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111mm variant with inline awl instead of can opener! 1495

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Re: 111mm variant with inline awl instead of can opener!
« Reply #60 on: May 13, 2017, 06:01:39 PM »
Still waiting.... :whistle:  At this rate I may go to Switzerland to pick it up!

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Re: 111mm variant with inline awl instead of can opener!
« Reply #61 on: May 14, 2017, 12:53:39 PM »
Fun fact: this model is not flawless. I would say flawled but that's an awlful joke :facepalm:

But seriously: when opened, the awl pushes the liner and scale outwards. I'm surprised that Victorinox OK'd this design!



BTW, it looks like they designed a new stainless steel spacer to make up for the difference in thickness between the opener layer and the awl.
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Re: 111mm variant with inline awl instead of can opener!
« Reply #62 on: May 14, 2017, 12:55:44 PM »
Oh my... Thats not good.  :o
That will either wear the liner and bend it permanently or loosen the rivet, or both, right?  :ahhh

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Re: 111mm variant with inline awl instead of can opener!
« Reply #63 on: May 14, 2017, 12:58:48 PM »
Oh my... Thats not good.  :o
That will either wear the liner and bend it permanently or loosen the rivet, or both, right?  :ahhh

I'm afraid you're right. The rivets getting loose is not good at awl. Excuse the pun.
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Re: 111mm variant with inline awl instead of can opener!
« Reply #64 on: May 17, 2017, 02:56:04 PM »
Fun fact: this model is not flawless. I would say flawled but that's an awlful joke :facepalm:

But seriously: when opened, the awl pushes the liner and scale outwards. I'm surprised that Victorinox OK'd this design!

(Image removed from quote.)

BTW, it looks like they designed a new stainless steel spacer to make up for the difference in thickness between the opener layer and the awl.

And considering that torque is applied to the awl this is an accident waiting to happen. :facepalm:
I'll remove it from my wishlist, that's a shame.

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Re: 111mm variant with inline awl instead of can opener!
« Reply #65 on: May 17, 2017, 03:05:40 PM »
Oh my... Thats not good.  :o
That will either wear the liner and bend it permanently or loosen the rivet, or both, right?  :ahhh

I'm afraid you're right. The rivets getting loose is not good at awl. Excuse the pun.

Considering how easy the awl opens and how easy the liner makes room for it, it's very well possible that the pin was "tightened" with the awl opened, leaving enough space for the awl to move freely. Not an ideal solution and nothing for Vic to be proud of, but I don't really think there is a danger of the pin bushing to break off.  :think:

But if you want to be sure about this, someone should remove the scales and take a look at the pin and bushings  ::)
« Last Edit: May 17, 2017, 03:07:05 PM by glenfiddich1983 »

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Re: 111mm variant with inline awl instead of can opener!
« Reply #66 on: May 17, 2017, 07:23:06 PM »
Maybe this will help Victorinox realize the need for a dedicated 111mm model inline monster awl? 
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Re: 111mm variant with inline awl instead of can opener!
« Reply #67 on: May 18, 2017, 10:53:04 AM »
Fun fact: this model is not flawless. I would say flawled but that's an awlful joke :facepalm:

But seriously: when opened, the awl pushes the liner and scale outwards. I'm surprised that Victorinox OK'd this design!

(Image removed from quote.)

BTW, it looks like they designed a new stainless steel spacer to make up for the difference in thickness between the opener layer and the awl.


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Re: 111mm variant with inline awl instead of can opener!
« Reply #68 on: May 19, 2017, 08:55:15 PM »
I got one as well. A little attention from the Dremel will sort out the in line awl problem. I've just had a good look at mine and there is an additional spacer between the backspring for the awl and the scale, so it 'should' stay tight. Time will tell.

« Last Edit: May 19, 2017, 09:09:20 PM by Smashie »

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Re: 111mm variant with inline awl instead of can opener!
« Reply #69 on: May 20, 2017, 01:36:06 PM »
Got mine as well after getting hit with huge custom charges :rant:  This is a great knife and the awl 'problem' will be sorted by wear of the awl on the aluminium liner or, as smashie said, use a dremel.

And no one's mentioned the secret pin yet....
« Last Edit: May 20, 2017, 02:21:23 PM by Guardian »

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Re: 111mm variant with inline awl instead of can opener!
« Reply #70 on: May 20, 2017, 01:54:46 PM »

And no ones mentioned the secret pin yet....

I did!
But on Facebook :facepalm:
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Re: 111mm variant with inline awl instead of can opener!
« Reply #71 on: May 20, 2017, 02:23:37 PM »

And no ones mentioned the secret pin yet....

I did!
But on Facebook :facepalm:

Well!  Now we know where your true allegiance lies! :pok:  :D

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Re: 111mm variant with inline awl instead of can opener!
« Reply #72 on: May 20, 2017, 07:34:20 PM »
He came to me too. Ask if Victorinox will improve the awl, and if so then when?
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Re: 111mm variant with inline awl instead of can opener!
« Reply #73 on: May 20, 2017, 10:31:00 PM »
Makes me sad them putting out a knife like that.
I know nothing about the cost of design and production etc and I don't spend a lot.
But I'm just not seeing that they cared with this design and if they don't then how am I suppose to?
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Re: 111mm variant with inline awl instead of can opener!
« Reply #74 on: May 22, 2017, 02:09:29 AM »
Does seem a little sloppy for them. Not having any type of Philips driver though is a deal breaker for me. Wonder if they're using that scale on any other 111mm knives.


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