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What is a Yeoman with a saw?

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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #60 on: December 19, 2016, 02:51:07 AM
I don't own a SAK yet that has that file material on the backside of the parcel hook.
Would it work for a finger nail file or is it for starting fires?  Or other purpose?
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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #61 on: December 19, 2016, 09:06:10 AM
I don't own a SAK yet that has that file material on the backside of the parcel hook.
Would it work for a finger nail file or is it for starting fires?  Or other purpose?


It works, just about, as a finger nail file, but is not aggressive enough for much else. It's better than nothing I guess.
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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #62 on: December 19, 2016, 10:46:16 AM
I wanted the hook on my Greenwood to be a nail file hook. I tried to use optimum parts when I did the mod: Thicker tang main blade, key ring spring, old style grey mag and longer philips, plus scales, and I wanted the hook too but it's a rare beast isn't it?
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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #63 on: December 19, 2016, 12:55:06 PM
I wanted the hook on my Greenwood to be a nail file hook. I tried to use optimum parts when I did the mod: Thicker tang main blade, key ring spring, old style grey mag and longer philips, plus scales, and I wanted the hook too but it's a rare beast isn't it?
Not if you get from the latest compact or the DofE Pocket Tool


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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #64 on: December 19, 2016, 12:58:32 PM
 :salute: But then you're talking at least £30 for the DoE just for the hook  :facepalm:  It should be standard on the hook  :rant:
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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #65 on: December 19, 2016, 01:07:39 PM
:salute: But then you're talking at least £30 for the DoE just for the hook  :facepalm:  It should be standard on the hook  :rant:
I hear ya... that should be standard on all hooks...


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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #66 on: December 19, 2016, 02:18:23 PM
:salute: But then you're talking at least £30 for the DoE just for the hook  :facepalm:  It should be standard on the hook  :rant:
I hear ya... that should be standard on all hooks...


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So should the fine screwdriver be with all woodsaws, and the wood chisel with all metal file/saws, but this isn't the case...
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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #67 on: December 19, 2016, 02:19:46 PM
Thanks all for the replies, but what is DoE?
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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #68 on: December 19, 2016, 02:22:48 PM
Thanks all for the replies, but what is DoE?
Duke of Edinburgh

DofE is a variation of the Compact




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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #69 on: December 19, 2016, 02:25:56 PM
:salute: But then you're talking at least £30 for the DoE just for the hook  :facepalm:  It should be standard on the hook  :rant:
I hear ya... that should be standard on all hooks...


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So should the fine screwdriver be with all woodsaws, and the wood chisel with all metal file/saws, but this isn't the case...
Backsprings with no backtools are better in the long run... I've seen someone mentioned this in this forum... Tried it out... holds true


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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #70 on: December 19, 2016, 02:26:03 PM
Thanks all for the replies, but what is DoE?

Duke of Edinburgh - named after the UK youth awards programme: https://en.wikipedia.org/...of_Edinburgh's_Award


In the UK Victorinox do a SAK with this name, it's basically a compact but with the corkscrew replaced with a Phillips driver, but has an emasculated rounded blade (if it didn't I would buy one!):

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...php?page=DofE+Pocket+Tool
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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #71 on: December 19, 2016, 02:27:43 PM
:salute: But then you're talking at least £30 for the DoE just for the hook  :facepalm:  It should be standard on the hook  :rant:
I hear ya... that should be standard on all hooks...


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So should the fine screwdriver be with all woodsaws, and the wood chisel with all metal file/saws, but this isn't the case...
Backsprings with no backtools are better in the long run... I've seen someone mentioned this in this forum... Tried it out... holds true


Well they'll be stronger, but that's what the alox SAKs are for, with the cellidor ones I want lots of tools!
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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #72 on: December 19, 2016, 02:31:14 PM
Thank you for the DofE explanation and link.  I'm getting there with the acronyms, T&T threw me for a while.  :facepalm:
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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #73 on: December 19, 2016, 02:33:21 PM

Well they'll be stronger, but that's what the alox SAKs are for, with the cellidor ones I want lots of tools!

Yep, I love cellidor.  I'm going to be making the perfect (for me) Yeoman variant with cellidor!  Just trying to figure out which tools I have to buy to have it made.
It'll have a wood saw though, that's for certain!
Rest in peace ColoSwiss, you will always be remembered.


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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #74 on: December 19, 2016, 02:35:20 PM

Well they'll be stronger, but that's what the alox SAKs are for, with the cellidor ones I want lots of tools!

Yep, I love cellidor.  I'm going to be making the perfect (for me) Yeoman variant with cellidor!  Just trying to figure out which tools I have to buy to have it made.
It'll have a wood saw though, that's for certain!
Get a used Champion and Compact... Huntsman wouldn't have the backtools on saw


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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #75 on: December 19, 2016, 02:40:33 PM
Used Champion is a check (bought one).  Only drawback is mine was pre-parcel hook....hmmmm, maybe that's not a bad thing, I'll forego the hook and maybe add a nail file within the toolset.
Must find a Compact.
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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #76 on: December 19, 2016, 02:41:38 PM
If u get a used compact, parcel hook shouldn't be an issue


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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #77 on: December 19, 2016, 06:34:06 PM
If u get a used compact, parcel hook shouldn't be an issue


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Exactly, the Compact has the file on the hook, which is where my Yeoman got its hook from (not the Explorer)
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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #78 on: December 19, 2016, 09:26:53 PM
Well I went looking for a used Compact and bought something else.   :oops:
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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #79 on: December 20, 2016, 01:22:03 AM
I'm getting closer to figuring out my perfect knife!  :climber:

It'll be a Yeoman with red Cellidor.  It'll have the front scale from my spare Camper (love that front scale), it will have the back plus scale.  Obviously it will have a wood saw (my favorite tool I never use).  :ahhh
I just have to figure out how to get a finger nail file included.
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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #80 on: December 20, 2016, 04:23:44 AM
I'm getting closer to figuring out my perfect knife!  :climber:

It'll be a Yeoman with red Cellidor.  It'll have the front scale from my spare Camper (love that front scale), it will have the back plus scale.  Obviously it will have a wood saw (my favorite tool I never use).  :ahhh
I just have to figure out how to get a finger nail file included.

It is fun figuring out what the perfect SAK is for ones self :D :like: :like:


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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #81 on: December 20, 2016, 04:24:39 AM
I'm getting closer to figuring out my perfect knife!  :climber:

It'll be a Yeoman with red Cellidor.  It'll have the front scale from my spare Camper (love that front scale), it will have the back plus scale.  Obviously it will have a wood saw (my favorite tool I never use).  :ahhh
I just have to figure out how to get a finger nail file included.

It is fun figuring out what the perfect SAK is for ones self :D :like: :like:
How's your build coming along Ponch?


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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #82 on: December 20, 2016, 06:07:52 AM
Thank you for the replies.

I have a question.  Since I want to put together a Yeoman with saw that will make it 4 layers instead of 3.
I am thinking I should just buy the Woodsman that was the special run that can still be found new in box.
Am I missing/gaining something here by doing this?  Input welcome.

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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #83 on: December 20, 2016, 06:12:18 AM
Yeoman with saw is essentially the compact version of the woodsman... 5 layers


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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #84 on: December 20, 2016, 06:23:54 AM
Yeoman with saw is essentially the compact version of the woodsman... 5 layers


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Okay, thank you.  Your comment made me go back to the SakWiki.  You are correct.  I was looking at the Woodsman in the 4 layer category, but when I clicked on the word "Woodsman" I didn't realize it was bringing up a "Huntsman".

So if I have a Yeoman made with a saw it will be 4 layers.  If I buy the Woodsman new it is 5 layers.  Although I'd prefer 4 layers.....I might just go 5 and have the full Victorinox warranty.
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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #85 on: December 20, 2016, 10:00:45 AM
Good idea - you'd also get the opening layer which out perform the combo tool and you also get the small blade - this totals 1 small sd, 1 large sd, bottle opener, can opener, wire stripper and small blade (6 tools) at the expense of just one layer. Good value!

If and when you get adventurous you could replace the small blade with the 93mm in-line awl to achieve the perfect SAK  :D
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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #86 on: December 20, 2016, 10:03:45 AM
Yeoman with saw is essentially the compact version of the woodsman... 5 layers


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Okay, thank you.  Your comment made me go back to the SakWiki.  You are correct.  I was looking at the Woodsman in the 4 layer category, but when I clicked on the word "Woodsman" I didn't realize it was bringing up a "Huntsman".

So if I have a Yeoman made with a saw it will be 4 layers.  If I buy the Woodsman new it is 5 layers.  Although I'd prefer 4 layers.....I might just go 5 and have the full Victorinox warranty.


Although you can't actually buy a new Woodsman anymore, unless you can snag one of those Mexican special edition ones...
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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #87 on: December 20, 2016, 10:11:22 AM
Yeoman with saw is essentially the compact version of the woodsman... 5 layers


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Okay, thank you.  Your comment made me go back to the SakWiki.  You are correct.  I was looking at the Woodsman in the 4 layer category, but when I clicked on the word "Woodsman" I didn't realize it was bringing up a "Huntsman".

So if I have a Yeoman made with a saw it will be 4 layers.  If I buy the Woodsman new it is 5 layers.  Although I'd prefer 4 layers.....I might just go 5 and have the full Victorinox warranty.


Although you can't actually buy a new Woodsman anymore, unless you can snag one of those Mexican special edition ones...
A few people on here bought one a while back - there was a guy selling them - he may have some more still. Check the Woodsman owners club thread for his details, or the 'for sale' thread.
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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #88 on: December 20, 2016, 01:28:05 PM
Thank you Oxford and magentus, I did find the Woodsman from the seller in Quebec.
I have two in route, one to use, one to keep.  I decided on standard red instead of ruby red.  The ruby red is beautiful I must admit, but I'm partial to the standard red.
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Re: What is a Yeoman with a saw?
Reply #89 on: December 20, 2016, 01:48:03 PM
Thank you Oxford and magentus, I did find the Woodsman from the seller in Quebec.
I have two in route, one to use, one to keep.  I decided on standard red instead of ruby red.  The ruby red is beautiful I must admit, but I'm partial to the standard red.


I prefer the the standard red too, even my CT29 has standard solid red scales
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