It doesn't make any sense.

[Benner]

A while back I posted this thread where I did a comparison between the Swisstool X and the Spirit http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,5232.0.html and in it I decided that the one for me was the Spirit.  Well for quite a while afterwards the Spirit was the only tool I carried and it worked well for me.  This was until a few weeks ago where I thought that just for a change I would carry my X again.  Well since then, the X has appeared more and more in my EDC and now has once again pretty much replaced everything else (Supertool is still a common carry though).  I just love this tool and even though (as shown in my comparison thread) the Spirit seemed to have a few areas that I thought were better than the X, I just can't seem to have it replace it's bigger brother.

I think I have Dunc's ST disease. 

[max6166]

So what are the main factors that drew you back to the SwissTool? Is it the larger pliers?

[Benner]

So what are the main factors that drew you back to the SwissTool? Is it the larger pliers?

This is going to sound a bit sad and emotional (I am all man - honest!  ) but this tool means a lot to me because Dunc gave it to me, despite me not being a member on here too long.  I think I also like the fact that it is heavier and feels just more solid.  The ruler plays a big part too.

[max6166]

I figured it probably had something to do with the size/strength of the SwissTool. I don't have a Spirit, but the ST feels absolutely indestructible which I like a lot.

The trade off, of course, is the weight. I was especially curious about your thoughts, because I am finding the ST too heavy and was thinking of switching to the Spirit.

[Benner]

I figured it probably had something to do with the size/strength of the SwissTool. I don't have a Spirit, but the ST feels absolutely indestructible which I like a lot.

The trade off, of course, is the weight. I was especially curious about your thoughts, because I am finding the ST too heavy and was thinking of switching to the Spirit.

I like the weight of the ST.  I think it's heaviness instills confidence in me.

[Freudian Frog]

I think I have Dunc's ST disease. 

So... ye share an STD with Dunc?

[Benner]

I think I have Dunc's ST disease. 

So... ye share an STD with Dunc?

I'm so glad someone spotted that. 

[Leatherman123]

 

[Freudian Frog]

I think I have Dunc's ST disease. 

So... ye share an STD with Dunc?

I'm so glad someone spotted that. 

I was wondering why no one else had yet. But don't worry, this STD seems to spread pretty easily, as I have it too.

[Benner]

I think I have Dunc's ST disease. 

So... ye share an STD with Dunc?

I'm so glad someone spotted that. 

I was wondering why no one else had yet. But don't worry, this STD seems to spread pretty easily, as I have it too.

He gets around doesn't he. 

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I love the Spirit, but the ST really is just so confidence inspiring, that it's hard (read impossible in my case) to pass it over in favour of any other tool

[Swiss Man]

I started with a Gerber Multiplier (the one that pinched your hand) then I moved to the PST but quickly traded up to a Supertool when I nicked the cutter on a hard wire. 

For the longest time I carried the Super and only wanted to replace it with a Swiss Tool but couldn't afford one. Finally I got one with a trade and $30.00.

Now came the LONG line of buying and comparing, time and time again they failed and were returned or traded off (we are talking Schrade, Buck Kershaw, Leatherman) not China POC.

After several years of carrying the ST I found the Spirit and it quickly became my EDC ( I admit I too love the weight and feel of the ST). But went with the lighter version Spirit.

Just recently I received a Skeletool and I have been carrying it and only a Wenger nail clipper so far I like it but I don't think that I am completly sold on the idea of no Spirit.

[Freudian Frog]

I still haven't gotten a Spirit but I do believe it would be my ideal EDC... well, on my person. My ST stays in my backpack, and as I'm always carrying that it's EDC too! I'd like to EDC both.

[Styerman]

I still haven't gotten a Spirit but I do believe it would be my ideal EDC... well, on my person. My ST stays in my backpack, and as I'm always carrying that it's EDC too! I'd like to EDC both.

Thats pretty much my findings , Spirit on the belt , Swisstool mostly in the bag. While there isn't much difference in strength , the Swisstool is a very reassuring presence .

Chris

[Grant Lamontagne]

The SwissTool X is a great tool- I'm still kicking myself for trading it away, but I'm still hooked on the RS.  I have to say I like the emergency blade better than the file, and the serrations are better than the ones on the standard SwissTool's drop point blade.

I like the Spirit for it's "go anywhere, do anything" type size, but you are absolutely right, there is definitely something about the SwissTool that really can't be denied.  While I am comfortable using a Spirit for heavier duty jobs than I would with many tools it's size, I have complete confidence that no matter what I need to do, the SwissTool can handle it.  And, I mean everything.... the SwissTool is perhaps the most confident feeling tool I have ever handled- no rattle, no flex, no compromises.

For anyone who doesn't have a SwissTool, I'd strongly suggest getting one, or at least borrowing one from someone- the feel of it is unsurpassed by any other model or maker.  While it may not be the "right" tool for everyone (no tool is), it is certainly worth experiencing.

Def

[Dunc]

I would consider the Spirit to be the best all round multitool on the market . But because I'm a heavy user and dont mind the weight, the Swisstool is the one for me . Although its spending less and less time in my EDC because I keep trying out other tools for comparison  Still its going to be nice when I go back to the Swisstool .At the moment I have my very well used RS and my most treasured Elsener signature model  ( pride and joy of my collection Def  ) .Multimat has my other holy grail , a black oxide Australian Army issue Swisstool  But I have nothing to trade that he wants at the moment 

   I totally agree with Defs comments about the Swisstool giving you a feeling of confidence . They are so strong , I've done some mad things with mine .

Ben so glad your still enjoying the X 

Dunc

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

For anyone who doesn't have a SwissTool, I'd strongly suggest getting one, or at least borrowing one from someone- the feel of it is unsurpassed by any other model or maker.  While it may not be the "right" tool for everyone (no tool is), it is certainly worth experiencing.

Def

Here, here

[Dunc]

Between us I wonder how many people we have convinced to buy one 

Dunc

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Between us I wonder how many people we have convinced to buy one 

Dunc

Not enough, we must not rest until everyone has one

[ducktapehero]

I can't afford to buy one but I'd be more than happy to have one.  If someone wants to donate to the official "Get ducktapehero a Swisstool" fund let ducktapehero know and he'll be more than happy to accept it on behalf of ducktapehero.

[Freudian Frog]

Indeed, I still need help getting a spirit.

[max6166]

I have been scouring eBay for a cheap Spirit for a long time without luck. Regular SwissTools pop up at a decent price every once in a while though if you are extremely vigiliant. $40-$45 is pretty common, sometimes $35-40. Remember the Vic warranty when bidding...

You have no idea how much many of us envy you guys in the US. Stop letting Smartknives grab all those cheap goodies!

[NutSAK]

Indeed, I still need help getting a spirit.

Keep an eye on the trade forums the next couple of days.

wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more, say no more 

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Indeed, I still need help getting a spirit.

Keep an eye on the trade forums the next couple of days.

wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more, say no more 

Don't do it!, you'll kick yourself if you do mate

[NutSAK]

Indeed, I still need help getting a spirit.

Keep an eye on the trade forums the next couple of days.

wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more, say no more 

Don't do it!, you'll kick yourself if you do mate

Nah, I have my heart set on a Spirit S.  I carry a SAK with scissors most of the time, and I really don't get on with the ones on the Spirit.  I might as well have an extra blade.  I'm not 100% on selling it yet, but not far from it.

Of course I'll also be getting the new model with the scissors and spearpoint if it ever becomes available.

I think I'm going to dump my Leathermans and SOGs and buy nothing but Swisstools from now on.  What is the point of having anything else, really?

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I think I'm going to dump my Leathermans and SOGs and buy nothing but Swisstools from now on.  What is the point of having anything else, really?

That was exactly my reasoning too , why waste money on tool's they you find inferior

[Freudian Frog]

Indeed, I still need help getting a spirit.

Keep an eye on the trade forums the next couple of days.

wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more, say no more 

How about we just forego that extra step?

[ducktapehero]

I have my heart set on a Spirit S

I have one. As far as I'm concerned it's closer to perfection than any other pliers based multi-tool available.

[Benner]

Ben so glad your still enjoying the X 

Dunc

Certainly am buddy. 

[DaveK]

Between us I wonder how many people we have convinced to buy one 

Dunc

Not me! After all the hype on here, I was pretty underwhelmed when I held them at the meet.

To be clear, there's nothing wrong with them IMO, but (and you'll hate me for this), it seemed to be just another Leatherman clone. I mean the quality is great, but Leatherman tools don't exactly fall apart do they?

Let me put it this way - I would have expected that anyone trying to compete with Leatherman, would come up with something a bit more innovative. At least SOG and Gerber have tried to put their own "mark" on the Leatherman "folding pliers" idea and innovate a bit. I just can't say that about the Vic stuff.

Quality's great (although I really don't like the super shiny finish), but I'd rather have a Core v a Swisstool, and even more so, my Charge TTi over the Spirit. What do the Vic tools have that the LM tools don't?

Discuss.