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Who would buy a carbon steel Pioneer? 783

Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 7,241
Re: Who would buy a carbon steel Pioneer?
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2018, 07:38:05 PM »
5160, D2, A2, 52100, CPM M4 just to name a few.  I might very well be wrong but Carbon doesn't have to mean rusting is guaranteed or high level of care must be taken.  Steels have come a long way since 1095 or whatever from days past.
     

True, but when someone states "carbon" without stating the actual alloy, I automatically think 1095.  D2, for example, is not what I think of at all.

One thing I love about Vic steel is the ease of sharpening, and their knifes aren't designed to be hard-use cutters.  D2 is in another category.

- Terry

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Re: Who would buy a carbon steel Pioneer?
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2018, 08:00:30 PM »
Totally agree.   :tu:

I was more prompting some further thought/conversation.  Lots of good Carbon Steel out there.  Vic steel is very easily maintained no question.  We have had some members tho struggle with getting theirs up to snuff.  I think as some move to other steels they also move to other means of maintaining their edges.  It kind of goes hand in hand in my mind  :dunno:

Saying for example,  X steel is hard to sharpen so I wont try it, seems off.  As knife people I'd imagine as the interest in steel choices grows so does the understanding of how to care for the edge.         

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Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 7,241
Re: Who would buy a carbon steel Pioneer?
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2018, 08:33:37 PM »
Good point.  I've been sharpening Vic SS for a very long time, so it's second nature, and 1095 is similar enough.

I'll admit I still haven't become proficient at sharpening D2....

- Terry

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Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 7,245 I'm blue!
Re: Who would buy a carbon steel Pioneer?
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2018, 08:34:47 PM »
When I got my Fallkniven U2 I had to get the DC4 as well, because the knife wouldn´t sharpen on a whetstone.  8)
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Re: Who would buy a carbon steel Pioneer?
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2018, 01:25:01 PM »
When I got my Fallkniven U2 I had to get the DC4 as well, because the knife wouldn´t sharpen on a whetstone.  8)

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Who would buy a carbon steel Pioneer?
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2018, 01:46:58 PM »
I would like to make one point. SAK steel and a good heat treated 1095, lets say, do not have near the same edge retention for me. I can wear down a SAK whittling or carving much quicker than a 1095 blade, in harder material such as hardwood or animal skin I think 1095 or similar steel wins every time. When you are cutting easier, softer stuff, it does not matter as much and is not as noticeable of a difference. Also, I do not push my SAKs to the point of snapping the blade, but carbon steel is supposed to me much more resilient to torque and other things than stainless. I think the SAK steel is great, but would love a 1095 option as well for harder use and cool factor. I feel that a Pioneer is constructed just as sturdily as any other slip joint, so I would not hesitate to use one hard if i needed to. Maybe one of us needs to do some kind of comparison if we can find a comparable carbon blade of good quality :think:
« Last Edit: October 12, 2018, 01:50:56 PM by gdoolittle »

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