We call Germans mutes (as in those who can not speak / are mute (nemci)) and it is possible we basically call ourselves speakers, as on one of the possible etymologies of slav- is to speak.
Quote from: lister on October 04, 2017, 03:51:55 PMWe call Germans mutes (as in those who can not speak / are mute (nemci)) and it is possible we basically call ourselves speakers, as on one of the possible etymologies of slav- is to speak. I've read that before and thought it might be somewhat relevant to the Greek (and Egyptian) way of conceiving people who speak a different language as barbarians (bar-bar designating incomprehensible, inarticulate speech). I also wonder what the relation between nemci and inimicus might be
Firiki, don't scratch old wounds.
Quote from: firiki on October 04, 2017, 04:05:27 PMQuote from: lister on October 04, 2017, 03:51:55 PMWe call Germans mutes (as in those who can not speak / are mute (nemci)) and it is possible we basically call ourselves speakers, as on one of the possible etymologies of slav- is to speak. I've read that before and thought it might be somewhat relevant to the Greek (and Egyptian) way of conceiving people who speak a different language as barbarians (bar-bar designating incomprehensible, inarticulate speech). I also wonder what the relation between nemci and inimicus might be I would say those two are false friends, they sound similar but don't have anything in common.There is a similar coincidence involving the English F word and Slovenian F word. Strikingly similar meaning, almost the same spelling, so much so most Slovenians think that we got it from English. But in fact it stems form a word meaning to blow. The word completely lost its original meaning, but now means to have sex, to beat someone up or as an adjective to be stupid. Also, I completely get why our forfathers called Germans mute. I find German language fiendishly difficult to learn. Despite numerous attempts at it the damn thing won't stay in my brains. On the other hand I had much better luck with English. I can make myself understood well enough in one and can't even order a beer in the other in 2 out of 3 attempts. But I will get it some day, you'll see...
You are discussing which Germanic language to learn first... in English? Which is a Germanic language. (It's the weirdo in the group, but still...)
I'd need an audiobook in wich one each sentance would be repeated twice, once in English and then in German. Something like the hitchikers guide to the galaxy...
Quote from: Steinar on October 04, 2017, 06:00:28 PMYou are discussing which Germanic language to learn first... in English? Which is a Germanic language. (It's the weirdo in the group, but still...)just like me still looking for good sources on Norwegian.
I would prefer audiobooks. I've been listening to those since I was 18 and by now I accumulated well over a year of listening (yes, that means it would take me mor than a year if I were to listen 24/7). So it would be a natural progression for me to use the same medium to transition to also at least understanding german.
Sarajevo, BosniaNeretva River, BosniaDubrovnic at DuskA Croatian 'beach'
Wait you survived Dubrovnik and thought Plitvice was overcrowded? Oh and Croatia has 2 kinds of beaches for the most part - gravel and rocky. Doesn't even matter if they are "official" beaches or wild ones. And funny enough most people don't like sand beaches here.Personally, I prefer the rock beaches. Less crowded, better shade, kids actually learn how to swim and they are generally a lot cleaner. Sure some people despise them because they aren't great for 90% nude selfies, but that is another excellent point - less chance you'll want to kill some random dbag.
Perhaps I'll come to Croatia next summer. With my daughter and wife. It's my daughter's idea.I have only been to Constantinople, Skopje and Sarajevo, regarding the Balkans outside my country. I would like to see Beograd, Sophia and Ljubljiana. Montenegro also. But we are going to some Croatian resort in the Adriatic perhaps.
Nice pics!
Just a word of warning - Dubrovnik is extremely expensive. It is beautiful, historic and really something worth seeing, but it is often overcrowded and the prices are ungodly.
Quote from: styx on October 05, 2017, 10:23:00 PMJust a word of warning - Dubrovnik is extremely expensive. It is beautiful, historic and really something worth seeing, but it is often overcrowded and the prices are ungodly.So you would be Balkan at paying those prices?