84mm with Scissors

[this_is_nascar]

Anyone know why there is no longer an 84mm Vic with scissors?


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[captain spaulding]

Not sure why they stopped but it's been a long time since they made a 84mm with scissors.

[cody6268]

Probably because they think the rebranded Wengers are good enough.

[ulli]

Its because the knife from the machine used for the 84 mm scissors got broken. So they calculated if they should invest in a new knife or not. Sadly, they didn't.

[this_is_nascar]

Thanks for the replies everyone.

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[El Corkscrew]

Its because the knife from the machine used for the 84 mm scissors got broken. So they calculated if they should invest in a new knife or not. Sadly, they didn't.

True story?  Due to broken equipment?

[ulli]

Thats what a former victorinox employee told me...

[El Corkscrew]

Thats what a former victorinox employee told me...

 
Fascinating

[Huntsman]

Absolutely .....

And I read somewhere that the scissors are the most expensive tool to make on a SAK
- So if your machine to make them is kaput - This makes sense I guess - Not to re-invest

I know many here rue the day !! Including me

Probably because they think the rebranded Wengers are good enough.

Definitely not this
- As Delemonts have only been around only for a couple of years
- And 84mm scissors have not been around for a couple of decades I think 

Although I guess Vic may have decided not to compete with Wenger on the 84/5 length too much

[El Corkscrew]

Absolutely .....

And I read somewhere that the scissors are the most expensive tool to make on a SAK
- So if your machine to make them is kaput - This makes sense I guess - Not to re-invest

I know many here rue the day !! Including me

Probably because they think the rebranded Wengers are good enough.

Definitely not this
- As Delemonts have only been around only for a couple of years
- And 84mm scissors have not been around for a couple of decades I think 

Although I guess Vic may have decided not to compete with Wenger on the 84/5 length too much

I feel that, I still don't have a single 84mm scissor to speak of 

[MacGyver]

Interesting story, never thought it could be because of that... It makes sense though...

Sadly, given that fact and the fact they are now producing (as Vic's) most of the former Wenger 85 mm line, i don't think scissor's or any 84mm sak with more tools will ever be made available in current production again. 
They could also try and incorporate the Wenger scissor's on the 84mm models, but with all the 85mm models for customers to choose, not to mention the cost of developing new parts for that to work (new liners and new springs) from would it be economically viable or profitable for them? I don't think so, unfortunately...

At the end of the day only us, fans, enthusiastic users or collectors really care about it. The average Sak user will not really care if it's a 85mm ex Wnger type or a 84mm Vic type. As long as it has blades and scissor's on it they are all good 

[shibafu]

I don't agree with the justification that 84mm competes with Wenger 85mm.  To me the Wenger 85mm is more like Victorinox 91mm in overall size.  The 84mm is much slimmer.

[MacGyver]

I don't agree with the justification that 84mm competes with Wenger 85mm.  To me the Wenger 85mm is more like Victorinox 91mm in overall size.  The 84mm is much slimmer.

Yes, but "slimness" is the only real difference between the two current models. The main reason for that is the Evolution/Evigrip scales. If you put a regular scaled type 85mm Wenger against a 84mm Vic there is almost no real difference in size. The 1mm difference in length is neglectable

[shibafu]

Yes, but "slimness" is the only real difference between the two current models. The main reason for that is the Evolution/Evigrip scales. If you put a regular scaled type 85mm Wenger against a 84mm Vic there is almost no real difference in size. The 1mm difference in length is neglectable

Aren't the 85mm also wider than the 84mm, even with regular scales?  Don't have one here to check but that's my impression.  In any case, 85mm with regular scales don't exist any more as current models.