Do not crash in a Ford Mustang

[dks]

really bad for a modern car

http://www.euroncap.com/en/results/ford/mustang/26063

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/videos/a32405/the-ford-mustang-isnt-safe-enough-for-euroncap/

[dks]

to get an idea, the Ford Fiesta got 5 stars a few years ago (there may have been some changes to the testing too)



a video by proud Ford....

[Smashie]

Damn a 2 star rating is the lowest I've seen for a long time

[Higgins617]

Damn a 2 star rating is the lowest I've seen for a long time

http://jalopnik.com/nissan-will-finally-stop-building-the-1992-sentra-in-me-1788243196

 

[ducttapetech]

I prefer not to crash in anything.

[Smashie]

Damn a 2 star rating is the lowest I've seen for a long time

http://jalopnik.com/nissa...2-sentra-in-me-1788243196

 

There was also a Chinese made car that failed so badly that it was withdrawn from sale, but I'm surprised at Ford failing so badly

[pfrsantos]

I prefer not to crash in anything.

+1

 

[dks]

well, it is not likely you will crash driving a powerful rear wheel drive muscle car.....

[Smashie]

well, it is not likely you will crash driving a powerful rear wheel drive muscle car.....

Of course it isn't

[captain spaulding]

Already crashed one. Luckily it was in a year with a 9.1 crash test rating. 

[styx]

perhaps it might be a good idea to avoid crashing all together

[Whoey]

while owning a Mustang is not really on my bucket list (I'm a Mopar guy after all) I have to agree that "not crashing" is higher on my todo list regardless of the car make/model.

[dks]

obviously crash protection, airbags, seatbelts, child seats and so on are a waste of time and money since nobody intends to crash here.

2/5 stars is more than enough then and Ford can do no wrong with the Mustang

[pietervn]

He He He, looks like you will be safer on a motorbike that inside one of these.

[Grant Lamontagne]

Damn a 2 star rating is the lowest I've seen for a long time

http://jalopnik.com/nissa...2-sentra-in-me-1788243196

 

There was also a Chinese made car that failed so badly that it was withdrawn from sale, but I'm surprised at Ford failing so badly

Was this it?



Def

[dks]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4163154/Shocking-moment-man-tried-drive-Humber-Bridge.html

Get a Mitsubishi pick-up truck

"The vehicle only just avoided falling into the water below – and Dent, who suffered injuries including a broken arm, was cut from the mangled wreckage.

Stephen Welch, prosecuting, said an accident investigator said the Mitsubishi L200 4x4 was travelling at up to 104mph at the time of the collision." (I did not know they could go that fast..)

[Grant Lamontagne]

They don't sell Mitsubishi pickups in Canada so that's not an option.

Def

[Smashie]

Damn a 2 star rating is the lowest I've seen for a long time

http://jalopnik.com/nissa...2-sentra-in-me-1788243196

 

There was also a Chinese made car that failed so badly that it was withdrawn from sale, but I'm surprised at Ford failing so badly

Was this it?

(Image removed from quote.)

Def

LOL probably made by the same people as this one

[Grant Lamontagne]

That is remarkably bad indeed....

Def

[dks]

[firiki]

well, it is not likely you will crash driving a powerful rear wheel drive muscle car.....

Asking seriously: Can anybody give me a good reason for making rear wheel drive cars these days?

If nothing else, the way they handle makes them dangerous to use by uneducated people.

[dks]

well, it is not likely you will crash driving a powerful rear wheel drive muscle car.....

Asking seriously: Can anybody give me a good reason for making rear wheel drive cars these days?

If nothing else, the way they handle makes them dangerous to use by uneducated people.

They are only for the educated ones!!

Rear wheel drive is fun. Going round corners, sliding....
Even a pick-up truck with rear wheel drive will be fun to throw around on a dirt road

[firiki]

well, it is not likely you will crash driving a powerful rear wheel drive muscle car.....

Asking seriously: Can anybody give me a good reason for making rear wheel drive cars these days?

If nothing else, the way they handle makes them dangerous to use by uneducated people.

They are only for the educated ones!!

Rear wheel drive is fun. Going round corners, sliding....
Even a pick-up truck with rear wheel drive will be fun to throw around on a dirt road

Wrong choice of word, thank you for pointing it out. I meant that you need to know how to safely drive those cars.

Fun factor isn't good enough a reason for me, I'm afraid. Recreational drug use can be fun too but is also dangerous and illegal. Why should such vehicles, that I suppose are good for racing, be available to the public? Don't they potentially pose a threat to public safety with so many vehicles on the roads?

Maybe I should have asked whether RWD has any advantages over FWD or 4WD?

[dks]

A car is more than a means of transport - people buy a specific model because they like its look, the image, the way it drives. People get pleasure from driving their car (or e.g playing football - what is the point to that- risking injury for what?)

What is the point of having a 4wd car, or any car in the center of e.g. Athens? Using public transport and, if needed, a taxi will be cheaper and will not require parking, but people still buy cars.

If you see a  car as just a tool, then many people do not need a car.

The same with knives - people usually choose something they enjoy looking at and using, rather than just something that cuts.

[firiki]

I accidentally posted this while still writting. I need to get back at another time. Sorry

[Grant Lamontagne]

As someone who drives a RWD most of the time (when it's not in 4WD) I have a lot of thoughts on the matter, but as I'm on my phone I will be brief.

RWD is simpler and easier to fix since you aren't trying to use the front wheels for drive and steering.  The front end of a FWD car is very complex to try and accommodate all the function.

FWD is less powerful because the drive shafts isn't in a straight line.  You need a series of gears and redirects to put power out of the engine, into the transmission which has to be in the cab so the driver can operate it, then back to either side of the engine.  It is inefficient.

Further, when you accelerate hard, weight shifts to the back of the car- in a RWD car that means traction on the drive wheels, while in a FWD car that means the front wheels get lighter and lose traction.   This is a problem if you are trying to merge onto a busy road in winter.

FWD also affects the steering. When you lay on the gas they tend to veer to one side as the engine rotation really messes with the balance.

This is why vehicles that require power and/or performance are generally rear wheel drive or 4WD/AWD.

So much for being brief! 

Def

[dks]

they used to say that you could not put more than 200HP through the front wheels, but this has now changed and we see powerful FWD cars that do not spin like crazy or torque steer (in many FWD cars if you floor it from still the steering wheel will try to turn).

Also, you could make the front wheels on a RWD car turn more, as there are less parts that need to move with the wheel, though this is not really true these days.
in theory with the RWD, if you know how, you can steer with the front and use the power from the rear wheels to aid with that steering - 2 independent systems, whereas with a FWD car the steering and the power delivery take place through the same wheels

For handbrake turns the FWD car is better, as you can use the handbrake AND have the driving wheels turn at the same time, making for more impressive turns. (with a RWD car you need to apply the clutch)

I Drive 4WD, AWD, RWD, FWD regularly and during normal driving they all feel fine.

You can crash with any of them. (of course, you should not do that with a mustang)

another Short answer, Def style

[Grant Lamontagne]

As I am no longer 17 and need to impress teenage girls, I don't spend a lot of time doing handbrake turns, so that is kind of pointless for me.

As most economy cars are FWD nowadays (and therefore what most people start with) I am always amused by people who drive RWD cars for the first time and think, especially in winter, that they can drive the same way!  I have stopped and helped (and laughed at) so many people in my old neighbourhood in Halifax for that.  Halifax gets more ice than snow and has a lot of hills, so you see so many people stopped on the hill, at an intersection mashing the gas pedal and going nowhere.   

Mind you, in a lot of places in Halifax you see that in FWD cars too, but it's great to see people who have no idea how to handle it.  I really think there might be a market in the world for a RWD Driving School, because it is such a different animal than a FWD car.

I don't really have a preference, they are just different tools for different jobs.  I'd be just as happy if my Jeep was FWD, as long as I still had the option to shift into 4WD when necessary, because let's face it, 4WD beats it all... except on fuel economy.... 

Def

[Whoey]

Honestly when I see those "worst driver" shows I think there's a number of things they attempt to teach that should be a complementary course that would earn you some bonus points with insurance.

[Grant Lamontagne]

I agree too. They cover a lot of stuff that isn't covered in a regular driving course that I really wish I'd learned on a nice safe course instead of the hard way like I did. 

Like skid control for example.....

Def