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Firefly Ferro rod.

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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #180 on: October 30, 2017, 01:03:53 AM
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #181 on: October 30, 2017, 05:38:15 AM
Hi Eric.
Sorry to have to pull your links, but they are in violation of our forum policies on advertising.
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 :oops: Sorry guys, didn't mean to break the rules.  Just trying to provide some helpful answers to questions and concerns people had, not trying to advertise as word about it was already on here.  Thanks for letting me know, it won't happen again. 


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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #182 on: October 30, 2017, 09:22:11 AM
I dunno, cutting the footage and gifs to show the firesteel lighting first time every time, it may not be an attempt to deceive but it does deceive. It is, to my mind, false advertising, exciting perhaps but still false. By your own admission your product cannot achieve what you have shown it to achieve.

Just my uneducated opinion of course. I have no idea what the norms within the industry are, etc. If the others feel that I am incorrect then I'll shut up. :)


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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #183 on: October 30, 2017, 10:33:44 AM
 :shrug: It's an advert.  ALWAYS take whatever the manufacturer claims with a pinch of salt.


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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #184 on: December 10, 2017, 10:54:39 PM
So is this item being sent out soon or what?!
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Reply #185 on: December 11, 2017, 09:52:18 AM
Well, soon... the latest word is end of January.
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Reply #186 on: December 11, 2017, 04:43:48 PM
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #187 on: December 29, 2017, 03:11:20 AM
If it actually worked,  where could store the removed toothpic, not your Edc draw,  :whistle:  on the SAk?? Depends on the tool layers?
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Reply #188 on: December 29, 2017, 03:32:57 AM
I cut the end of a spare, it seems to fit under the corkscrew..... meh, we'll see...
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #189 on: December 29, 2017, 04:45:32 PM
The debate of Bic vs. ferro rod makes me wonder, does anyone know how the size of this firefly rod compares to the ferro rod that's actually in a Bic lighter?


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Reply #190 on: January 07, 2018, 06:45:39 AM
So... if I got a replacement scale with a spot for the pen, I could have a toothpick and Firefly?
...dont use the toithpick much, woun't need to start fires much either!  :ahhh
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Reply #191 on: January 14, 2018, 12:56:22 AM
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #192 on: January 14, 2018, 10:55:02 PM
The debate of Bic vs. ferro rod makes me wonder, does anyone know how the size of this firefly rod compares to the ferro rod that's actually in a Bic lighter?


  Erm......there is no ferro rod in a bic lighter...


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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #193 on: January 15, 2018, 02:10:22 AM
  Erm......there is no ferro rod in a bic lighter...

What do you think the sparker uses?

Bics and most welding torch lighters use very small and hard ferro rods.
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #194 on: January 15, 2018, 03:22:29 AM
The debate of Bic vs. ferro rod makes me wonder, does anyone know how the size of this firefly rod compares to the ferro rod that's actually in a Bic lighter?


  Erm......there is no ferro rod in a bic lighter...
I gave heard of keeping empty Bics, top part?
to use as a spark for tinder. ...
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #195 on: January 15, 2018, 04:17:52 AM
The debate of Bic vs. ferro rod makes me wonder, does anyone know how the size of this firefly rod compares to the ferro rod that's actually in a Bic lighter?


  Erm......there is no ferro rod in a bic lighter...

As others have pointed out, yes, there is a little ferro rod in the bic striker mechanism.

Check out this thread... 'Lynn tests the 'Micro Fire Starting Kit' lighter hack".
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,74717.0.html

And to answer the original question, the rod in a brand new lighter is, I'd guess, about a quarter inch (6mm).

The Firefly is MUCH bigger. But the lighter is essentially perfectly optimized for efficient spark throwing. It will give you like 12,000 strikes. HOWEVER, those are pretty tiny spark showers, and require REALLY good tinder to catch. I think the Firefly would do much better for catching things other than cotton balls and tinderquiks.

EDIT: in the video linked in the thread I mentioned above, the notes in the video say a brand new rod in a lighter is 7.5mm long. I don't l know if that's 100% accurate, but it doesn't sound far off.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2018, 04:27:07 AM by Lynn LeFey »


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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #196 on: January 15, 2018, 06:13:42 AM
I'm comming a little late on the thread, but I'll throw my 2c.
I think it's a nice item to have. If I need to make fire and I have to choose between the Firefly and nothing, I would stick with the Firefly. Like others pointed, a toothpick can easily be crafted in seconds, whilist fire can be a pain in the @$$ w/o propper tools. Even if you get very few strikes before it breaks, I think that it's still more useful than the toothpick.

But if you still need the toothpick and want the Firefly and the tweezers, how about some plus scales?  :D


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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #197 on: January 17, 2018, 04:32:33 PM
Perhaps there is an alternative.

The Victorinox Traveller has a back scale with three slots: toothpick, tweezer and pen.


Traveller rear scale

On some modern translucent scales rear scales the third-slot is visible. Some cellidor scales also have the third slot, but those are not visible when assembled.

So, if you have a set of those scales you can file out the opening for the third slot and you have yourself a pair of scales with room for an extra tool.
If you replace the normal tweezers with the Firefly you can put a new (smaller) tweezer in the new third back slot.

I'll see if I have a pair of scales with the 3rd slot when I'm back home and make a photo.

The small tweezers are available for the Traveller models.


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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #198 on: January 18, 2018, 12:55:12 AM
Perhaps there is an alternative.

The Victorinox Traveller has a back scale with three slots: toothpick, tweezer and pen.

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Traveller rear scale

On some modern translucent scales rear scales the third-slot is visible. Some cellidor scales also have the third slot, but those are not visible when assembled.

So, if you have a set of those scales you can file out the opening for the third slot and you have yourself a pair of scales with room for an extra tool.
If you replace the normal tweezers with the Firefly you can put a new (smaller) tweezer in the new third back slot.

I'll see if I have a pair of scales with the 3rd slot when I'm back home and make a photo.

The small tweezers are available for the Traveller models.

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Victorinox Traveller with all scale tools
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #199 on: January 27, 2018, 05:43:28 PM
Perhaps there is an alternative.

The Victorinox Traveller has a back scale with three slots: toothpick, tweezer and pen.

(Image removed from quote.)
Traveller rear scale

On some modern translucent scales rear scales the third-slot is visible. Some cellidor scales also have the third slot, but those are not visible when assembled.

So, if you have a set of those scales you can file out the opening for the third slot and you have yourself a pair of scales with room for an extra tool.
If you replace the normal tweezers with the Firefly you can put a new (smaller) tweezer in the new third back slot.

I'll see if I have a pair of scales with the 3rd slot when I'm back home and make a photo.

The small tweezers are available for the Traveller models.

(Image removed from quote.)
Victorinox Traveller with all scale tools
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #200 on: January 27, 2018, 05:45:59 PM
When do these ship? End of January was last I heard......


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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #201 on: January 27, 2018, 05:59:41 PM
They had some setbacks with the manufacturing and delivery dates have been pushed back.


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Reply #202 on: January 27, 2018, 06:00:53 PM
Ahhhh...well...in due time....we hope.   :D


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Reply #203 on: January 27, 2018, 08:10:46 PM
We'll see.
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Reply #204 on: January 31, 2018, 03:46:51 AM
zzzzz Waiting zzzzźz :think:
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Reply #205 on: February 04, 2018, 03:08:08 AM
Yawnnn... :whistle: any real info...
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Reply #206 on: February 04, 2018, 05:02:38 AM


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Reply #207 on: February 04, 2018, 02:29:30 PM
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Reply #208 on: February 04, 2018, 03:01:59 PM
Do I detect the faint aroma of a scam?
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #209 on: February 04, 2018, 03:12:50 PM
I dont think so. Might be something that wafted over from the saks and coffee thread.



 

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