We hear the Spirit is the end all MT for many. Once you get it you're spoiled by its perfection that anything else is for fun only. I recently got a Zebralight SC52 L2 just after getting a Olight S1R. These are my first 2 higher quality lights so my views maybe a bit off in the grader scheme of lights. What I can say tho is the ZL is wonderful. I was hesitant because some have said the user interface UI was fiddly. I also was unsure which light to get. I ended up with this light because the options for cells it will accept. When I got the light I immediately went about familiarizing myself with it. I then chose the settings among the choices this light has. The great thing is even with my choices I still have, choices. On its lowest mode I still have the option of a bit more light. On its medium mode again another option for more light, same for high. There's a strobe so I'm a happy guy. I didn't and dont find the light to be fiddly at all actually. I will say you will have to familiarize yourself with it tho. I will also say if you aren't interested in programming the light no problem. Is it a light killer? It really should be but I like lights too much to give it that title. I'm now wanting a AAA version.
Zebralight Learning Curve: Grab light and push button with thumb, forgetting that (unlike any other torch that ever existed)depending how quick you do that depends what light you get - full power, minimum power, or a rapid scroll through levels. Swear at it! Push button lightly (as in soft press) for next level and wait to see which level is next. It goes off (but not immediately). Swear at it!Push button to turn it back on at a different speed, and light comes on at a different light level to before. Swear at it.Try double clicking it. The light changes two settings, but flickers the intermediate setting on it's way there. Feel the start of a headache coming on, and swear at it!Remember the "press and hold to change mode" thingy. Press and hold button. It goes too far before you let go and you get the light level after the one you wanted. Swear at it!Press button quicker to advance light mode slower, and it goes off. Swear at it loudly!Press button to turn back on, this time with eyes shut as you're getting frightened of giving yourself a seizure. Swear at it regardless of light level. Open eyes and assess which level the imp has chosen. Swear again regardless of result!Press and hold and whimper as the light cycles through the various levels as you try to time it to stop on the right one. With gritted teeth and misting eyes, finally achieve the required light level for the job at hand (praying it doesn't need more than one light level) Press the button to turn it off and it waits a fraction of a second just in case it's a double click. That's enough time for your brain to think you didn't press it right and tell your thumb to try again. By the time your thumb starts moving again the light has gone off so you end up turning it on again! SCREAM AT IT !!! Whilst still screaming, press the button more slowly and deliberately to make bloody sure the button works this time. Light level changes and stays on. Look at the window to decide if it's high enough to jump out of. Start to cryStop ... take a breath ... think clearly and press the button once and wait. Light goes off! Return light to drawer and pick up something else which hasn't been possessed by an evil spirit. Attempt to calm down and mend your wounded soul.Leave the light there until you've read enough posts at good people at MT.O who have tamed the beast with bright smiling faces and give it constant praise. Feel convinced it's worth trying it out again.Return to step 1 ......
If by "end all" you are referring to sanity, then by all means the Zebralight is the one I never got along with the control system on it. For those who haven't seen it yet, I did a write up on the Zebralight Learning Curve. Thank you for giving me an excuse to repost it .... and if anyone wants to buy mine, or trade for it, send me a PM!
Quote from: 50ft-trad on June 06, 2017, 02:44:56 PMIf by "end all" you are referring to sanity, then by all means the Zebralight is the one I never got along with the control system on it. For those who haven't seen it yet, I did a write up on the Zebralight Learning Curve. Thank you for giving me an excuse to repost it .... and if anyone wants to buy mine, or trade for it, send me a PM!I almost feel slightly guilty for being the one who sent you such a devilish contraption (almost ) ..... (but then again, I actually like the ZL user interface, possibly because I use it frequently)
Is it a light killer? It really should be but I like lights too much to give it that title. I'm now wanting a AAA version.
To save me trying to dig back for the info, can you remember which ZL it was?
Quote from: 50ft-trad on June 06, 2017, 04:22:48 PMTo save me trying to dig back for the info, can you remember which ZL it was?IIRC it was an (now) older Zebralight SC30 which run on a single CR123 battery (or rechargeable equivalent). Does that sound right ?
Great lights. End all light was more of a....... Hyperbole . Of course there is no good reason not to buy the next awesome light. I mean come on now David, what are we, barbaric?
I've yet to experience Nichia 219C however theres a small light that might be a good one, you know for "testing" purposes. Manker E02. Inexpensive. I've also still very much need to get a Armytek in warm.
If by "end all" you are referring to sanity, then by all means the Zebralight is the one I never got along with the control system on it. For those who haven't seen it yet, I did a write up on the Zebralight Learning Curve. Thank you for giving me an excuse to repost it QuoteZebralight Learning Curve: Grab light and push button with thumb, forgetting that (unlike any other torch that ever existed)depending how quick you do that depends what light you get - full power, minimum power, or a rapid scroll through levels. Swear at it! Push button lightly (as in soft press) for next level and wait to see which level is next. It goes off (but not immediately). Swear at it!Push button to turn it back on at a different speed, and light comes on at a different light level to before. Swear at it.Try double clicking it. The light changes two settings, but flickers the intermediate setting on it's way there. Feel the start of a headache coming on, and swear at it!Remember the "press and hold to change mode" thingy. Press and hold button. It goes too far before you let go and you get the light level after the one you wanted. Swear at it!Press button quicker to advance light mode slower, and it goes off. Swear at it loudly!Press button to turn back on, this time with eyes shut as you're getting frightened of giving yourself a seizure. Swear at it regardless of light level. Open eyes and assess which level the imp has chosen. Swear again regardless of result!Press and hold and whimper as the light cycles through the various levels as you try to time it to stop on the right one. With gritted teeth and misting eyes, finally achieve the required light level for the job at hand (praying it doesn't need more than one light level) Press the button to turn it off and it waits a fraction of a second just in case it's a double click. That's enough time for your brain to think you didn't press it right and tell your thumb to try again. By the time your thumb starts moving again the light has gone off so you end up turning it on again! SCREAM AT IT !!! Whilst still screaming, press the button more slowly and deliberately to make bloody sure the button works this time. Light level changes and stays on. Look at the window to decide if it's high enough to jump out of. Start to cryStop ... take a breath ... think clearly and press the button once and wait. Light goes off! Return light to drawer and pick up something else which hasn't been possessed by an evil spirit. Attempt to calm down and mend your wounded soul.Leave the light there until you've read enough posts at good people at MT.O who have tamed the beast with bright smiling faces and give it constant praise. Feel convinced it's worth trying it out again.Return to step 1 .......... and if anyone wants to buy mine, or trade for it, send me a PM!