.
  • If the ‘variation’ is a special edition of the model – Eg An anniversary edition, special scale versions, a commemorative edition – It goes in the 'Variations' section
  • If the change/variation is a historical change (or series of changes) to the tool over time – I put it in the 'History' section
Again I could try and explain this here – But it’s easiest just to go and check – Say the Craftsman .

That’s it for the restructuring!!

A couple of other changes.
  • The WIKI pages talk about the Champion a,b,c – But nowhere does it explain what these are!! I am pretty sure this is just a naming convention made up by the WIKI editors – So I put a couple of notes explaining what they are in the Champion intro paragraph.
  • There are four piccies of Craftsmen now moved to the Craftsman 'History' section which had very odd captions. I remember pouring over these piccies in the early days trying to work out the differences – So I added a few comments to the captions that outline some of the differences
That really is it!! Let me know id you have any feedback.
I hope this is OK with y'all and I have not offended or messed up any current or previous editors' work

Oh - Very pleased with myself on the MTo editing front too - As I have learnt how to hide a URL under a  Reference.

And there is one more model that could go in the 6 layer table - It is a Handyman variation - Which the Wiki says is a SABI version, but I think could be an older version - So it could be known as Handyman (old) - Anyway the Fish Scaler replaces the pliers.
I could even try this myself - I think adding a row would be easy enough!! Moving column around - No way!!!
Lots of good ideas in there that I'll think about.
Be careful with small edits to the tables since a bulk update (more will be coming to fix the ~hs~, etc...) of the tables will trample on any local edit there, so if knives are missing then adding them to the Wiki pages is the way to go ……….

And don’t worry LT – There is no way I am going near those pages whilst you are working your magic!! I just said I could do it not I would do it!!

I was using your new tables recently – And I do really believe they should be grouped into layer, back, scale as I suggested above. It will make it much, much easier to use.
And thanks again for all your great work.

Gotta step back now as this is taking way too much time!!!
« Last Edit: September 07, 2016, 10:58:38 AM by Huntsman »
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #60 on: September 07, 2016, 04:02:39 PM »
I agree the last iteration was a bit mangled, but I've a revised order that I've found easier to use which is:
- Spartan tools plus specialist blades ordered layer, back, scales;
- Followed by remaining tools ordered same way.

Would that work for you?
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #61 on: September 07, 2016, 04:32:15 PM »
I still think grouping all the layer, then back, then scales, tools together works best - Something like:

LB, SmB, PruB, SerB, Tec SD, BO, CO, Comb, Sc, WoodS, MetalS, Fish, Pliers, Cyber, Flash, Mag, ElecB, Spatch, Divot, , Lighter        Phil,       CorkS, Aw, Hook, Fine, Ch, Mini       Tp, Tw, Pin, Pen, Alti,    KR

Maybe we need to make two Phillips (back + in line) for ease of making the table

In my own personal excel db (which is a rework of Detrons spready)  I have something like this order:
LB, SmB, , BO, CO, , Sc, WoodS, MetalS, Fish, Mag, Phil (inline),  Pliers,Flash , PruB, SerB, , ElecB,  Comb, Divot, Tec SD,  Cyber,Spatch, , Pharm, Lighter            Aw,  CorkS, Phil,  Hook, Fine, Ch, Mini       Tp, Tw, Pin, Pen, Alti,    KR
So Layer - Back - Scales
In the layer section: The Swiss Champ tools set first -then the other blades, then the other half tools, then the more obsure ones  I find it works pretty well

Who would have thought this would be so Hard!!  :o

Anyone else any thoughts????
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #62 on: September 07, 2016, 06:36:29 PM »
I just took a peek at the SAKWiki, it looks fantastic guys! Keep up the good work :2tu:

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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #63 on: September 08, 2016, 08:38:24 AM »
Couple of other wee comments.

In the second sequence suggestion above - For the layer section (and actually also the back and scales sections too)
The sequence is actually:
Spartan Tools - Swiss Champ tools  -then the other blades - then the other half tools - then the more obsure ones

If you build it this way you get more of the the 'tool present' markers in the table grouped together towards the left of the table section, In other words as you move from left to right - you move from more common to less common
 - Ie Nearly all (EDIT: tools ) SAKS have the Spartan toolset, most have the scissors, many have one or more of the Swisschamp tool set, few have the obscure blades/tools typically just the XLT, XAVT etc
- This I feel makes it easier to use
Does that make sense? Or at least have I explained it clearly ???
Actually why am I trying to explain it  ??? - Pictures speak louder than words - I attach a picture of an extract from my spready below
The shaded vertical lines are the Spartan tool set !!

Anyway I'll shut up now  ::)  :o  :D
« Last Edit: September 08, 2016, 09:29:58 AM by Huntsman »
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #64 on: September 08, 2016, 11:14:12 AM »
I've put a new order in the tables.  Still slightly different to what you propose, but closer.  I wasn't ignoring you though - just didn't have time to try it out before rebuilding.

I've also added a master tool-to-knife page for Victorinix, and added the relevant list to Altimeter and Chisel tool pages.

As ever, things to sort out remain but comments invited.
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #65 on: September 08, 2016, 10:18:37 PM »
Would it be at all useful to put this in the Wiki somewhere, which shows how you can move from Spartan to SwissChamp adding one tool layer at a time amongst the knives in the Victorinox  2015 catalogue? Or maybe an expanded version showing discontinued knives as well (which could get messy!)?
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« Reply #66 on: September 09, 2016, 12:06:40 PM »
I noticed I had some different model of scissors and stamping on my few 74mm:
  • pre-1975 Windsor (pre 1980 stamping, pre-1975 scissors)
  • 1975-1980 Windsor (pre-1980 stamping and post-1975 new grind and V spring)
  • 1990 Moneyclip (scissors with screw, so pre-1991, but with grooved handle and V-spring with cam so post 1990)
  • 2005-2007 Moneyclip (post 2005 stamping, 1991-2007 scissors: steel pivot)
  • 1990 Ambassador (1975-1990 scissors, 1980-1990 stampings)
So here is the table to help dating other 74mm :)
Not sure how to put this into SAKwiki, i can upload the full-res picture to the gallery, but the table should be remastered

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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #67 on: September 09, 2016, 10:50:59 PM »
Would it be at all useful to put this in the Wiki somewhere, which shows how you can move from Spartan to SwissChamp adding one tool layer at a time amongst the knives in the Victorinox  2015 catalogue? Or maybe an expanded version showing discontinued knives as well (which could get messy!)?

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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #68 on: September 10, 2016, 04:28:07 AM »
Hi LT

Great work - That new sequence is much, much better - Brilliant - Thank you

OK Feedback time - Apologies in advance - Some of this is really anal!!
  • My preference is still the sequence I discuss above (all L,B,S together and within that Spartan, Champ, others)  - But that's just me. If you do leave it as it is now - One change I would make is to swap the position of the CS and Phillips - So that all the L's and B's are together in that section
  • The hyperlinks to Champions and Cybertools don't work - That probably was me - Sorry  :(
  • The hyperlinks to mainblade and awl and small blade don't work
  • The list of 'common to all' tools would be better with commas - This is really OCD  :twak: !!!
  • For the six + layer table I don't think you need the extra text saying how many layers is in the SAK - It's in the table above - So unneccessarily doubles the depth of the table
  • The tool to model reference is brilliant - I always wanted one of those - I would be tempted not to bother with those tables for the Spartan toolset  - As the tables are so big (eg check out the keyring!!) and pretty much all SAKS have the Spartan tool set, but the rest are really, really useful 
  • The Cyberbits related SAKs table - Should probably be the Cybertool not the bits
  • Love the family tree too - Really nice - Really useful - That could go somewhere on the tools main page, or better still the page of 91mm (and 84mm) SAKs that does not have the layers ?? Someone else here did one of those with all the models, and as you say it was pretty complex - So I think your curent model one works best - And you can always cross reference a current model to an older model if you will
  • M47 - Re the scissor dating tables - I was planning to upload my tool dating spreadsheet into a new section in the tools main page - So it would fit nicely there - I will make a separate post about that!!

I think that's it

Thanks again LT for the awesome work - And please don't take all my anal comments personally !!  :o   :tu:
« Last Edit: September 10, 2016, 04:55:03 AM by Huntsman »
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #69 on: September 11, 2016, 09:36:28 AM »
First of all, I just wanna thank all contributers to the wiki, I'm on there reading all the time. Great job already even with the to-do list of things being discussed.

If nobody has mentioned, I didn't see anything about the 2 different mini screwdriver shapes on the page for that tool. (Old rounded and newer hex)

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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #70 on: September 11, 2016, 12:10:55 PM »
Thanks for all the support and feedback.  It helps me find the time and energy to keep tinkering  :D.  It's all very constructive and welcome  :tu:.


My preference is still the sequence I discuss above (all L,B,S together and within that Spartan, Champ, others)  - But that's just me. If you do leave it as it is now - One change I would make is to swap the position of the CS and Phillips - So that all the L's and B's are together in that section
I'm not averse to that, just prioritising other stuff  :P.  I'll revise it again and we can gather views afterwards.

The hyperlinks to Champions and Cybertools don't work - That probably was me - Sorry  :(
No, probably me.  The multi-knife pages expose a few quirks in the way I built the data.  I'm planning to address it  :salute:.
The hyperlinks to mainblade and awl and small blade don't work
Well spotted.  That's me tangling up simple names and page names  :oops:.
The list of 'common to all' tools would be better with commas - This is really OCD  :twak: !!!
Good idea.  I also don't like the simple string of names  :tu:.
For the six + layer table I don't think you need the extra text saying how many layers is in the SAK - It's in the table above - So unneccessarily doubles the depth of the table
I'm in two minds about having it.  It's got the wrong numbers at the moment anyway, so I'll simply remove for now  ;).  Shall we keep the upper table, and start filling in more of the info (but remove the Philips / Corkscrew columns  :-\?
The tool to model reference is brilliant - I always wanted one of those - I would be tempted not to bother with those tables for the Spartan toolset  - As the tables are so big (eg check out the keyring!!) and pretty much all SAKS have the Spartan tool set, but the rest are really, really useful 
They all get generated automatically at the mo.  I wasn't planning to put ones that are unhelpfully large onto the tool page, for the reasons that you suggest.  I'll take a look at filtering them out of the master table as well, or moving them to the end as a "well, if you really want to know" section  :whistle:.
The Cyberbits related SAKs table - Should probably be the Cybertool not the bits
Another artefact of the way the data was parsed form the current Wiki knife pages.  My preference would be to define "Cyber Set A" and "Cyber Set B" for the two sets of 4 bits, and reference these as included to show the differentiation  :-\.
Love the family tree too - Really nice - Really useful - That could go somewhere on the tools main page, or better still the page of 91mm (and 84mm) SAKs that does not have the layers ?? Someone else here did one of those with all the models, and as you say it was pretty complex - So I think your curent model one works best - And you can always cross reference a current model to an older model if you will
I'll upload the diagram and we can work out where to position it  :tu:.
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #71 on: September 20, 2016, 08:49:03 AM »
OK SAK fans

Help needed please......

1. One thing the WIKI is sadly lacking is dates - Can anyone help?
- For instance when a model came out and when it was discontinued.
We have a History section where this could go but it is rarely populated
Of course for the longer running knives this is a little complex eg The Climber - previously was the Traveller, prior to that a numeric model no etc etc
But for some others it could be simpler ???
If anyone has any information on dates for models please put it here (and we will update) - or in the Wiki if you are an editor
I will be popping my tool dating spready into the tools section in the near future - So that will help with dating the tools

2. From the very generic to the very specific - Is the 'Luxury Automobile - Special' a real SAK ???
There is the three layer Automobile which is well defined - There is also the three layer Automobile Special, which is also well defined.
Although rather unfortunately named, if you ask me, as it is more of a thinner Grand Prix
We have the 5 layer Luxury Automobile - Also well defined
Then in the 5 layer index page there is a knife called the 'Luxury Automobile - Special' - The link takes you to the Luxury Automobile - But there is nothing in that page to describe that SAK. The layer index page indicates that it has a Phillips not a corkscrew - But that is all -
Does it really exist ??- If so I will update the Lux Auto page with this description (ie Lux. Auto swapping corks. for Ph.)
If not can we get rid of it in the index page??

My latest updates:
  • Re-ordered the Swiss Buck Model List from alphabetical - to Layers within Length, then alpa
    - If you are a SAKWIKI user trying to find a knife (eg just bought off evilbay) - you will more than likely know it's length, and # layers, but not it's name - so the table will work much better for you now.
    BTW - I had a big, big fight with the wiki table - But got there in the end, and it looks great now
  • On going reformatting of the Related Knives section (orphaned bulets and icons)
  • Revised the Spartan intro paragraph (  :o very brave, for such an iconic SAK !!) - Is it OK?
Any comments, feedback, suggestions, requests - Let me know  :tu:
« Last Edit: September 20, 2016, 08:53:14 AM by Huntsman »
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #72 on: September 25, 2016, 04:42:40 PM »
Well not too many responses to that post !!  :o  ;)

On the Luxury Automobile Special - I think I might answer my own question.
I searched the net and could not find any references to it anywhere - Not in Smart Knives or a few blogs (some from our people - eg LeaF, Stressmaster) or anywhere else.
I think the infamous 'Luxury Autombile Special' is actually the Handyman 7236maU - The toolsets match !
So I am proposing to delete the LAS from the 91mm lists - OK??

In my search I found a very interesting site: Victorinox Enciclopedia
- OK so it's in Italian - But does it look familiar ??? ............ Very familiar ???

Well I thought I had finished my editing - But I don't seem to be able to stop  :facepalm:
Discovered the Swisstool pages and they needed some work.
Here's what I did ...
Split up the intro para a bit; Put the individual common tools in the 'Handles section' in a nice bulleted list - in line with the rest of SAKWIKI; Created a new section for the models, and their tool variations (best bit  :)); Converted the 'Removable Tools' section from a 'stream of consciousness' to a nice bulleted list; Tidied up the variations section.
Now you can clearly and easily see which tools are in which models, and the differences between the models  :salute:
And similar changes for the Spirit.

As always:
Any comments, feedback, suggestions, requests, criticisms - Let me know   :tu:
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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #73 on: September 25, 2016, 09:28:41 PM »
I think the availability dates would be handy as well.  Small wrinkle perhaps that they seem to be region related sometimes though.

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Re: Been doing some work in the WIKI
« Reply #74 on: October 09, 2016, 09:41:27 PM »
I was trying to unbreak links toward SOSAK on the Soldier 1961 sakwiki page...
I could find the WaffenKontrolle article on SwissArmyKnights,
but for "Soldier Variants" only found this :
Soldier variants, part 2
and an old broken cache of the original post
I found this (in french)
This pic is great too, but would need a legend)


So, HELP  :angel:


 

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