Do the Victorinox Scissors dull?

[Zhenchok]

I read somewhere that they are self sharpening, do they really self sharpen or do they eventually need to be resharpened?

[pomsbz]

I read somewhere that they are self sharpening, do they really self sharpen or do they eventually need to be resharpened?

I had understood it was the Wenger scissors which were self sharpening.

[jazzbass]

They most definitely do dull. My wife was using the scissors on my well used Compact last weekend and commented on how dull they were. She switched to her Yeoman and it was like night and day.

[GoatDragon]

I read somewhere that they are self sharpening, do they really self sharpen or do they eventually need to be resharpened?

I had understood it was the Wenger scissors which were self sharpening.

And how does that work exactly? What is this magic that makes the Wenger scissors self sharpen, while no other scissors I have ever seen seem to do this.

[El Corkscrew]

I read somewhere that they are self sharpening, do they really self sharpen or do they eventually need to be resharpened?

I had understood it was the Wenger scissors which were self sharpening.

And how does that work exactly? What is this magic that makes the Wenger scissors self sharpen, while no other scissors I have ever seen seem to do this.

Maybe something to do with the unique lever design and serrations? 

Vic scissors most definitely dull, but you can sharpen them.

[GoatDragon]

I read somewhere that they are self sharpening, do they really self sharpen or do they eventually need to be resharpened?

I had understood it was the Wenger scissors which were self sharpening.

And how does that work exactly? What is this magic that makes the Wenger scissors self sharpen, while no other scissors I have ever seen seem to do this.

Maybe something to do with the unique lever design and serrations? 

Vic scissors most definitely dull, but you can sharpen them.

What is unique about the lever design? They look like they rotate on a rivet just like the Vic scissors to me. And how exactly do serrations self sharpen?

[El Corkscrew]

I read somewhere that they are self sharpening, do they really self sharpen or do they eventually need to be resharpened?

I had understood it was the Wenger scissors which were self sharpening.

And how does that work exactly? What is this magic that makes the Wenger scissors self sharpen, while no other scissors I have ever seen seem to do this.

Maybe something to do with the unique lever design and serrations? 

Vic scissors most definitely dull, but you can sharpen them.

What is unique about the lever design? They look like they rotate on a rivet just like the Vic scissors to me. And how exactly do serrations self sharpen?

just guessing, I really have no idea...

I've never seen scissors designed like that anywhere else...

[pomsbz]

Just guessing but the serrations probably work to remove burrs.

[GoatDragon]

Just guessing but the serrations probably work to remove burrs.

That makes sense. The serrations do somewhat remind me of the grooved texture on a honing steel rod.

... But then wouldn't it be technically more correct to say the Wenger scissors are self honing rather than self sharpening?

[Don Pablo]

Just guessing but the serrations probably work to remove burrs.

That makes sense. The serrations do somewhat remind me of the grooved texture on a honing steel rod.

... But then wouldn't it be technically more correct to say the Wenger scissors are self honing rather than self sharpening?

How many non-knife enthusiasts understand what honing is?
Sharpening is easier to understand, even if its not exactly accurate.

[theonew]

I have never owned a pair of Wenger scissors but I'm quite sure that "self-sharpening" is just marketing nonsense. Possibly more accurate would be "dulls to the point of being functionally useless at a slower rate" but that doesn't really sound all that appealing
A dull serrated knife can still cut, albeit not in an elegant way. So I imagine the same to be true with scissors.

[GoatDragon]

I have never owned a pair of Wenger scissors but I'm quite sure that "self-sharpening" is just marketing nonsense. Possibly more accurate would be "dulls to the point of being functionally useless at a slower rate" but that doesn't really sound all that appealing
A dull serrated knife can still cut, albeit not in an elegant way. So I imagine the same to be true with scissors.

That is highly likely. I remember when I was a kid I encountered a knife set at the Sharper Image store in the mall that claimed they would never go dull. They were just serrated knives. The entire set was serrated, even the chef knife. They were probably a pretty cheap soft steel that would go dull rather quickly too. It always puzzled me how a set of knives could never dull. Kid me thought they must be made out of some sort of super indestructo-steel. Until I got older and realized it was bullsmurf.

[Fortytwo]

I have never owned a pair of Wenger scissors but I'm quite sure that "self-sharpening" is just marketing nonsense. Possibly more accurate would be "dulls to the point of being functionally useless at a slower rate" but that doesn't really sound all that appealing
A dull serrated knife can still cut, albeit not in an elegant way. So I imagine the same to be true with scissors.

I find that the biggest problem with the Wenger scissors is that the result will never be elegant. They seem much less elegant than their Victorinox cousins and will leave nails fraying due to the serrations but hey are also thicker stock and will not get close enough to cut peeling cuticles (something the Vic 58 & 74 mm are great at) and other similar things

[Don Pablo]

I have never owned a pair of Wenger scissors but I'm quite sure that "self-sharpening" is just marketing nonsense. Possibly more accurate would be "dulls to the point of being functionally useless at a slower rate" but that doesn't really sound all that appealing
A dull serrated knife can still cut, albeit not in an elegant way. So I imagine the same to be true with scissors.

I find that the biggest problem with the Wenger scissors is that the result will never be elegant. They seem much less elegant than their Victorinox cousins and will leave nails fraying due to the serrations but hey are also thicker stock and will not get close enough to cut peeling cuticles (something the Vic 58 & 74 mm are great at) and other similar things

Cutting peeling cuticles? 

[Fortytwo]

I have never owned a pair of Wenger scissors but I'm quite sure that "self-sharpening" is just marketing nonsense. Possibly more accurate would be "dulls to the point of being functionally useless at a slower rate" but that doesn't really sound all that appealing
A dull serrated knife can still cut, albeit not in an elegant way. So I imagine the same to be true with scissors.

I find that the biggest problem with the Wenger scissors is that the result will never be elegant. They seem much less elegant than their Victorinox cousins and will leave nails fraying due to the serrations but hey are also thicker stock and will not get close enough to cut peeling cuticles (something the Vic 58 & 74 mm are great at) and other similar things

Cutting peeling cuticles? 

Yeah, when the skin starts peeling a bit at the edges of the nails. I prefer cutting them short (flush) so they wont drag and peel further. Usually puts an instant stop to the peeling without hurting since it's only dead skin I'll be cutting off.

[Don Pablo]

I have never owned a pair of Wenger scissors but I'm quite sure that "self-sharpening" is just marketing nonsense. Possibly more accurate would be "dulls to the point of being functionally useless at a slower rate" but that doesn't really sound all that appealing
A dull serrated knife can still cut, albeit not in an elegant way. So I imagine the same to be true with scissors.

I find that the biggest problem with the Wenger scissors is that the result will never be elegant. They seem much less elegant than their Victorinox cousins and will leave nails fraying due to the serrations but hey are also thicker stock and will not get close enough to cut peeling cuticles (something the Vic 58 & 74 mm are great at) and other similar things

Cutting peeling cuticles? 

Yeah, when the skin starts peeling a bit at the edges of the nails. I prefer cutting them short (flush) so they wont drag and peel further. Usually puts an instant stop to the peeling without hurting since it's only dead skin I'll be cutting off.

I know what you mean now. 

[KandiKlover]

It's not just Wenger, I seen that self-shaepening thing on some online stores for Victorinox SAKs too.

[AimlessWanderer]

Probably the Victorinox Delemont range, which used to be the Wenger models ...

[Tired_Yeti]

Cutting peeling cuticles? 

Yeah, it's not normal. It'd probably be better to find the cause and treat that rather than just repeatedly snipping skin off the top of your fingers. It might be indicative of other health problems.



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[Don Pablo]

Cutting peeling cuticles? 

Yeah, it's not normal. It'd probably be better to find the cause and treat that rather than just repeatedly snipping skin off the top of your fingers. It might be indicative of other health problems.



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See the later post. He apparently means the little bits of dead skin that curl up on your fingers along the sides of the nail, if you know what I mean.

[Fortytwo]

Cutting peeling cuticles? 

Yeah, it's not normal. It'd probably be better to find the cause and treat that rather than just repeatedly snipping skin off the top of your fingers. It might be indicative of other health problems.



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See the later post. He apparently means the little bits of dead skin that curl up on your fingers along the sides of the nail, if you know what I mean.

Yeah, I did a quick google search for "skin near nails peeling" to find a good term for it and the first couple of post suggested it had to do with broken cuticles. Actually looking at the pictures says it doesn't.

[Fortytwo]

Back on the topic, every kind of cutting tool blunts. Many (most?) can be resharpened in one way or another. I would guess that the Wenger scissors would be a nightmare to resharpen if they did go blunt.

[GoatDragon]

What about the files on my various SAKs? Will they go dull with extended use (assuming I never use them on anything super hard and just file soft things like my nails and maybe plastic or wood.) Because files are impossible to sharpen.

[Fortytwo]

What about the files on my various SAKs? Will they go dull with extended use (assuming I never use them on anything super hard and just file soft things like my nails and maybe plastic or wood.) Because files are impossible to sharpen.

Files do deteriorate yes, but with the use you describe it should be negligible. They are built to use so it makes sense to use them and to be fair, assuming reasonable use, I would probably have considered the tool to have paid itself off long before the file gives out.

[theonew]

I never expected this thread to become a nail care seminar
 

[Tired_Yeti]

Cutting peeling cuticles? 

Yeah, it's not normal. It'd probably be better to find the cause and treat that rather than just repeatedly snipping skin off the top of your fingers. It might be indicative of other health problems.



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See the later post. He apparently means the little bits of dead skin that curl up on your fingers along the sides of the nail, if you know what I mean.

Yeah, I know what he meant. Using harsh soap, detergents, or other chemicals can cause it. There can be dietary causes too, but usually it's from harsh detergents/chemicals.


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[Tired_Yeti]

I never expected this thread to become a nail care seminar
 

LOL! Nope!
I do medical. I don't do hair, makeup, or nails. Ha ha!


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[Don Pablo]

Cutting peeling cuticles? 

Yeah, it's not normal. It'd probably be better to find the cause and treat that rather than just repeatedly snipping skin off the top of your fingers. It might be indicative of other health problems.



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See the later post. He apparently means the little bits of dead skin that curl up on your fingers along the sides of the nail, if you know what I mean.

Yeah, I know what he meant. Using harsh soap, detergents, or other chemicals can cause it. There can be dietary causes too, but usually it's from harsh detergents/chemicals.


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Maybe dry skin too? 

[Fortytwo]

Cutting peeling cuticles? 

Yeah, it's not normal. It'd probably be better to find the cause and treat that rather than just repeatedly snipping skin off the top of your fingers. It might be indicative of other health problems.



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See the later post. He apparently means the little bits of dead skin that curl up on your fingers along the sides of the nail, if you know what I mean.

Yeah, I know what he meant. Using harsh soap, detergents, or other chemicals can cause it. There can be dietary causes too, but usually it's from harsh detergents/chemicals.


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Maybe dry skin too? 

That's my guess, I feel like it's more common in winter and I believe it's due to the dry air.

[Don Pablo]

Cutting peeling cuticles? 

Yeah, it's not normal. It'd probably be better to find the cause and treat that rather than just repeatedly snipping skin off the top of your fingers. It might be indicative of other health problems.



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See the later post. He apparently means the little bits of dead skin that curl up on your fingers along the sides of the nail, if you know what I mean.

Yeah, I know what he meant. Using harsh soap, detergents, or other chemicals can cause it. There can be dietary causes too, but usually it's from harsh detergents/chemicals.


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Maybe dry skin too? 

That's my guess, I feel like it's more common in winter and I believe it's due to the dry air.

From the heating apparatus?