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Pin size & blade replacement on a repair , HELP
on: February 25, 2017, 05:00:06 PM
Yeah all.....  :salute:
Need a lil HELP , Please and Thanks in advance!  :cheers:

I would like to know a couple thangs, before I get started.

The knife to be repaired - Vintage Spartan with Bail  = 91mm
I would like to replace the main blade...... and the scales are starting to warp, so address that after..........  :tu:

QUESTIONS:
1 -  What are the pin sizes ??
2 - What Main Blade can I use..... GUESSING I can use any from a new or older spartan?  :think:

Hopefully this will get me started , I will post pics once I get answers and start it.  :tu: :cheers:
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Re: Pin size & blade replacement on a repair , HELP
Reply #1 on: February 25, 2017, 05:40:36 PM
Pin sizes for 91mm are: 2.5mm for the outer pins and 2.2mm for the inner pins...

Unfortunately, I've never worked on a SAK with bail... won't be able to address you on the bail pin size...

Which blade to use depends on the blade tang thickness... just get a matching one...


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Re: Pin size & blade replacement on a repair , HELP
Reply #2 on: February 25, 2017, 06:24:04 PM
Quote from: jaya_man on February 25, 2017, 05:40:36 PM
Pin sizes for 91mm are: 2.5mm for the outer pins and 2.2mm for the inner pins...

Unfortunately, I've never worked on a SAK with bail... won't be able to address you on the bail pin size...

Which blade to use depends on the blade tang thickness... just get a matching one...


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Just to get things straight:
"Outer pins" are the 2 on the outsides of the SAK, "inner" is the one that holds the awl/corkscrew?
:think:
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Re: Pin size & blade replacement on a repair , HELP
Reply #3 on: February 26, 2017, 01:21:26 AM
Quote from: Mechanickal on February 25, 2017, 06:24:04 PM
Quote from: jaya_man on February 25, 2017, 05:40:36 PM
Pin sizes for 91mm are: 2.5mm for the outer pins and 2.2mm for the inner pins...

Unfortunately, I've never worked on a SAK with bail... won't be able to address you on the bail pin size...

Which blade to use depends on the blade tang thickness... just get a matching one...


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Just to get things straight:
"Outer pins" are the 2 on the outsides of the SAK, "inner" is the one that holds the awl/corkscrew?
:think:

HEY Mech-ster! :cheers:
I was goin with "OUTSIDE" pins = Pivot pins  /pin the blades/tools rotate on
"INNER" Pin = the CENTER or SPRING holding Pin

Thanks AGAIN , Jaya  8) ..........  :cheers:
I am guessing here ..... But I think the BAIL pin is same 2.5mm just runs through scale and bail and is peened. ANYBODY KNOW DIFFERENT?  ???



I will prolly tear into it tonite.  :D :whistle:
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Re: Pin size & blade replacement on a repair , HELP
Reply #4 on: February 26, 2017, 03:43:14 AM
Quote from: Mechanickal on February 25, 2017, 06:24:04 PM
Quote from: jaya_man on February 25, 2017, 05:40:36 PM
Pin sizes for 91mm are: 2.5mm for the outer pins and 2.2mm for the inner pins...

Unfortunately, I've never worked on a SAK with bail... won't be able to address you on the bail pin size...

Which blade to use depends on the blade tang thickness... just get a matching one...


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Just to get things straight:
"Outer pins" are the 2 on the outsides of the SAK, "inner" is the one that holds the awl/corkscrew?
:think:
Yes, that is correct... 2 outer pins and 2 inner pins...


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Re: Pin size & blade replacement on a repair , HELP
Reply #5 on: February 26, 2017, 03:48:26 AM
 :rant: DANG......... NO Luck on Main Blade..... all my donors are too thin...I need one that is  OLDER and a THICKER blade! :facepalm: :bnghd:

all my TINKER & SPARTAN donors are too new = too thin  :facepalm:  :D

Thought i had a old broke bail FISHERMAN with good blade...... But it was snapped off at tang, it was the lil clip that was useable. :bnghd:


Oh well for now.......................  :-\



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Re: Pin size & blade replacement on a repair , HELP
Reply #6 on: February 26, 2017, 08:42:20 AM
An old pioneer might do it...
But then again, I'd hate butchering a pioneer...
Then yet again, they can be (re)bought brand new, unlike this SAK...

Glad I'm not in your shoes buddy! I hate choices like that...
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Re: Pin size & blade replacement on a repair , HELP
Reply #7 on: February 26, 2017, 02:07:56 PM
Didn't the thinning of the blades start in the '90/'00? Then shouldn't something like an '80-ies donor would do the trick while not having the same collectable value?
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Re: Pin size & blade replacement on a repair , HELP
Reply #8 on: February 26, 2017, 05:22:31 PM
If thicknesses is the only problem you could make a spacer.


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Re: Pin size & blade replacement on a repair , HELP
Reply #9 on: February 27, 2017, 10:20:19 AM
Cali, I have an old Spartan with the thicker tang blade you are welcome to for free - pm me your address if you're interested.  :salute:
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Re: Pin size & blade replacement on a repair , HELP
Reply #10 on: February 27, 2017, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: magentus on February 27, 2017, 10:20:19 AM
Cali, I have an old Spartan with the thicker tang blade you are welcome to for free - pm me your address if you're interested.  :salute:
How Kind!  :woohoo: THANKS! :hatsoff:
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Re: Pin size & blade replacement on a repair , HELP
Reply #11 on: February 27, 2017, 12:10:15 PM
Here's Medical Bill and Mini-Mags 'Buffing up the Spartan' as they like to call it, ready for transportation to Sunny California:
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Re: Pin size & blade replacement on a repair , HELP
Reply #12 on: March 16, 2017, 07:05:20 PM
Honestly, The main blade doesn't look that bad if you don't feel like you can do it yourself you can take it to a knife shop and have them reprofile and resharpen it. Have them do the small blade as well. It will only take then a few minutes to it freehand on a belt sander. polish the blades first before taking it in.

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