Folding Knives for EDC

[pfrsantos]

The print screens.


We might build something big here, with pics and all, for reference.

Like a KnifeWiki?...

 

[kkokkolis]

These Junges are very pretty. I might add them, for historical reasons.


He mentions 3 types, or the 3rd is a general term? I see a wide blade and a narrow blade variation.



1. Nordfjord-junge (Vestlandsjunger, Hornindal-jung)
2.  Sunnfjord-junge
3. Trønderjunge?

[kkokkolis]

The print screens.


We might build something big here, with pics and all, for reference.

Like a KnifeWiki?...

 

Why not? To infinity and beyond!

[pfrsantos]

The print screens.


We might build something big here, with pics and all, for reference.

Like a KnifeWiki?...

 

Why not? To infinity and beyond!

[Steinar]

These Junges are very pretty. I might add them, for historical reasons.


He mentions 3 types, or the 3rd is a general term? I see a wide blade and a narrow blade variation.



1. Nordfjord-junge (Vestlandsjunger, Hornindal-jung)
2.  Sunnfjord-junge
3. Trønderjunge?

All of those are landscapes or areas in Norway, so it is junge-knives as they were made and used in those parts of the country. I think the classification, as with anything where there is tradition, but no standardization per se, would end up pretty complicated.

[kkokkolis]

I already invested some time on this and I think that it deserves to be continued up to whatever point. Even if we eventually will be having a low level of info, it will be better than what now exists. The data could act as a compass and help individuals, like newcomer collectors, enthusiasts etc.

All I need is that people here might provide data about their country's traditional folders that aren't already included.


There were up to 300 German states during some historical points (and rarely less than 70). I don't believe that all they got is the Mercator. The Latin states, which were less divided (up to 20 regions or states for each, after 1453, but 18th century would be our limit I guess), have a very nice diversity, as you can see. I supose that farmers, herders, hunters and fishers in Branderburg, Saxony, Thouringia, Westphalia etc would have different designs, influenced by the French, the Alpines, the Polls, the Skandinavians etc.


So, come on. Make a presentation of your local traditional knives, for all to enjoy.

[AimlessWanderer]

Here's a few links to details of stuff still available from Sheffield makers. It covers patterns you've already identified on your list, plus the full range of different pruners (Ettrick, peach pruner, full pruner), and such as pen knives (double ended sleeveboard style), sailing knives, pipe smoker knife, barlow variations .... blah, blah, blah 

https://www.eggintongroup.co.uk/brands/george-wostenholm.html
https://www.eggintongroup.co.uk/brands/ibberson.html
https://www.eggintongroup.co.uk/brands/joseph-rodgers.html
http://taylors-eye-witness.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/pocket-knives-2016.pdf
http://www.penknives-and-scissors.co.uk/acatalog/Pen_and_pocket_knives.html
http://sheffield-made.com/acatalog/Pocket_Knives.html

There were a lot of other styles in the past, but they're long gone now

[kkokkolis]

Thank you!


I see sheepfoot is lambfoot on this side of the Atlantic (although it looks like a hybrid with Warncliffe).

[AimlessWanderer]

Sheepsfoot is parallel, whereas the Lambsfoot tapers - kind of a hybrid of the Sheepsfoot and Wharncliffe. The farmers knives, military clasp knives, and some sailing/rope knives tend to be sheepsfoot

[kkokkolis]

Got it.

[Ron Who]

Here's a few links to details of stuff still available from Sheffield makers. It covers patterns you've already identified on your list, plus the full range of different pruners (Ettrick, peach pruner, full pruner), and such as pen knives (double ended sleeveboard style), sailing knives, pipe smoker knife, barlow variations .... blah, blah, blah 

https://www.eggintongroup.co.uk/brands/george-wostenholm.html
https://www.eggintongroup.co.uk/brands/ibberson.html
https://www.eggintongroup.co.uk/brands/joseph-rodgers.html
http://taylors-eye-witness.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/pocket-knives-2016.pdf
http://www.penknives-and-scissors.co.uk/acatalog/Pen_and_pocket_knives.html
http://sheffield-made.com/acatalog/Pocket_Knives.html

There were a lot of other styles in the past, but they're long gone now

 

[kkokkolis]

After adding the AngloSaxon designs and updating with many Italian ones, we are up to the number 185!


Please continue the flow of information gentlemen.

[kkokkolis]

And the coda...

[an0nemus]

I'm surprised there aren't much Asian knives here.


Does our Balisong qualify in your list, kkokkolis?


(knives not mine)

[kkokkolis]

I'm surprised there aren't much Asian knives here.


Does our Balisong qualify in your list, kkokkolis?


(knives not mine)


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Yes, of course. It is original and iconic. Are there different types? It originated in Phillipines or somewhere else? Which are the prominent makers?

[an0nemus]

I'm surprised there aren't much Asian knives here.


Does our Balisong qualify in your list, kkokkolis?


(knives not mine)


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Yes, of course. It is original and iconic. Are there different types? It originated in Phillipines or somewhere else? Which are the prominent makers?

It's embarrassing to admit this, but I know little about this knife's history as I grew up in the South (whereas this was designed in the North) of the Philippines. As far as I know, this originated in our country Here's a quick wiki link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_knife


The prominent makers are still based in a village called Balisong in the province of Batangas in Northern Luzon. The most prominent inside and outside our country is Dado. Here is his FAcebook page

https://www.facebook.com/Onas-Batangas-Blades-135593273128543/

[kkokkolis]

OK. Adding this and some German and Norvegian designs (such as Ankermesser, Jagdtaschenmesser and the Junges) we are at 195. When we reach 200 I'll post the list again.


Thank you!

[an0nemus]

OK. Adding this and some German and Norvegian designs (such as Ankermesser, Jagdtaschenmesser and the Junges) we are at 195. When we reach 200 I'll post the list again.


Thank you!

Welcome! Im glad our knife will be represented in your list 

[ThePeacent]

I see you added one knife from my country, but I'd add another one, the Pallares

made in Solsona, Catalonia, slipjoint, carbon steel or stainless available

Also called "Navalla" (Navaja in Catalan), "Faca" (like in South America and Portugal) or "Trinxell"

 

[pfrsantos]

I see you added one knife from my country, but I'd add another one, the Pallares

made in Solsona, Catalonia, slipjoint, carbon steel or stainless available

Also called "Navalla" (Navaja in Catalan), "Faca" (like in South America and Portugal) or "Trinxell"

 

In Portugal, we also use the word navalha for folding knives (and straight razors - navalhas de barbear). For us, folding knives can be refered indistinctely as navalhas ou canivetes. Usually, the first term is more "aggressive". The small Palaçoulo and Corta-e-Pica are called canivetes, the Caneças is a navalha.

Faca is used for non-folding, like hunting knives or kitchen knives.

[kkokkolis]

Pallares gives me 4 folders

Pocket knife Común
Pocket knife Ripollés
Pocket knife Gabacha
Pocket knife Mallorquina

I like them, they look like proper penny knives, at least as much as the Peasant and Sodbuster and Victorinox Eco.

They also have some more luxury ones.

Busa
Pedraforca
Pirineu
Pastor
Pescador
Pica
Ares
Trabukaire

[an0nemus]

This thread inspired me to get a Balisong 

[Poncho65]

Some very nice work in this thread guys

[kkokkolis]

Major Update. We are up to 234 knife designs.


In fact, everything that can be described as a folder, but not as a tactical, is included, provided I had knowledge of its existence up to this point.


Some designs seem to be variations of others. Nevertheless I included them if they had both different blade AND handle. One might argue for Opinel, Douk-Douk and SAKs that I have only one reference for each, but either the blade has the same shape in different sizes, or the shame basic concept for the handle (sometimes the shape changes to adapt to the blade shape).


Italians lead the course of pocket knife history with 103 designs, with French following with 46. Overall there seems to be a South school (mostly Latin countries with 165 designs) with basic characteristis the use of wood or other organic materials for a handle and simplicity. In Spain there are several designs, but I didn't recognize an established typology, so I classified the knives as variations of the Navaja (and indeed they look like variations).
Then the UK/US designs count 44 combined. There seems to be a Northen school (mostly Germanic and AngloSaxon countries with 61 designs) where one will find the multi layers/blades, the plastic handles (but also organic), the industrial look.
Asians and Africans have a long history of knife making, but mostly on fixed blades it seems. The pocket blade history parallels the history of European and Colonial clothing, with pants, pockets and authority supression of open carry in urban enviroment, therefore the pocket knife value skyrocketed in our countries.
In Greece we followed an AfroAsian culture. People would wear proudly their highly decorated fixed blade knife in their waist, as one can see in traditional clothing of Greece. Recently,with urbanization, pocket knife value got higher and we adopted established designs from Opinel and Victorinox mostly. The same happened around the Balcans, where mainly Bulgaria had a reasonable tradition of pocket knives.


The list isn't full, so I wait for your contributions.

[Zed]

Two patterns I like to edc are the stockman and congress ,handy blade selection 

[kkokkolis]

The rest and pics of the way fixed blades were carried here, making pocket knives redundant.


PS: You see 233 knives but there is also the Arbalete by G. David (Thiers).

[kkokkolis]

I guess that's it for now.
If anyone is interested for the excel file, just ask for it and I'll send it to you, since there is no provision to be posted here.


Thanks guys.


Viva Italia and vive la France for pocket knife lovers also.

[pomsbz]

Respect!

[an0nemus]

I guess that's it for now.
If anyone is interested for the excel file, just ask for it and I'll send it to you, since there is no provision to be posted here.


Thanks guys.


Viva Italia and vive la France for pocket knife lovers also.

Thanks for adding the Balisong in the list! I sure would like to have a copy of the excel file. PM sent

[kkokkolis]

It isn't over until it's over, eternally true.
I classified some types of Navajas and Navalhas, the Barrel knife etc. Now we have 260 designs.