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Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?

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Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
on: August 09, 2017, 01:42:48 PM
Topic title said it all.
Can it be done?
If so, how?
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #1 on: August 09, 2017, 01:49:34 PM
Yes you can. The shield/cross is usable, but the scales will have at least a recess in then where it was. Or might be quite trashed

I have removed some by picking away at the edge with a sharp blade and then gently prying under the exposed edge.

With some you can push them out through a hole in the back of the scales.
I've reused the shields on wooden scales on some knives.
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #2 on: August 09, 2017, 02:13:39 PM
Quote from: PTRSAK on August 09, 2017, 01:49:34 PM
Yes you can. The shield/cross is usable, but the scales will have at least a recess in then where it was. Or might be quite trashed

I have removed some by picking away at the edge with a sharp blade and then gently prying under the exposed edge.

With some you can push them out through a hole in the back of the scales.
I've reused the shields on wooden scales on some knives.
I just placed custom wooden scales on a SAK and would like to add the shield.

I've got a set of completely trashed plus scales that are only good for the inlay.

So I cut away some material and pry underneath it?
How much should I cut? In other words, how thick is the inlay?
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #3 on: August 09, 2017, 02:19:40 PM
It worked!! :ahhh

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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #4 on: August 09, 2017, 02:20:05 PM
Quote from: PTRSAK on August 09, 2017, 01:49:34 PM

Yes you can. The shield/cross is usable, but the scales will have at least a recess in then where it was. Or might be quite trashed

I have removed some by picking away at the edge with a sharp blade and then gently prying under the exposed edge.

With some you can push them out through a hole in the back of the scales.
I've reused the shields on wooden scales on some knives.

This.

Just try to "remove" parts of the scale little by little. You might be able to split them in half if you use a knife, like batoning in a log.
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #5 on: August 09, 2017, 02:21:10 PM
Quote from: pfrsantos on August 09, 2017, 02:20:05 PM
Quote from: PTRSAK on August 09, 2017, 01:49:34 PM

Yes you can. The shield/cross is usable, but the scales will have at least a recess in then where it was. Or might be quite trashed

I have removed some by picking away at the edge with a sharp blade and then gently prying under the exposed edge.

With some you can push them out through a hole in the back of the scales.
I've reused the shields on wooden scales on some knives.

This.

Just try to "remove" parts of the scale little by little. You might be able to split them in half if you use a knife, like batoning in a log.

Aaand too late...
 :facepalm:

Well done! Show us some pics of the new scales.
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #6 on: August 09, 2017, 02:23:29 PM


Quote from: pfrsantos on August 09, 2017, 02:21:10 PM
Quote from: pfrsantos on August 09, 2017, 02:20:05 PM
Quote from: PTRSAK on August 09, 2017, 01:49:34 PM

Yes you can. The shield/cross is usable, but the scales will have at least a recess in then where it was. Or might be quite trashed

I have removed some by picking away at the edge with a sharp blade and then gently prying under the exposed edge.

With some you can push them out through a hole in the back of the scales.
I've reused the shields on wooden scales on some knives.

This.

Just try to "remove" parts of the scale little by little. You might be able to split them in half if you use a knife, like batoning in a log.

Aaand too late...
 :facepalm:

Well done! Show us some pics of the new scales.
 :pok: :pok:



Quote from: pfrsantos on August 09, 2017, 02:20:05 PM
Quote from: PTRSAK on August 09, 2017, 01:49:34 PM

Yes you can. The shield/cross is usable, but the scales will have at least a recess in then where it was. Or might be quite trashed

I have removed some by picking away at the edge with a sharp blade and then gently prying under the exposed edge.

With some you can push them out through a hole in the back of the scales.
I've reused the shields on wooden scales on some knives.

This.

Just try to "remove" parts of the scale little by little. You might be able to split them in half if you use a knife, like batoning in a log.

How do I attach it to the new scales now?
Glueing with alot of precision and patience?
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #7 on: August 09, 2017, 02:25:10 PM
Maybe carve a little into the scales, so as the logo would be flush with the surface?...

 :think: :think:

It's a very delicate thing to do, it might damage the scales.
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #8 on: August 09, 2017, 02:33:44 PM
I think Archerwin just uses glue and clamps the scale firmly - with a protector layer etc of course
He has a blog and a guide to do this.
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #9 on: August 09, 2017, 02:35:40 PM
Those scales look lush Nick  :salute:

I think you can carefully glue it and then build up layers of varnish until the shield is flush.

Great job BTW  :cheers:
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #10 on: August 09, 2017, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: magentus on August 09, 2017, 02:35:40 PM
Those scales look lush Nick  :salute:

I think you can carefully glue it and then build up layers of varnish until the shield is flush.

Great job BTW  :cheers:
Quote from: pfrsantos on August 09, 2017, 02:25:10 PM
Maybe carve a little into the scales, so as the logo would be flush with the surface?...

 :think: :think:

It's a very delicate thing to do, it might damage the scales.
Quote from: Huntsman on August 09, 2017, 02:33:44 PM
I think Archerwin just uses glue and clamps the scale firmly - with a protector layer etc of course
He has a blog and a guide to do this.
Thanks!

I am not planning on using any varnish though.
The wood is extremely tough and has a nice goldenlike glow to it thanks to the finish with mineral oil.

Carving it in is not something I'm willing to risk with these scales so it would basicaly be glued on and that's it.

Any link to this how-to page?
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #11 on: August 09, 2017, 04:13:52 PM
Ok, for some reason, when I'm doing a project, I can NEVER await the answers before moving on.

I used a liquid seconds glue.
I applied it to the back of the inlay using a jewelers loupe, tweezers and a toothpick.

Downside: it has to be JUST right on first try :facepalm:
The logo isn't placed 100% to my liking, but then again, it doesn't look to shabby either.
Might need a layer of parket varnish to keep it better in place and smooth after all.
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #12 on: August 09, 2017, 04:15:17 PM
What y'all think?
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #13 on: August 09, 2017, 04:25:22 PM
Love it Nick - looks brilliant! Wooden scales look amazing with the shield on. Great job  :cheers:
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #14 on: August 09, 2017, 04:32:53 PM
Quote from: magentus on August 09, 2017, 04:25:22 PM
Love it Nick - looks brilliant! Wooden scales look amazing with the shield on. Great job  :cheers:
I'm feeling I didn't do to bad for a first scale. :D

Just checked. I've got HQ non slip varnish in the basement, but have no idea how to do it properly...
Brush? Roller? Tape off the rest of the knife? :shrug:

Leave it like this?
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #15 on: August 09, 2017, 04:44:18 PM
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #16 on: August 09, 2017, 04:48:27 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on August 09, 2017, 04:32:53 PM
Quote from: magentus on August 09, 2017, 04:25:22 PM
Love it Nick - looks brilliant! Wooden scales look amazing with the shield on. Great job  :cheers:
I'm feeling I didn't do to bad for a first scale. :D

Just checked. I've got HQ non slip varnish in the basement, but have no idea how to do it properly...
Brush? Roller? Tape off the rest of the knife? :shrug:

Leave it like this?
:shrug: :shrug:

So, tell us...

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Did the varnish turn out ok? What did you use? Did you tape the rest of the knife?...

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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #17 on: August 09, 2017, 04:55:48 PM
Quote from: pfrsantos on August 09, 2017, 04:48:27 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on August 09, 2017, 04:32:53 PM
Quote from: magentus on August 09, 2017, 04:25:22 PM
Love it Nick - looks brilliant! Wooden scales look amazing with the shield on. Great job  :cheers:
I'm feeling I didn't do to bad for a first scale. :D

Just checked. I've got HQ non slip varnish in the basement, but have no idea how to do it properly...
Brush? Roller? Tape off the rest of the knife? :shrug:

Leave it like this?
:shrug: :shrug:

So, tell us...

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Did the varnish turn out ok? What did you use? Did you tape the rest of the knife?...

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You payed attention :D

I checked the can and it states that it should be applied by brush.

I tested paper tape to cover the rest of the knife which will work.

The can also states that the varnish is ready for a second layer after 2 hours and a smooth sanding.
It's dried to full hardness within 24 hours.

If I start now, I can do the second layer at 7pm, but I need to be somewhere by 7h30pm. Tomorrow is a busy day with little to no time for this.
So I'll have to wait untill monday, when my girlfriend is off to work and I can do whatever I want, whenever I want :dd:
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #18 on: August 09, 2017, 04:58:41 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on August 09, 2017, 04:55:48 PM
Quote from: pfrsantos on August 09, 2017, 04:48:27 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on August 09, 2017, 04:32:53 PM
Quote from: magentus on August 09, 2017, 04:25:22 PM
Love it Nick - looks brilliant! Wooden scales look amazing with the shield on. Great job  :cheers:
I'm feeling I didn't do to bad for a first scale. :D

Just checked. I've got HQ non slip varnish in the basement, but have no idea how to do it properly...
Brush? Roller? Tape off the rest of the knife? :shrug:

Leave it like this?
:shrug: :shrug:

So, tell us...

Show content
Did the varnish turn out ok? What did you use? Did you tape the rest of the knife?...

 :whistle:
You payed attention :D

I checked the can and it states that it should be applied by brush.

I tested paper tape to cover the rest of the knife which will work.

The can also states that the varnish is ready for a second layer after 2 hours and a smooth sanding.
It's dried to full hardness within 24 hours.

If I start now, I can do the second layer at 7pm, but I need to be somewhere by 7h30pm. Tomorrow is a busy day with little to no time for this.
So I'll have to wait untill monday, when my girlfriend is off to work and I can do whatever I want, whenever I want :dd:

Please... you won't last until friday, much less monday...

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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #19 on: August 09, 2017, 04:59:18 PM
Quote from: pfrsantos on August 09, 2017, 04:58:41 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on August 09, 2017, 04:55:48 PM
Quote from: pfrsantos on August 09, 2017, 04:48:27 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on August 09, 2017, 04:32:53 PM
Quote from: magentus on August 09, 2017, 04:25:22 PM
Love it Nick - looks brilliant! Wooden scales look amazing with the shield on. Great job  :cheers:
I'm feeling I didn't do to bad for a first scale. :D

Just checked. I've got HQ non slip varnish in the basement, but have no idea how to do it properly...
Brush? Roller? Tape off the rest of the knife? :shrug:

Leave it like this?
:shrug: :shrug:

So, tell us...

Show content
Did the varnish turn out ok? What did you use? Did you tape the rest of the knife?...

 :whistle:
You payed attention :D

I checked the can and it states that it should be applied by brush.

I tested paper tape to cover the rest of the knife which will work.

The can also states that the varnish is ready for a second layer after 2 hours and a smooth sanding.
It's dried to full hardness within 24 hours.

If I start now, I can do the second layer at 7pm, but I need to be somewhere by 7h30pm. Tomorrow is a busy day with little to no time for this.
So I'll have to wait untill monday, when my girlfriend is off to work and I can do whatever I want, whenever I want :dd:

Please... you won't last until friday, much less monday...

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I was thinking that as I was typing :rofl:
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #20 on: August 09, 2017, 05:13:26 PM
Quote from: RF52 on August 09, 2017, 04:44:18 PM
Nice looking SAK you got there

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Thanks! :D
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #21 on: August 09, 2017, 10:50:11 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on August 09, 2017, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: Huntsman on August 09, 2017, 02:33:44 PM
I think Archerwin just uses glue and clamps the scale firmly - with a protector layer etc of course
He has a blog and a guide to do this.
Any link to this how-to page?

http://archerwinsak.blogspot.com.au/2014/09/wood-scales-victorinox-classic-in.html

Or just search on Archerwin glue wood!! :o
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #22 on: August 09, 2017, 11:11:39 PM
Quote from: Huntsman on August 09, 2017, 10:50:11 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on August 09, 2017, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: Huntsman on August 09, 2017, 02:33:44 PM
I think Archerwin just uses glue and clamps the scale firmly - with a protector layer etc of course
He has a blog and a guide to do this.
Any link to this how-to page?

http://archerwinsak.blogspot.com.au/2014/09/wood-scales-victorinox-classic-in.html

Or just search on Archerwin glue wood!! :o
Thanks!

I do have a more embossed effect, but then again, my glue become rock solid in a matter of seconds.
2 component glue attaches really strong but usualy takes a few minutes to harden out completely, which is more usefull in this application.
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #23 on: August 10, 2017, 12:55:20 AM
Those look sweet :dd: Great job on that Mecha :tu: :like:
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #24 on: August 10, 2017, 01:24:09 AM
Nice job  :like: :tu:
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Re: Can you remove the cross and shield inlay from a Vic celidor?
Reply #25 on: August 10, 2017, 02:21:14 AM
Those scales look great! 
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