Quote from: mcrib on June 13, 2017, 08:30:08 PMQuote from: El Corkscrew on May 31, 2017, 09:04:04 AMI do want to say that this is probably not everyone's experience. I've been comparing Vic & Wengers from the same year in my collection: '89, '94, '99, and an unstamped Wenger which I'm comparing with an '08 and a Pioneer. Definitely more snap with Vic the '89 and '94 (the Vic '94 has the thicker tools). For the later ones, I honestly don't feel or hear much of a difference. Watching Swissbianco videos, he has commented that older Wenger springs tend to wear out a bit more than Vic. Basically, I'm super paranoid about saying anything negative about these knives, AWL Wengers I've seen are awlsome. I just prefer Vic... just by a little bit. I've been wondering why the Wenger SIs have a softer snap compared to their Victorinox counterparts. I have a not very worn 97 Wenger SI with bail (and hollow rivet!) that I really like, but the snap kind of bugged me especially when I compare it to my modern Pioneer. Is it simply weaker spring? I started examining the tang pivot shape (not sure of the exact term but the rounded part that rubs against the spring when you open and close the blade) to see if maybe the Vic had a sharper edge at the end of the curve that caused the blade to pop open more strongly, akin to how the bottle opener tool has the half stop because the tang pivot shape is squared/flat instead of round. Anyways, this is when I noticed that the Vic's tang pivot extends out further past the pivot hole than the Wenger's. It actually looks like the curve ends a little further up on the Vic also. This could at least contribute to the Vic's stronger snap since it's pushing the spring out further right before it snaps open. This is also putting more strain on the spring which could wear out the Vic's spring faster. Finally, another plus for the Wenger side!Though I like the snap of the Vic, especially on the Waiters, I'm going to tell myself that the soft snap of the Wenger SI is actually more refined and smoother with a better transition. SI's are known to have a stronger spring and snap compared to a Vic.I known mine is.
Quote from: El Corkscrew on May 31, 2017, 09:04:04 AMI do want to say that this is probably not everyone's experience. I've been comparing Vic & Wengers from the same year in my collection: '89, '94, '99, and an unstamped Wenger which I'm comparing with an '08 and a Pioneer. Definitely more snap with Vic the '89 and '94 (the Vic '94 has the thicker tools). For the later ones, I honestly don't feel or hear much of a difference. Watching Swissbianco videos, he has commented that older Wenger springs tend to wear out a bit more than Vic. Basically, I'm super paranoid about saying anything negative about these knives, AWL Wengers I've seen are awlsome. I just prefer Vic... just by a little bit. I've been wondering why the Wenger SIs have a softer snap compared to their Victorinox counterparts. I have a not very worn 97 Wenger SI with bail (and hollow rivet!) that I really like, but the snap kind of bugged me especially when I compare it to my modern Pioneer. Is it simply weaker spring? I started examining the tang pivot shape (not sure of the exact term but the rounded part that rubs against the spring when you open and close the blade) to see if maybe the Vic had a sharper edge at the end of the curve that caused the blade to pop open more strongly, akin to how the bottle opener tool has the half stop because the tang pivot shape is squared/flat instead of round. Anyways, this is when I noticed that the Vic's tang pivot extends out further past the pivot hole than the Wenger's. It actually looks like the curve ends a little further up on the Vic also. This could at least contribute to the Vic's stronger snap since it's pushing the spring out further right before it snaps open. This is also putting more strain on the spring which could wear out the Vic's spring faster. Finally, another plus for the Wenger side!Though I like the snap of the Vic, especially on the Waiters, I'm going to tell myself that the soft snap of the Wenger SI is actually more refined and smoother with a better transition.
I do want to say that this is probably not everyone's experience. I've been comparing Vic & Wengers from the same year in my collection: '89, '94, '99, and an unstamped Wenger which I'm comparing with an '08 and a Pioneer. Definitely more snap with Vic the '89 and '94 (the Vic '94 has the thicker tools). For the later ones, I honestly don't feel or hear much of a difference. Watching Swissbianco videos, he has commented that older Wenger springs tend to wear out a bit more than Vic. Basically, I'm super paranoid about saying anything negative about these knives, AWL Wengers I've seen are awlsome. I just prefer Vic... just by a little bit.
Quote from: SteveC on June 13, 2017, 10:08:45 PMQuote from: mcrib on June 13, 2017, 08:30:08 PMQuote from: El Corkscrew on May 31, 2017, 09:04:04 AMI do want to say that this is probably not everyone's experience. I've been comparing Vic & Wengers from the same year in my collection: '89, '94, '99, and an unstamped Wenger which I'm comparing with an '08 and a Pioneer. Definitely more snap with Vic the '89 and '94 (the Vic '94 has the thicker tools). For the later ones, I honestly don't feel or hear much of a difference. Watching Swissbianco videos, he has commented that older Wenger springs tend to wear out a bit more than Vic. Basically, I'm super paranoid about saying anything negative about these knives, AWL Wengers I've seen are awlsome. I just prefer Vic... just by a little bit. I've been wondering why the Wenger SIs have a softer snap compared to their Victorinox counterparts. I have a not very worn 97 Wenger SI with bail (and hollow rivet!) that I really like, but the snap kind of bugged me especially when I compare it to my modern Pioneer. Is it simply weaker spring? I started examining the tang pivot shape (not sure of the exact term but the rounded part that rubs against the spring when you open and close the blade) to see if maybe the Vic had a sharper edge at the end of the curve that caused the blade to pop open more strongly, akin to how the bottle opener tool has the half stop because the tang pivot shape is squared/flat instead of round. Anyways, this is when I noticed that the Vic's tang pivot extends out further past the pivot hole than the Wenger's. It actually looks like the curve ends a little further up on the Vic also. This could at least contribute to the Vic's stronger snap since it's pushing the spring out further right before it snaps open. This is also putting more strain on the spring which could wear out the Vic's spring faster. Finally, another plus for the Wenger side!Though I like the snap of the Vic, especially on the Waiters, I'm going to tell myself that the soft snap of the Wenger SI is actually more refined and smoother with a better transition. SI's are known to have a stronger spring and snap compared to a Vic.I known mine is.This depends on the manufacturing period I presume, I have a 91 SI with strong snap and two unstamped SI from 2008+ that have a much weaker/smoother snap :-)