Firefly Ferro rod.

[TonySal]

Are you guys kickstarter beneficiaries? ....

I use the toothpick more than the tweezers, so I too would rather have it fill the tweezer hole :/

Charles.

Yes, and I agree that some more flexibility might be hoped for...

Yes, I was and as Duck says, must be backorders- went over by months!

[TonySal]

Must be the scales, falls right out of two of mine.
Will use a piece of clear tape, fire would be for emergency only anyway..... 

[TonySal]

... and also,  not much luck with anything but the SAK saw back ...
Could be me......

[TonySal]

Must be the scales, falls right out of two of mine.
Will use a piece of clear tape, fire would be for emergency only anyway..... 

Uh... oops, holding SAK up to the light, I could see the scale was not snapped all the way. So I fixed and the FF is in ok- still not the best item, but I want to be fair....my fault on this one...

[TonySal]

...and I take back the previous apology... picked up Huntsman and Tinker, fell right out, brand new!  Temp and humidity changes? Lowering to C- real fast.
Tests continue...
Comments guys?   

[Aloha]

... and also,  not much luck with anything but the SAK saw back ...
Could be me......

Given the idea of the FF, I think it would be best suited to carry in a SAK with saw.  While I'm not saying its the best idea the small blade could work too.  If in an emergency I'd have no problem striking a ferro rod with my knifes edge. 

[Aloha]

...and I take back the previous apology... picked up Huntsman and Tinker, fell right out, brand new!  Temp and humidity changes? Lowering to C- real fast.
Tests continue...
Comments guys?   

While the temperature here in SoCal is relatively stable we do get change.  I've not had any issue with any scale tools on my SAKs.  Does the FF easily fit or is there some resistance when putting into the space.  I wonder if a bit more resistance would have been better?  For example, on my Swisschamp, the pen has some resistance both withdrawing and inserting, same on my CT29.  Might be some sort of slight bend in the pen but its a positive feel and never an issue of the pen coming out. 

[Syph007]

...and I take back the previous apology... picked up Huntsman and Tinker, fell right out, brand new!  Temp and humidity changes? Lowering to C- real fast.
Tests continue...
Comments guys?   

While the temperature here in SoCal is relatively stable we do get change.  I've not had any issue with any scale tools on my SAKs.  Does the FF easily fit or is there some resistance when putting into the space.  I wonder if a bit more resistance would have been better?  For example, on my Swisschamp, the pen has some resistance both withdrawing and inserting, same on my CT29.  Might be some sort of slight bend in the pen but its a positive feel and never an issue of the pen coming out.

You are correct about how the pen retains.  Its not the pen that is bent though its the channel.  If you look down the pen slot on a plus back scale when removed you can see its not straight.

SO..

Pen - retained by bent channel in scale
Tweezer - retained by spring opening force of tweezer
Toothpick - retained by little notch that is part of the toothpick that engages in the plastic slot

This is why from the beginning I said it wasn't a good method for retention to just rely on friction.  Told the maker that too, noone cared.  I still recommend just getting a firesteel meant for carry on a keyring and put that on a sak keyring.  More practical and wont be lost.  There are tons of options for that.

[TonySal]

Thanks  don't think it was really meant for a SHTF situation, novelty idea...I think Vic would have come up with something if they thought it viable option.

[TonySal]

...and thanks Syph and Aloha for responding to the new guy.
 

[Aloha]

Thanks Syph.  I'll have to look at my plus scales more closely. 

[Aloha]

Thanks  don't think it was really meant for a SHTF situation, novelty idea...I think Vic would have come up with something if they thought it viable option.

Can you find some method for better or more secure retention?  Its still a neat idea but you certainly don't want it to fall out. 

[TonySal]

Thanks  don't think it was really meant for a SHTF situation, novelty idea...I think Vic would have come up with something if they thought it viable option.

Can you find some method for better or more secure retention?  Its still a neat idea but you certainly don't want it to fall out.

I suppose you could put a tiny piece of clear tape over it...

[this_is_nascar]

I ordered a variety pack of these and have been disappointed.  I'm not having much luck using these in any if my SAKS.

They either won't go in at all it will slide out if they do go in.


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[TonySal]

I ordered a variety pack of these and have been disappointed.  I'm not having much luck using these in any if my SAKS.

They either won't go in at all it will slide out if they do go in.


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... and only decent striker seems to be the SAK saw...   

[TonySal]

Got one to stay on my Huntsman plus scales by putting the scale tools in the wrong slots,  can't tell...unless you look closely.

[Aloha]

Thats a simple work around.  Hope it stays put.  I sure hope fire fly is listening to the feed back.  I still thing the idea is neat. 

[TonySal]

I dunno A007, you're too nice, all these issues... think we should get on the net and swat this Firefly?

[Aloha]

I dunno A007, you're too nice, all these issues... think we should get on the net and swat this Firefly?

 

I hoped they would have tested and tested on a lot of SAKs.  New and used.  Come on fire fly people are you listening?   

[Dutch_Tooler]

I have one in the Swisschamp which hasn't fallen out yet. And I'd even taken that scale off for opening the slot for the short tweezers and put it back on. The slot for the long tweezers on the other scale is now occupied by the toothpick after a minor filing off of its head.

[this_is_nascar]

I was able to get one into my Executive.  I'd imagine that as you use it, it will get loose fitting in the cavity.


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[TonySal]

After all the mods and work arounds, does it make a damn fire like in their video?!?
If not.... SWAT !!

 

[Aloha]

I've grown very fond of tinder quick or wet fire.  Easy enough to carry and well worth the time to find a way to carry them.  One spark should be enough in an emergency even from this firefly.  I bought some cheapo ones and they worked well enough.  I also have some wicked storm matches.  Good gosh they are hard to put out. 

[TonySal]

I've grown very fond of tinder quick or wet fire.  Easy enough to carry and well worth the time to find a way to carry them.  One spark should be enough in an emergency even from this firefly.  I bought some cheapo ones and they worked well enough.  I also have some wicked storm matches.  Good gosh they are hard to put out.

...007, are you actually in Hawaii. If be real careful during storms.

[Aloha]

I've grown very fond of tinder quick or wet fire.  Easy enough to carry and well worth the time to find a way to carry them.  One spark should be enough in an emergency even from this firefly.  I bought some cheapo ones and they worked well enough.  I also have some wicked storm matches.  Good gosh they are hard to put out.

...007, are you actually in Hawaii. If be real careful during storms.

I'm in California, thank you tho.      

[TonySal]

Going back to the pen in my Huntsman plus scales.
Not putting things in backwatds to prevent the FF from falling out or tape to hold it in, not suitable for real emergencies anyway imho.
Swat the FF

[this_is_nascar]

Has anyone actually tried this?  I've not as yet.


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[Aloha]

Might be a case of really neat idea in theory but in a practical application not so much.  On a side note, these make more sense to me  .  Or something similar. 

 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PSGOH3C/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B00PSGOH3C

[TonySal]

I got spark but only from the Huntsman saw back 90 edge. Only tried tissue paper, didnt work but not the best tinder. Something up with their video or correct tinder was used.

Yes I've seen the toggles recommended by outdoor types

[Aloha]

Attach the toggle to any outdoor gear and you are good to go.  Heres what I like.  Its a clone of the Nanostiker.  I added a piece of "tinder quick" type cotton.  Its super flammable with just a spark.  I also keep jute in a small hank handy.  The clone nano striker is small enough IMO to keep on a keychain.  Its also not threatening looking.  No-one would know what it was.