Yeah I've had all these files and sogs are the worst on any MT,I just don't get why they produce such a crap file it's tottaly useless, of course I was always spoilt early on by the 1st Gen waves file ,leatherman make a usefull file for sure,but I still can't get my head around Sogs bad effort of a file, this is what put me off sog in the past,
Quote from: Zed on April 29, 2017, 03:05:58 PMYeah I've had all these files and sogs are the worst on any MT,I just don't get why they produce such a crap file it's tottaly useless, of course I was always spoilt early on by the 1st Gen waves file ,leatherman make a usefull file for sure,but I still can't get my head around Sogs bad effort of a file, this is what put me off sog in the past, They are very useless Luckily sogs saws are decent so I swapped out the file for a saw on my SOG PPP - lovely MT by the way
My older (USA) Sogs have fine files. The newer files.... I don't know why bother when you can put something else there. I just got a tool clip and the "file" is bad even for Chinese junk. Just totally smooth.
It's actually pretty disgusting given Sog's price point. These are not cheap tools.
Someone should send an MT back to SOG under warranty and tell them you got a defective file. See what they say...
To be fair the file on my SOG worked when I needed it. Wasn't a lot just a nail sticking out from someone doing a DIY fix of a door knob without paying attention to detail
Quote from: styx on September 10, 2017, 01:47:42 PMTo be fair the file on my SOG worked when I needed it. Wasn't a lot just a nail sticking out from someone doing a DIY fix of a door knob without paying attention to detailWhat tool were you using? I can't even file my fingernails with most of my SOG files.
Leatherman do not make their own files. Or several other fine-tooled parts. The issue for Leatherman isn't going abroad to take advantage of lower quality, cheaper manufacturing traditions. The opposite. They use modern manufacturing facilities in Europe which are equal or even superior to American firms. Neither are the European parts necessarily cheaper. Europe is very advanced in metallurgical industry. A company that won a bid to make a knife for US Navy Seals ended up requiring European machinery and metal to meet the specs to which they agreed.SOG ought to be careful, as we will, sooner rather than later, see Chinese multi tools of equal or better quality than US firms contracting to Chinese firms. Leatherman is not likely to be surpassed, nor the Swiss company Victorinox. But SOG and Gerber are often uneven in quality despite a specific clever and well-done improvement of a given tool. To me the Gold Standard is probably the Swiss Tool Spirit, or even the bigger Swiss Tool, and the Surge. SOG and Gerber can do their own thing, but they should imitate quality. They have quality in their own history!
Quote from: israelpiper on January 18, 2018, 10:57:45 PMLeatherman do not make their own files. Or several other fine-tooled parts. The issue for Leatherman isn't going abroad to take advantage of lower quality, cheaper manufacturing traditions. The opposite. They use modern manufacturing facilities in Europe which are equal or even superior to American firms. Neither are the European parts necessarily cheaper. Europe is very advanced in metallurgical industry. A company that won a bid to make a knife for US Navy Seals ended up requiring European machinery and metal to meet the specs to which they agreed.SOG ought to be careful, as we will, sooner rather than later, see Chinese multi tools of equal or better quality than US firms contracting to Chinese firms. Leatherman is not likely to be surpassed, nor the Swiss company Victorinox. But SOG and Gerber are often uneven in quality despite a specific clever and well-done improvement of a given tool. To me the Gold Standard is probably the Swiss Tool Spirit, or even the bigger Swiss Tool, and the Surge. SOG and Gerber can do their own thing, but they should imitate quality. They have quality in their own history! I agree mate,I've owned many spyderco U.S made ones and these Ganzo I got recently with benchmade type axis locks are actually pretty amazing knives for the money,chin has seriously up it's game over the last fee years for sure .