Great SOG Power Plier/PPP conundrum

[Grant Lamontagne]

While researching the Pocket Power Plier and Power Plier issue dates with Bob (J-Sews) the easy answer came up as:

According to my archives, The PP first showed up in the SOG catalog in 1995, and the PPP in 1996

But, it's not that simple as the following message shows- this one came in about ten seconds after I copied and pasted the first message into the Trivia thread:

...which seems to conflict slightly with the filing date of U.S. Patent 5809599, which was dated Dec 6, 1996[/url]

My thought was that, like many manufacturers, they didn't want to wait for the patent to actually be issued, and instead starting to produce "Patent Pending" version while waiting for the lawyers and government to do what they do.

Then this message came in:

That could be one explanation.  But you wouldn't think you could claim "patent pending" unless you'd actually filed for a patent..  But I dunno

Then:

Or maybe there's an earlier patent filing that I just haven't found yet

And then:

I'd go with the 95 catalog date

So there you have it- until we get more information, the official word it 1995, subject to change without notice.   

Does anyone have any more information to add to this thaat might clear things up?  Or make it more fun by muddying the waters further?   

Def

[AimlessWanderer]

I think it might have been a Tuesday, if that helps 

[Poncho65]

We can go with my first answer of 1996

 

[sLaughterMed]

According to that patent, the priority date (which is kind of like an "effective filing date", and can be earlier than the actual filing date) is 1993, which would fall in line with a couple years of development before releasing the PPP and PP in 1995/1996

For those more well versed in legalese, here is where i got that info:
http://www.bios.net/daisy/patentlens/2343.html

[J-sews]

According to that patent, the priority date (which is kind of like an "effective filing date", and can be earlier than the actual filing date) is 1993, which would fall in line with a couple years of development before releasing the PPP and PP in 1995/1996

For those more well versed in legalese, here is where i got that info:
http://www.bios.net/daisy/patentlens/2343.html

Ah, excellent observation. I had missed that point in my discussion with Grant.

Thanks!!

[Grant Lamontagne]

Wow, if we had a "Knowing something that Bob doesn't" merit badge, that would probably be the only time we ever gave it out!

 

Def

[ThePeacent]

Carrying the excellent PP today 'cause I read this thread yesterday... 

[Grant Lamontagne]

Good thing you didn't read a thread about a pink tutu!   

Def

[Padre]

Come oon. Peacent carries anything gracefully, he has like half man weight of tools with him. Is that a Mora btw?

[sLaughterMed]

Wow, if we had a "Knowing something that Bob doesn't" merit badge, that would probably be the only time we ever gave it out!

 

Def

So when do I get my badge?

[ThePeacent]

Come oon. Peacent carries anything gracefully, he has like half man weight of tools with him. Is that a Mora btw?

Mora given as a present in this year's Secret Santa by the mighty Powernoodle! I like it a lot, such a great lightweight and discreet carry (sheat inside pocket)
But today I carry the same SAK and MT, with the Voyager instead. I like rotating!!