By the way, no MT I know uses 4-mm bits. Seems strange, since at least PST-sized tools are intended (and commonly used) as light-to-medium-duty instruments. In this torque range small bits are quite capable. And they are so tiny it may be possible to arrange on-board storage.
Quote from: Keyboardinator on August 27, 2017, 07:42:47 PMBy the way, no MT I know uses 4-mm bits. Seems strange, since at least PST-sized tools are intended (and commonly used) as light-to-medium-duty instruments. In this torque range small bits are quite capable. And they are so tiny it may be possible to arrange on-board storage.The Victorinox CyberTool Line uses 4mm bits. For their plier based tools they have opted to have the bit driver as an external tool instead, probably figuring that once you start bringing a bit kit a small driver won't add much bulk or weight and will allow you to hold on to a nut with the pliers while using the driver on the bolt.Their thinking seems sound to me and it suits the way I use my tools.
Quote from: Fortytwo on August 28, 2017, 01:46:08 AMQuote from: Keyboardinator on August 27, 2017, 07:42:47 PMBy the way, no MT I know uses 4-mm bits. Seems strange, since at least PST-sized tools are intended (and commonly used) as light-to-medium-duty instruments. In this torque range small bits are quite capable. And they are so tiny it may be possible to arrange on-board storage.The Victorinox CyberTool Line uses 4mm bits. For their plier based tools they have opted to have the bit driver as an external tool instead, probably figuring that once you start bringing a bit kit a small driver won't add much bulk or weight and will allow you to hold on to a nut with the pliers while using the driver on the bolt.Their thinking seems sound to me and it suits the way I use my tools.This sounds very logical. But still, I am going to explore putting in a 4mm bit holder into the tool. This sounds like a great project!
From what I've heard,CyberTool is great, but it still uses proprietary bits.
I'm really sad that SOG seems to be having quality issues with their plier head solution since that would be a true centred drive similar to the Leatherman tool adapters without having to carry the extra part. Together with a 4" extension it should be able to work just as well as any full length bit driver.
I've been playing with the idea of a thick SAK scale (the other may remain plastic) housing several 4-mm bits. Sorry for the poor picture quality.
Quote from: Keyboardinator on August 28, 2017, 06:16:52 PMFrom what I've heard,CyberTool is great, but it still uses proprietary bits.Not proprietary as such, the Cybertool line uses double sided 4mm bits with ball detent to keep them in place. More or less impossible to find except from Victorinox but a small magnet glued in the bit holder allows for use of standard 4mm bits. Or so I'm told.