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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #270 on: April 18, 2018, 02:15:30 AM
Quote from: Aloha007 on April 18, 2018, 01:35:52 AM
Ah yes pen slot.
l have plans for the pen slot...

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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #271 on: April 18, 2018, 02:24:04 AM
Quote from: jalind on April 18, 2018, 02:04:06 AM
Pen slot in "Plus" scales is slightly curved, following the curvature of the scales edge. This flexes the pen slightly for interference fit and retention. The SwissCard does the same thing with its pen slot that's nearly identical in curvature (if you have one, hold it up to a bright light). A ferro rod is brittle and has no appreciable flex. I don't believe the Plus scales pen slot would work with one because of that curvature.

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Correct John, the TP would not bend but is also too wide. Meh..... :cheers:
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #272 on: April 19, 2018, 10:22:09 PM
... and you SAKsperts can please advise me,  which blades besides the saw blade back have the edge to make sparks?
Not having much luck with my collection....  :salute:
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #273 on: April 20, 2018, 12:41:28 AM
Small blade  :whistle:.   Yeah yeah, this may not be popular but seeing how this ferro rod would be last ditch.....

Can opener may work as well.  Certainly would ease the excitement over using the small blade  ;).  The backside awl should also work.  Pretty much whatever has a sharp edge in my experience works well.  I love the saw blades spine tho.  Works really really well.   
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #274 on: April 20, 2018, 03:13:11 AM
Quote from: Aloha007 on April 20, 2018, 12:41:28 AM
Small blade  :whistle:.   Yeah yeah, this may not be popular but seeing how this ferro rod would be last ditch.....

Can opener may work as well.  Certainly would ease the excitement over using the small blade  ;).  The backside awl should also work.  Pretty much whatever has a sharp edge in my experience works well.  I love the saw blades spine tho.  Works really really well.   
Ah ha!  Awl backside, let's try...........
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #275 on: April 20, 2018, 05:59:09 AM
Quote from: Aloha007 on April 20, 2018, 12:41:28 AM
Small blade  :whistle:.   Yeah yeah, this may not be popular but seeing how this ferro rod would be last ditch.....

Can opener may work as well.  Certainly would ease the excitement over using the small blade  ;).  The backside awl should also work.  Pretty much whatever has a sharp edge in my experience works well.  I love the saw blades spine tho.  Works really really well.   

What about the scissors? They have an edge and don't do anything the small blade can't do. Save your more useful small blade/awl edges and sacrifice the redundant edge to the cause?

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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #276 on: April 20, 2018, 06:02:01 AM
The awl works well and it spares your blade.
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #277 on: April 20, 2018, 09:00:55 PM
Also if you are outdoors a small sharp rock works fine.  Or broken glass.  On standard fero rods anyhow I assume same for these.  On a test sakbi made with fero rod I squared off the top of the can opener tool so it had a crisp corner and that scraped well.
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #278 on: April 20, 2018, 09:19:41 PM
Thanks for the hints!   :cheers:
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #279 on: April 20, 2018, 10:36:43 PM
I've tried:

Saw
Executive nail file
Can opener
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Awl seem good. Saw is easiest to use.
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #280 on: April 20, 2018, 10:39:06 PM
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I've tried:

Saw
Executive nail file
Can opener
Awl

Awl seem good. Saw is easiest to use.
Yes, thanks Nix, best for my Huntsman outdoors.
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #281 on: April 20, 2018, 10:59:40 PM
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #282 on: April 21, 2018, 12:39:15 AM
Quote from: AmberDragon on April 20, 2018, 05:59:09 AM
Quote from: Aloha007 on April 20, 2018, 12:41:28 AM
Small blade  :whistle:.   Yeah yeah, this may not be popular but seeing how this ferro rod would be last ditch.....

Can opener may work as well.  Certainly would ease the excitement over using the small blade  ;).  The backside awl should also work.  Pretty much whatever has a sharp edge in my experience works well.  I love the saw blades spine tho.  Works really really well.   

What about the scissors? They have an edge and don't do anything the small blade can't do. Save your more useful small blade/awl edges and sacrifice the redundant edge to the cause?

For sure.  I'd use anything that worked in an emergency.   :salute:
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #283 on: April 28, 2018, 07:13:06 PM
This just in, from my state of the art testing lab,    (downstairs bathroom):
On the can opener tool, the little notch by (under) the small screwdriver works too!

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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #284 on: April 30, 2018, 02:24:12 AM
Quote from: TonySal on April 28, 2018, 07:13:06 PM
This just in, from my state of the art testing lab,    (downstairs bathroom):
On the can opener tool, the little notch by (under) the small screwdriver works too!
Wow, my bad, suck as a scientist!  The wire bender/stripper notch seems to throw sparks too!   :salute:
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #285 on: May 26, 2018, 07:40:33 PM
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #286 on: May 26, 2018, 07:44:52 PM
Just popping my head in this thread to ask a question, haven't read it all so apologies if it has been asked or answered before!

Do we have any sense of how many uses one might expect out of this ferro rod? It seems very thin. Also, does it seem at all brittle and liable to snap in half after it has been used a bit and thinned out?
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #287 on: May 26, 2018, 08:11:26 PM
Quote from: TonySal on April 19, 2018, 10:22:09 PM
... and you SAKsperts can please advise me,  which blades besides the saw blade back have the edge to make sparks?
Not having much luck with my collection....  :salute:

I put a 90 degree edge on my cap lifter and it works great!

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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #288 on: May 27, 2018, 12:08:12 AM
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Just popping my head in this thread to ask a question, haven't read it all so apologies if it has been asked or answered before!

Do we have any sense of how many uses one might expect out of this ferro rod? It seems very thin. Also, does it seem at all brittle and liable to snap in half after it has been used a bit and thinned out?

I dont have an answer since I don't own one but, I can imagine in an emergency, once would be very welcomed.  I'd think one could get a few( 3 or so ) uses however this is more emergency type thing so again once might be its role.  I'd carry a pill fob with a tinderquick or something very similar to make catching a spark a lot easier.  Thats my 2c worth.   
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #289 on: May 27, 2018, 02:37:17 AM
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Just popping my head in this thread to ask a question, haven't read it all so apologies if it has been asked or answered before!

Do we have any sense of how many uses one might expect out of this ferro rod? It seems very thin. Also, does it seem at all brittle and liable to snap in half after it has been used a bit and thinned out?

I dont have an answer since I don't own one but, I can imagine in an emergency, once would be very welcomed.  I'd think one could get a few( 3 or so ) uses however this is more emergency type thing so again once might be its role.  I'd carry a pill fob with a tinderquick or something very similar to make catching a spark a lot easier.  Thats my 2c worth.   
It comes with a little strand of tinder - cute.
Yes, they say, hold it against a forefinger to strike it. Not many SAK edges are 90 degree enough IMHO, which is a bit disingenuous if you don't have the SAK they demonstrated.
It does work, as a cool addition/ gimic, I just dont think its for survival.
Ill give it a try this weekend and see whats up. So far B-
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #290 on: May 27, 2018, 06:22:08 AM
The saw blade spine on SAKs is brilliant for striking a ferro rod. 
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Reply #291 on: May 27, 2018, 12:31:09 PM
The awl is exceptional on a ferro rod from my experience.
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #292 on: May 27, 2018, 05:22:40 PM
The ones I use in my drawer Saks are 58 cents.  I bet if you glued a head on one you could fit it in the pen slot.  Very similar diameter.

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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #293 on: May 27, 2018, 07:00:22 PM
Quote from: Aloha007 on May 27, 2018, 06:22:08 AM
The saw blade spine on SAKs is brilliant for striking a ferro rod.
Yes, that seems to be the best.
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #294 on: May 30, 2018, 08:21:34 AM
Just got mine... they fit well in the SAKs at least.

Not so in the extra scales I added to the ST300VX though - the tool slots are too narrow, seems the Fireflies are wider than the T&T by quite a margin, and I used the T&T as templates for the design of the scales. Will have to redesign them (again  ::) *sigh*)...
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #295 on: May 30, 2018, 03:29:03 PM
Quote from: Dutch_Tooler on May 30, 2018, 08:21:34 AM
Just got mine... they fit well in the SAKs at least.

Not so in the extra scales I added to the ST300VX though - the tool slots are too narrow, seems the Fireflies are wider than the T&T by quite a margin, and I used the T&T as templates for the design of the scales. Will have to redesign them (again  ::) *sigh*)...
I know, was planning on using the Plus scale too....
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #296 on: May 30, 2018, 11:07:48 PM
So, the tortoisegear website is still saying pre-orders? Are you guys kickstarter beneficiaries? Or are orders being fulfilled?

I use the toothpick more than the tweezers, so I too would rather have it fill the tweezer hole :/

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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #297 on: May 30, 2018, 11:52:15 PM
Quote from: ChopperCharles on May 30, 2018, 11:07:48 PM
So, the tortoisegear website is still saying pre-orders? Are you guys kickstarter beneficiaries? Or are orders being fulfilled?

I use the toothpick more than the tweezers, so I too would rather have it fill the tweezer hole :/

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Charles,  right now I dont know WTF
It does work, good??
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #298 on: May 31, 2018, 03:17:49 AM
I was a Kickstarter backer, so don't know what the deal is with regular orders. Given the delays, it seems likely they're deep into back orders now.
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Re: Firefly Ferro rod.
Reply #299 on: May 31, 2018, 06:41:44 AM
Quote from: ChopperCharles on May 30, 2018, 11:07:48 PM
Are you guys kickstarter beneficiaries? ....

I use the toothpick more than the tweezers, so I too would rather have it fill the tweezer hole :/

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Yes, and I agree that some more flexibility might be hoped for...
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