Leatherman did a sliding plier head tool to try and steal some of the military contracts that call for a sliding head plier tool. Many military agencies like the Gerbers, but they can't only open a contract to only one manufacturer, so they stipulated something in the contract that would take the other competitors out thanks to Gerber's patent.When the patent expired, Leatherman had the OHT already designed and ready to go, so they could get right on stealing those contracts.Except that the OHT is much more expensive, bulkier and with no significant improvements over the MP600, which kind of defeats the purpose of having it in the first place. Def
...IMO sliding pliers is win.
Quote from: zoidberg on March 31, 2017, 11:20:57 AM...IMO sliding pliers is win.Why do you think that? I can see some cases where sliding pliers are advantageous but in general I feel the usual, butterfly opening style MTs are more versatile when it comes to using the rest of the implements.
Quote from: firiki on March 31, 2017, 11:29:43 AMQuote from: zoidberg on March 31, 2017, 11:20:57 AM...IMO sliding pliers is win.Why do you think that? I can see some cases where sliding pliers are advantageous but in general I feel the usual, butterfly opening style MTs are more versatile when it comes to using the rest of the implements.Easier to disengage a jam. Deployment. Jaws open wider. Simple strong design. Different handle pivots.I also like sog's geared pliers but feel the rest of their tool design lets them down.Totally understand butterfly openers have their good points, just found once I put some wear on them they can be annoying.
Quote from: zoidberg on March 31, 2017, 11:44:18 AMQuote from: firiki on March 31, 2017, 11:29:43 AMQuote from: zoidberg on March 31, 2017, 11:20:57 AM...IMO sliding pliers is win.Why do you think that? I can see some cases where sliding pliers are advantageous but in general I feel the usual, butterfly opening style MTs are more versatile when it comes to using the rest of the implements.Easier to disengage a jam. Deployment. Jaws open wider. Simple strong design. Different handle pivots.I also like sog's geared pliers but feel the rest of their tool design lets them down.Totally understand butterfly openers have their good points, just found once I put some wear on them they can be annoying.Agreed on pliers, I don't get different handle pivots, could you explain? Butterfly style, you mean like the handles loosening and moving around freely?Good thing I'm a SAK/knife guy and sold on my Swisstools so don't intend to look any further (unless something catches my attention).
Quote from: firiki on March 31, 2017, 12:53:11 PMQuote from: zoidberg on March 31, 2017, 11:44:18 AMQuote from: firiki on March 31, 2017, 11:29:43 AMQuote from: zoidberg on March 31, 2017, 11:20:57 AM...IMO sliding pliers is win.Why do you think that? I can see some cases where sliding pliers are advantageous but in general I feel the usual, butterfly opening style MTs are more versatile when it comes to using the rest of the implements.Easier to disengage a jam. Deployment. Jaws open wider. Simple strong design. Different handle pivots.I also like sog's geared pliers but feel the rest of their tool design lets them down.Totally understand butterfly openers have their good points, just found once I put some wear on them they can be annoying.Agreed on pliers, I don't get different handle pivots, could you explain? Butterfly style, you mean like the handles loosening and moving around freely?Good thing I'm a SAK/knife guy and sold on my Swisstools so don't intend to look any further (unless something catches my attention).I hear the Schrade Tough Tool is a good one to get hold of
Quote from: magentus on March 31, 2017, 12:58:02 PMQuote from: firiki on March 31, 2017, 12:53:11 PMQuote from: zoidberg on March 31, 2017, 11:44:18 AMQuote from: firiki on March 31, 2017, 11:29:43 AMQuote from: zoidberg on March 31, 2017, 11:20:57 AM...IMO sliding pliers is win.Why do you think that? I can see some cases where sliding pliers are advantageous but in general I feel the usual, butterfly opening style MTs are more versatile when it comes to using the rest of the implements.Easier to disengage a jam. Deployment. Jaws open wider. Simple strong design. Different handle pivots.I also like sog's geared pliers but feel the rest of their tool design lets them down.Totally understand butterfly openers have their good points, just found once I put some wear on them they can be annoying.Agreed on pliers, I don't get different handle pivots, could you explain? Butterfly style, you mean like the handles loosening and moving around freely?Good thing I'm a SAK/knife guy and sold on my Swisstools so don't intend to look any further (unless something catches my attention).I hear the Schrade Tough Tool is a good one to get hold of I don't trust you, magentus; you're probably just trying to get rid of the awl puns
Agreed on pliers, I don't get different handle pivots, could you explain? Butterfly style, you mean like the handles loosening and moving around freely?Good thing I'm a SAK/knife guy and sold on my Swisstools so don't intend to look any further (unless something catches my attention).