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Difference in key rings:
on: August 22, 2017, 05:45:16 AM
I was admiring my knives and noticed that my 2 campers have different key rings.  Is this typical, maybe one is much older than the other?  Does anyone have any insight on this?




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Re: Difference in key rings:
Reply #1 on: August 22, 2017, 05:47:42 AM
Quote from: Zhenchok on August 22, 2017, 05:45:16 AM
I was admiring my knives and noticed that my 2 campers have different key rings.  Is this typical, maybe one is much older than the other?  Does anyone have any insight on this?

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It's possible I messed up and put a 74mm or Wenger keyring on there  :facepalm:
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Re: Difference in key rings:
Reply #2 on: August 22, 2017, 05:48:23 AM
they moved the position of the key ring in 91 then changed the attachment in 99
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Re: Difference in key rings:
Reply #3 on: August 22, 2017, 06:29:47 AM
Quote from: El Corkscrew on August 22, 2017, 05:48:23 AM
they moved the position of the key ring in 91 then changed the attachment in 99


Haha,

I had to take them out again and look.  The one that I received from you looks to be correct :) the one I had had a thin ring hole like something a recruit would have.


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Re: Difference in key rings:
Reply #4 on: August 22, 2017, 06:30:56 AM
So is the red one older or newer?


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Re: Difference in key rings:
Reply #5 on: August 22, 2017, 06:41:09 AM
red one is newer between those two
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Re: Difference in key rings:
Reply #6 on: August 22, 2017, 08:18:14 PM
 Thanks, I like the newer design more.


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Re: Difference in key rings:
Reply #7 on: August 23, 2017, 05:31:28 AM
I also noticed that some corkscrews are different. Some have a line going along the spiral and some do not.  Does anyone know what is the history behind that? Thanks


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Re: Difference in key rings:
Reply #8 on: August 23, 2017, 05:35:01 AM
Quote from: Zhenchok on August 23, 2017, 05:31:28 AM
I also noticed that some corkscrews are different. Some have a line going along the spiral and some do not.  Does anyone know what is the history behind that? Thanks


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You'll find the Fluted Corkscrew on the regular Victorinox Line up to '91 then they became regular.

There was no fluted corkscrew on the economy lines starting in the 70's methinks

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Difference in key rings:
Reply #9 on: August 23, 2017, 06:02:46 AM
Thanks so no Fluted line after '91, is the rumor I heard true threat the corkscrew is made for Victorinox by a Japanese company?


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Re: Difference in key rings:
Reply #10 on: August 23, 2017, 07:21:25 AM
I recently found this source, but no discussion about material source. Still, its a very interesting source


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Re: Difference in key rings:
Reply #11 on: August 23, 2017, 10:59:51 AM
Quote from: Zhenchok on August 23, 2017, 06:02:46 AM
Thanks so no Fluted line after '91, is the rumor I heard true threat the corkscrew is made for Victorinox by a Japanese company?


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Re: Difference in key rings:
Reply #12 on: August 23, 2017, 12:17:03 PM
Pretty sure they have sourced some parts...

Corkscrews from France sticks out in El brain.  :think:
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Re: Difference in key rings:
Reply #13 on: August 23, 2017, 12:18:07 PM
And really, who could be better corkscrew experts than the French?  :D
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Re: Difference in key rings:
Reply #14 on: August 23, 2017, 12:28:38 PM
Quote from: El Corkscrew on August 23, 2017, 12:18:07 PM
And really, who could be better corkscrew experts than the French?  :D

Yep they are expert's in that  :salute:
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Re: Difference in key rings:
Reply #15 on: August 23, 2017, 12:57:18 PM
Quote from: El Corkscrew on August 23, 2017, 12:18:07 PM
And really, who could be better corkscrew experts than the French?  :D

The Portuguese!
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Re: Difference in key rings:
Reply #16 on: August 23, 2017, 01:12:46 PM
Quote from: pfrsantos on August 23, 2017, 12:57:18 PM
Quote from: El Corkscrew on August 23, 2017, 12:18:07 PM
And really, who could be better corkscrew experts than the French?  :D

The Portuguese!
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Re: Difference in key rings:
Reply #17 on: August 23, 2017, 03:29:45 PM
Quote from: Zhenchok on August 23, 2017, 06:02:46 AM
Thanks so no Fluted line after '91, is the rumor I heard true threat the corkscrew is made for Victorinox by a Japanese company?


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Their corkscrews were (or are, still? :think:) produced in France; I believe that's the only tool on the actual knife not made in Switzerland, though I do not have any documentation proving the corkscrew is the only exception.

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Re: Difference in key rings:
Reply #18 on: August 23, 2017, 04:51:37 PM
Someone else makes them for Victorinox?


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Re: Difference in key rings:
Reply #19 on: August 23, 2017, 08:37:28 PM
Yes, the only tool that is not made by Victorinox is the corkscrew. According to a Victorinox Customer Service Representative in correspondence, as of 2012, it had been been purchased from a French supplier as a semi-finished part for decades .
(from sakwiki)

Although I as well have heard something about Japan...

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