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Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker 387

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Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« on: April 20, 2017, 03:39:01 PM »
Thought I'd show some comparison shots of my two mini-ratchets with the Phoenix Tinker.
The Sealey Ratchet is slightly shorter and thicker than the Topeak.
WP_20170420_002 by magpie2112, on FlickrWP_20170420_004 by magpie2112, on Flickr
Both have a two-way action, unlike the Vic ratchet. Both tools are solid - the Topeak is the more elegant looking tool, but the Sealey is probably easier for for people with chubby short hobbit fingers (me). I like both ratchets, (and they perform equally well), but the Topeak is of all-metal construction, whereas the Sealey has a plastic direction lever. The Topeak also has a thumb wheel for finer adjustments.
WP_20170420_006 by magpie2112, on Flickr
Both ratchets have a non-ratcheting socket to use as a more conventional screwdriver - the Topeak has a magnetic holder, the Sealey relies on a ring and ball mechanism - both good.
WP_20170420_007 by magpie2112, on Flickr
I can't see it makes a big difference, but the Topeak screams high quality (and is double the price of the Sealey). For your extra money though, you get a solidly made nylon pouch which houses 10 bits, a magnetic bit holder and a couple of plastic tyre levers.
WP_20170420_008 by magpie2112, on Flickr
Either of these high quality ratchets plus a 4" adjustable wrench, coupled with a SAK of your choice, (The Mighty Phoenix Tinker in this case), and you have a sweet mini tool kit. 
WP_20170420_010 by magpie2112, on Flickr

« Last Edit: April 20, 2017, 03:40:46 PM by magentus »



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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2017, 03:40:44 PM »
Nice outfit Bro!  :like:  :cheers:
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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2017, 03:44:23 PM »
 :like: !

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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2017, 03:45:08 PM »
Ah... ah... the Topeak finally arrived...... does the Sealy have an extender too?


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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2017, 03:45:47 PM »
Aww now I want a topeak.  :rant:  :drool: :drool:

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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2017, 03:56:16 PM »
Ah... ah... the Topeak finally arrived...... does the Sealy have an extender too?


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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2017, 03:57:23 PM »
Nice outfit Bro!  :like:  :cheers:
How do you know I'm wearing Twiglet? Are the sequins that bright?

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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2017, 04:01:40 PM »
Sometimes 2 ratchets are better than 1... If you know what I mean...



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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2017, 04:09:11 PM »
Sometimes 2 ratchets are better than 1... If you know what I mean...

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Doesn't that defy the laws of physics J-Man? I imagine that's how wormholes are started  :facepalm:

I happen to have three ratchets close by at the moment. If reality dies out in the wink of an eye, you'll know why.

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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2017, 04:16:43 PM »
Hahaha... just plain logic on my part... if needed, one ratchet can be used to apply force... the other to torque...


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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2017, 04:32:18 PM »
Got the Topeak myself last sunday. Love it!

Will post my comparison pic with my mini Bosch ratchet later today.

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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2017, 04:35:49 PM »
Got the Topeak myself last sunday. Love it!

Will post my comparison pic with my mini Bosch ratchet later today.
Great! Look forward to it - don't forget to include a SAK so we can keep it in the SAK section  :D

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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2017, 04:41:43 PM »



EDIT:

:rofl:
« Last Edit: April 20, 2017, 04:43:34 PM by Mechanickal »

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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2017, 04:47:14 PM »
Nice Mech-Nizzle  :salute: Thoughts on the differences between the two? Seems like all roads lead to the Topeak.  :cheers:

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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2017, 04:53:21 PM »
Nice outfit Bro!  :like:  :cheers:
How do you know I'm wearing Twiglet? Are the sequins that bright?

I know it's two-piece Thursday there, but if you dim the disco ball and the lava lamp, we won't notice so much.  :)

How difficult was it to find a phillips head bikini anyway?  :think:
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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2017, 04:55:48 PM »
Nice Mech-Nizzle  :salute: Thoughts on the differences between the two? Seems like all roads lead to the Topeak.  :cheers:
The Topeak feels like better F&F overall, although the Bosch is a decent contender.

Full specs here:
https://forum.multitool.o...g/index.php?topic=69755.0

The lever on the Bosch is larger, making it easier to use, but it also extrudes a bit.

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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2017, 05:00:53 PM »
Nice outfit Bro!  :like:  :cheers:
How do you know I'm wearing Twiglet? Are the sequins that bright?

I know it's two-piece Thursday there, but if you dim the disco ball and the lava lamp, we won't notice so much.  :)

How difficult was it to find a phillips head bikini anyway?  :think:
It's easy to find one but  hard to find a Fabulous one Twig my friend.

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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2017, 05:17:54 PM »
Nice outfit Bro!  :like:  :cheers:
How do you know I'm wearing Twiglet? Are the sequins that bright?

I know it's two-piece Thursday there, but if you dim the disco ball and the lava lamp, we won't notice so much.  :)

How difficult was it to find a phillips head bikini anyway?  :think:
It's easy to find one but  hard to find a Fabulous one Twig my friend.

I believe it! I mean it's tuff enuff to find a Fabulous Thunderbird these days...  :D

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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2017, 05:41:10 PM »
I was a fan of the Sealy, but now that I see the Topeak with that fine tuning thumb wheel, I think I'd like to get one of those.
I think the Sealy was more of a UK product when I first looked at them a week or two ago from another thread you had shown it in.
Thank you Mags for showing them side-by-side.
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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2017, 05:49:21 PM »
Nice outfit Bro!  :like:  :cheers:
How do you know I'm wearing Twiglet? Are the sequins that bright?
I did not catch this first time through.  Now I'm  :rofl:
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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2017, 07:45:30 PM »
Thought I'd show some comparison shots of my two mini-ratchets with the Phoenix Tinker.
The Sealey Ratchet is slightly shorter and thicker than the Topeak.
WP_20170420_002 by magpie2112, on FlickrWP_20170420_004 by magpie2112, on Flickr
Both have a two-way action, unlike the Vic ratchet. Both tools are solid - the Topeak is the more elegant looking tool, but the Sealey is probably easier for for people with chubby short hobbit fingers (me). I like both ratchets, (and they perform equally well), but the Topeak is of all-metal construction, whereas the Sealey has a plastic direction lever. The Topeak also has a thumb wheel for finer adjustments.
WP_20170420_006 by magpie2112, on Flickr
Both ratchets have a non-ratcheting socket to use as a more conventional screwdriver - the Topeak has a magnetic holder, the Sealey relies on a ring and ball mechanism - both good.
WP_20170420_007 by magpie2112, on Flickr
I can't see it makes a big difference, but the Topeak screams high quality (and is double the price of the Sealey). For your extra money though, you get a solidly made nylon pouch which houses 10 bits, a magnetic bit holder and a couple of plastic tyre levers.
WP_20170420_008 by magpie2112, on Flickr
Either of these high quality ratchets plus a 4" adjustable wrench, coupled with a SAK of your choice, (The Mighty Phoenix Tinker in this case), and you have a sweet mini tool kit. 
WP_20170420_010 by magpie2112, on Flickr

Very cool and informative post!   :tu: :tu:
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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2017, 08:23:06 PM »
Thought I'd show some comparison shots of my two mini-ratchets with the Phoenix Tinker.
The Sealey Ratchet is slightly shorter and thicker than the Topeak.
WP_20170420_002 by magpie2112, on FlickrWP_20170420_004 by magpie2112, on Flickr
Both have a two-way action, unlike the Vic ratchet. Both tools are solid - the Topeak is the more elegant looking tool, but the Sealey is probably easier for for people with chubby short hobbit fingers (me). I like both ratchets, (and they perform equally well), but the Topeak is of all-metal construction, whereas the Sealey has a plastic direction lever. The Topeak also has a thumb wheel for finer adjustments.
WP_20170420_006 by magpie2112, on Flickr
Both ratchets have a non-ratcheting socket to use as a more conventional screwdriver - the Topeak has a magnetic holder, the Sealey relies on a ring and ball mechanism - both good.
WP_20170420_007 by magpie2112, on Flickr
I can't see it makes a big difference, but the Topeak screams high quality (and is double the price of the Sealey). For your extra money though, you get a solidly made nylon pouch which houses 10 bits, a magnetic bit holder and a couple of plastic tyre levers.
WP_20170420_008 by magpie2112, on Flickr
Either of these high quality ratchets plus a 4" adjustable wrench, coupled with a SAK of your choice, (The Mighty Phoenix Tinker in this case), and you have a sweet mini tool kit. 
WP_20170420_010 by magpie2112, on Flickr

Very cool and informative post!   :tu: :tu:

+1  :like:

I seem to have missed this fact due to the earlier glare.  :D
Global Moderator Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 10,215 mmmmm SAKrelicious
Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2017, 09:10:31 PM »
Thought I'd show some comparison shots of my two mini-ratchets with the Phoenix Tinker.
The Sealey Ratchet is slightly shorter and thicker than the Topeak.
WP_20170420_002 by magpie2112, on FlickrWP_20170420_004 by magpie2112, on Flickr
Both have a two-way action, unlike the Vic ratchet. Both tools are solid - the Topeak is the more elegant looking tool, but the Sealey is probably easier for for people with chubby short hobbit fingers (me). I like both ratchets, (and they perform equally well), but the Topeak is of all-metal construction, whereas the Sealey has a plastic direction lever. The Topeak also has a thumb wheel for finer adjustments.
WP_20170420_006 by magpie2112, on Flickr
Both ratchets have a non-ratcheting socket to use as a more conventional screwdriver - the Topeak has a magnetic holder, the Sealey relies on a ring and ball mechanism - both good.
WP_20170420_007 by magpie2112, on Flickr
I can't see it makes a big difference, but the Topeak screams high quality (and is double the price of the Sealey). For your extra money though, you get a solidly made nylon pouch which houses 10 bits, a magnetic bit holder and a couple of plastic tyre levers.
WP_20170420_008 by magpie2112, on Flickr
Either of these high quality ratchets plus a 4" adjustable wrench, coupled with a SAK of your choice, (The Mighty Phoenix Tinker in this case), and you have a sweet mini tool kit. 
WP_20170420_010 by magpie2112, on Flickr

Very cool and informative post!   :tu: :tu:

+1  :like:

I seem to have missed this fact due to the earlier glare.  :D
Eyes up here buddy.

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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2017, 09:28:27 PM »
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Global Moderator Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 10,215 mmmmm SAKrelicious
Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2017, 09:38:11 PM »
I was a fan of the Sealy, but now that I see the Topeak with that fine tuning thumb wheel, I think I'd like to get one of those.
I think the Sealy was more of a UK product when I first looked at them a week or two ago from another thread you had shown it in.
Thank you Mags for showing them side-by-side.
:salute: The Topeak is better quality I think, but the Sealey has its own charm. I'll be a perfect Gemini and use them both  :D

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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2017, 11:45:56 AM »
Nice review, I hadn't seen that Sealey ratchet before (or the Bosch one).

Re the adjustable wrench, I like these Faithfull wide-jaw ones.  The 4" version opens to 25mm.
Global Moderator Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 10,215 mmmmm SAKrelicious
Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2017, 12:35:10 PM »
Nice review, I hadn't seen that Sealey ratchet before (or the Bosch one).

Re the adjustable wrench, I like these Faithfull wide-jaw ones.  The 4" version opens to 25mm.
Oh man! It's damaging my wallet looking at these threads.  :facepalm:

That looks very useful Shib-Fuzzle  :salute:

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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2017, 03:30:26 PM »
I like the look of that topeak one. I use a halfords professional 1/4 drive one, it's a bit heavy if you want to carry it and it doesn't have the bit driver bottom like that one does.  I used to carry it daily with my surge, but it sits in a drawer most of the time at work now, along with the little bahco.



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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2017, 03:33:11 PM »
I like the Bahco Kev  :tu: The Topeak disappears in your pocket. Lovely Vic level build quality.

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Re: Two Ratchets and the Phoenix Tinker
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2017, 02:21:19 PM »
I like the Bahco Kev  :tu: The Topeak disappears in your pocket. Lovely Vic level build quality.
I just hate pulling sets apart, so mine went in my weekend bag as a complete set :facepalm:

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