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The oldest Tourist
on: February 06, 2017, 12:36:42 AM
Hello Ladies and Gentlemen,
when I started collecting Spartans, I soon found out that some sellers on well-known auction sites just wouldn't include any sizes into the descriptions of their knives. Sometimes, the eagerly awaited Spartan turned out to be a tourist. Meeeeuuup. So what can one do? Start collecting 'em buggers, too.

One thing that bothers me is, since when do the tourist-like knives exist? My oldest Tourist is already a "Victor (crossbow) inox" one.
Don't let yourselves be fooled - the bright red four-pin-"tourist" in the upper left corner of my picture is of Solingen(Kaufmann K55K) origin and just a placeholder until I get a real one.

So, experts- what am I looking for? Was there an 84-mm version of the early 205-knives?
Is there even a four-pin, non-INOX-version of the tourist?
I found no trace in the 1903 catalogue from Elsener...

Thank you for your enlightenment,
Tomcat
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Re: The oldest Tourist
Reply #1 on: February 06, 2017, 01:01:49 AM
I don't know the answer but I like your collection Tomcat!!
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Re: The oldest Tourist
Reply #2 on: February 06, 2017, 01:09:24 AM
Quote from: Barry Rowland on February 06, 2017, 01:01:49 AM
I don't know the answer but I like your collection Tomcat!!

Thank you ;-)
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Re: The oldest Tourist
Reply #3 on: February 06, 2017, 01:11:51 AM
 :cheers:
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Re: The oldest Tourist
Reply #4 on: February 06, 2017, 03:13:02 AM
Quote from: Tomcat_81 on February 06, 2017, 12:36:42 AM
Hello Ladies and Gentlemen,
when I started collecting Spartans, I soon found out that some sellers on well-known auction sites just wouldn't include any sizes into the descriptions of their knives. Sometimes, the eagerly awaited Spartan turned out to be a tourist. Meeeeuuup. So what can one do? Start collecting 'em buggers, too.

One thing that bothers me is, since when do the tourist-like knives exist? My oldest Tourist is already a "Victor (crossbow) inox" one.
Don't let yourselves be fooled - the bright red four-pin-"tourist" in the upper left corner of my picture is of Solingen(Kaufmann K55K) origin and just a placeholder until I get a real one.

So, experts- what am I looking for? Was there an 84-mm version of the early 205-knives?
Is there even a four-pin, non-INOX-version of the tourist?
I found no trace in the 1903 catalogue from Elsener...

Thank you for your enlightenment,
Tomcat


Yeah, sweet collection.  I am by no means an expert, I just got my first Tourist with a clip-point in which I take great delight.   

Found this on Jeroen's page.  It says this page is from 1903,  the top model is the "klein" or small, 8cm version.  Judging by this, yes, the Tourist was there since way-back.    :salute: :cheers:
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Re: The oldest Tourist
Reply #5 on: February 06, 2017, 09:59:00 AM
I have a Tourist from around 1900 with the screwdriver stamped "gesetzlich geschützt". It's the oldest one I've ever seen.

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Re: The oldest Tourist
Reply #6 on: February 06, 2017, 11:47:55 AM
Here's a 101 year old Tourist:



Apparently it's the oldest Chinese tourist to the Maldives  :salute:
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Re: The oldest Tourist
Reply #7 on: February 06, 2017, 11:52:02 AM
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Reply #8 on: February 06, 2017, 12:26:56 PM
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Re: The oldest Tourist
Reply #9 on: February 06, 2017, 01:22:37 PM
Quote from: glenfiddich1983 on February 06, 2017, 11:47:55 AM
Here's a 101 year old Tourist:

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Apparently it's the oldest Chinese tourist to the Maldives  :salute:

And judging by the photo she has the earscraper/spatula tool on het left hand!
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Re: The oldest Tourist
Reply #10 on: February 06, 2017, 01:25:01 PM
Quote from: Mactire404 on February 06, 2017, 01:22:37 PM
Quote from: glenfiddich1983 on February 06, 2017, 11:47:55 AM
Here's a 101 year old Tourist:

(Image removed from quote.)

Apparently it's the oldest Chinese tourist to the Maldives  :salute:

And judging by the photo she has the earscraper/spatula tool on het left hand!

 :rofl:
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Re: The oldest Tourist
Reply #13 on: February 06, 2017, 05:42:15 PM
Thank you very much, El Corkscrew and Jazzbass!
Thats an important piece of info, so I'll spend the rest of my living days hunting for that rusty lil fellow
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And for the rest ... well... ermmm... thank you for the ... for ... well, thanks for watching ;-)

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Reply #14 on: February 06, 2017, 06:03:49 PM
Quote from: Tomcat_81 on February 06, 2017, 05:42:15 PM
Thats an important piece of info, so I'll spend the rest of my living days hunting for that rusty lil fellow
 :tu:

117 year old Tourist here. Main blade has been poorly sharpened unfortunately, but that's pretty common with knives of this vintage. I'm pretty sure this is the oldest knife I own.

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Re: The oldest Tourist
Reply #15 on: February 06, 2017, 06:14:33 PM
Just wow- that was/is exactly what I was looking for!
Even with the old "gesetzlich geschützt" on the screwdriver!

Thanks a lot!
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Re: The oldest Tourist
Reply #16 on: February 06, 2017, 06:44:12 PM
Never ceases to amaze me, Jazzbass that is. 

WOW what a lovely specimen, the Tourist 205k that is. 

I'm sure JB is too  :D
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Re: The oldest Tourist
Reply #17 on: February 06, 2017, 07:44:33 PM
Quote from: Tomcat_81 on February 06, 2017, 05:42:15 PM
Thank you very much, El Corkscrew and Jazzbass!
Thats an important piece of info, so I'll spend the rest of my living days hunting for that rusty lil fellow
 :tu:

And for the rest ... well... ermmm... thank you for the ... for ... well, thanks for watching ;-)

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Re: The oldest Tourist
Reply #18 on: February 06, 2017, 08:35:48 PM
Quote from: Tomcat_81 on February 06, 2017, 12:36:42 AM
Hello Ladies and Gentlemen,
when I started collecting Spartans, I soon found out that some sellers on well-known auction sites just wouldn't include any sizes into the descriptions of their knives. Sometimes, the eagerly awaited Spartan turned out to be a tourist. Meeeeuuup. So what can one do? Start collecting 'em buggers, too.

One thing that bothers me is, since when do the tourist-like knives exist? My oldest Tourist is already a "Victor (crossbow) inox" one.
Don't let yourselves be fooled - the bright red four-pin-"tourist" in the upper left corner of my picture is of Solingen(Kaufmann K55K) origin and just a placeholder until I get a real one.

So, experts- what am I looking for? Was there an 84-mm version of the early 205-knives?
Is there even a four-pin, non-INOX-version of the tourist?
I found no trace in the 1903 catalogue from Elsener...

Thank you for your enlightenment,
Tomcat
Those are some nice looking SAKS! :like:
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cs Offline M0rkoni

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Re: The oldest Tourist
Reply #19 on: February 07, 2017, 07:51:48 AM
Quote from: jazzbass on February 06, 2017, 06:03:49 PM
Quote from: Tomcat_81 on February 06, 2017, 05:42:15 PM
Thats an important piece of info, so I'll spend the rest of my living days hunting for that rusty lil fellow
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117 year old Tourist here. Main blade has been poorly sharpened unfortunately, but that's pretty common with knives of this vintage. I'm pretty sure this is the oldest knife I own.

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Nice! What stamps are there?

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Re: The oldest Tourist
Reply #20 on: February 07, 2017, 05:14:45 PM
Quote from: M0rkoni on February 07, 2017, 07:51:48 AM
Quote from: jazzbass on February 06, 2017, 06:03:49 PM
Quote from: Tomcat_81 on February 06, 2017, 05:42:15 PM
Thats an important piece of info, so I'll spend the rest of my living days hunting for that rusty lil fellow
 :tu:

117 year old Tourist here. Main blade has been poorly sharpened unfortunately, but that's pretty common with knives of this vintage. I'm pretty sure this is the oldest knife I own.

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Nice! What stamps are there?

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Re: The oldest Tourist
Reply #21 on: February 07, 2017, 06:56:06 PM
Quote from: jazzbass on February 06, 2017, 06:03:49 PM
Quote from: Tomcat_81 on February 06, 2017, 05:42:15 PM
Thats an important piece of info, so I'll spend the rest of my living days hunting for that rusty lil fellow
 :tu:

117 year old Tourist here. Main blade has been poorly sharpened unfortunately, but that's pretty common with knives of this vintage. I'm pretty sure this is the oldest knife I own.

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Thank you for photo! Great knife.

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