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Dating My Collection

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us Offline ThundahBeagle

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Re: Dating My Collection
Reply #60 on: April 11, 2024, 09:02:09 PM
Nice collection, by the way.  Like you, some of the most interesting stuff I have is from flea markets or something I've been to hell and back with.

The tang stamps are helpful in date coding but are definitely not the only thing to look at.  Aside from the tangs, check:

.Scissors pivot pressed or screw (screw prior to 91/92)
.Corkscrew flouted or not (stopped in 70's or early 80's.  Forget off top of my head)
.Large screwdriver /Bottle opener slip lock at 90° or not
.Whether or not the multi hook exists (91 or 92 and newer)
.Keyring - is attachment a shim, or does it fill a layer?  Obviously a bail is even older.
.Height of layer division shims
.Backside Philips: does it have a can key slot or not? (80's to 92?)
.Bottle opener or Can opener metal finish in the craw area.  (Older ones sometimes not so smooth, usually pre-1980's
.Cellidor scales, when removed, are more solid on older ones
.Tweezers handle material, metal or plastic.  I dont tend to use that as the tweezers can be easily moved from one knife to another.  But if everything else adds up old and the tweezer handle it metal, it's more of a confirmation

Metal inlays: Many are now hot stamped like more recent L.L. Bean offerings.  Someone else can tell my the TYPE of metal but not me.

For what its worth.  And please correct me if I am wrong



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Re: Dating My Collection
Reply #61 on: April 11, 2024, 09:10:04 PM
^^^  Hmmm - Gotta agree TB

I'd say 92 (hook present) to 99 (locking nub on sd not present  ..... I think)

Thank you sir.  I try to get something right, now and then


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Re: Dating My Collection
Reply #62 on: April 16, 2024, 05:31:20 PM
Respectfully, I am curious why you date this Ranger 1986 to 1992? I may be misinformed, I've not been on here in a while. But the scissors pivot and the package hook "all purpose" hook started in or about '91, 92' as I understand it.

Nice collection, by the way.  Like you, some of the most interesting stuff I have is from flea markets or something I've been to hell and back with.

The tang stamps are helpful in date coding but are definitely not the only thing to look at.  Aside from the tangs, check:

.Scissors pivot pressed or screw (screw prior to 91/92)
.Corkscrew flouted or not (stopped in 70's or early 80's.  Forget off top of my head)
.Large screwdriver /Bottle opener slip lock at 90° or not
.Whether or not the multi hook exists (91 or 92 and newer)
.Keyring - is attachment a shim, or does it fill a layer?  Obviously a bail is even older.
.Height of layer division shims
.Backside Philips: does it have a can key slot or not? (80's to 92?)
.Bottle opener or Can opener metal finish in the craw area.  (Older ones sometimes not so smooth, usually pre-1980's
.Cellidor scales, when removed, are more solid on older ones
.Tweezers handle material, metal or plastic.  I dont tend to use that as the tweezers can be easily moved from one knife to another.  But if everything else adds up old and the tweezer handle it metal, it's more of a confirmation

Metal inlays: Many are now hot stamped like more recent L.L. Bean offerings.  Someone else can tell my the TYPE of metal but not me.

For what its worth.  And please correct me if I am wrong

All great information, Thanks! No reason to worry about ruffling feathers, I don't really know what I'm doing regarding the dating - which is why I created this very thread  :D
Annoyingly I can't work out how to edit an old post and change the dates on that post.

^^^  Hmmm - Gotta agree TB

I'd say 92 (hook present) to 99 (locking nub on sd not present  ..... I think)

 :tu: Thanks for the insight mate.



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Re: Dating My Collection
Reply #63 on: May 03, 2024, 10:24:24 PM
Re: Dates - I've just gone by the tangs on them, but have seen experts on reddit point out the tiniest details on tools etc that might hone in my broad predictions. Will see if someone comes along and adds anything.
Modeler: c. ‘83
Climber: ‘87 or ‘88
EcoLine Climber: c.’94
Fieldmaster: ‘00 or ‘01
Spartan: ‘02
Ranger: ‘92 maybe ‘93


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Re: Dating My Collection
Reply #64 on: May 03, 2024, 10:30:27 PM
Waiter
1986 - 1991

‘90 or ‘91.


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Re: Dating My Collection
Reply #65 on: May 15, 2024, 04:48:39 PM
Thanks Black Sunshine, really honed in on some dates there.

I'd be really interested in what you see in them that helps you be so specific.

Some more SAKs have been added to the hoard, pics incoming!


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Re: Dating My Collection
Reply #66 on: May 15, 2024, 05:49:09 PM
Tourist
UBS Metal Inlay
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Fluted Corkscrew
No eye in awl














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Re: Dating My Collection
Reply #67 on: May 16, 2024, 05:11:24 PM
Camper
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No eye in Awl










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Re: Dating My Collection
Reply #68 on: May 16, 2024, 05:24:27 PM
Spartan
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Found with both scales very loose and damaged.
Replaced, with matching colour tools  :)














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Re: Dating My Collection
Reply #69 on: May 16, 2024, 05:31:46 PM
Nice restoration on a rough SAK.  I see you are in the UK.  When you get up in the morning and put on your trousers, what SAK or other pocket tool do you put in a pocket?  You have a lot of nice things, but do you carry any of them?  Best wishes.  G
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Re: Dating My Collection
Reply #70 on: May 16, 2024, 05:42:34 PM
Nice restoration on a rough SAK.  I see you are in the UK.  When you get up in the morning and put on your trousers, what SAK or other pocket tool do you put in a pocket?  You have a lot of nice things, but do you carry any of them?  Best wishes.  G
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Thanks mate, always love a restoration job. It's the second pair of scales I've replaced, happy with the finish.
Next skill to learn will be using sandpaper and polish to restore the scratched up scales/blades I have in some of the others.

I only use 3 of my SAK's

Silver Alox Pioneer X - EDC
Swiss Champ - Jobs in the house
Rambler - EDC (Attached to Keys)




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Re: Dating My Collection
Reply #71 on: May 17, 2024, 01:44:37 AM
Nice restoration job! And I like the awl with no sewing eye. Very likely it was made in or before 1985.
USN 2000-2006

Culling of the knife and multi herds in progress...

If I pay five figures for something, it better have wings or a foundation!


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Re: Dating My Collection
Reply #72 on: May 17, 2024, 08:42:09 AM
Nice work, SAK42!  :cheers:


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Re: Dating My Collection
Reply #73 on: May 17, 2024, 03:46:15 PM
Nice restoration job! And I like the awl with no sewing eye. Very likely it was made in or before 1985.

Nice work, SAK42!  :cheers:

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Thanks guys! I have a couple more to post up when I get a minute.


 

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