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ca Offline b_martin

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Well this happened yesterday
on: October 09, 2017, 04:28:50 AM
« Last Edit: October 09, 2017, 04:31:00 AM by b_martin »


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #2 on: October 09, 2017, 04:40:57 AM
Pic from the above link ....




 :oops:

How did you manage that?


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us Offline Glockfan

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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #3 on: October 09, 2017, 06:06:29 AM
That's a horrifying image! Off to LM she goes! :facepalm:


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #4 on: October 09, 2017, 06:27:23 AM
Yup. Personally, having just bought two of those, one being a gift, I'm curious to know just whose "oops" that is.


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #5 on: October 09, 2017, 07:34:21 AM
Pic from the above link ....

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Right where you said they break...


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #6 on: October 09, 2017, 10:15:55 AM
https://imgur.com/gallery/DZNei


 :oops:

No damage to fingers or objects held, I hope b-martin?  :o

One would have thought the location of the threaded hole for the wire cutter was the weak point on the plier, but apparently that is thick enough to compensate.

Come to think of it, this is starting to make me doubt whether I should build a ReWave... :think:
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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #7 on: October 09, 2017, 01:00:36 PM
Oh man :facepalm: That is bad :-\ What were you doing when that happened :think: sometimes it is a bad cast and the person usually isn't doing something overly tough for the tool :ahhh


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #8 on: October 09, 2017, 01:54:00 PM
 :facepalm:
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ca Offline b_martin

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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #9 on: October 09, 2017, 04:39:05 PM
Yup. Personally, having just bought two of those, one being a gift, I'm curious to know just whose "oops" that is.

Well this is the second rebar I've had that has had plier issues so...


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #10 on: October 09, 2017, 05:02:51 PM
Usually this means that the jaw had a casting flaw.  :ahhh

Bad luck!  :oops:
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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #11 on: October 09, 2017, 05:10:27 PM
Oh man :facepalm: That is bad :-\ What were you doing when that happened :think: sometimes it is a bad cast and the person usually isn't doing something overly tough for the tool :ahhh

I had it gripped on a piece of rebar that was stuck in the ground to give me more leverage to twist it out.


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #12 on: October 09, 2017, 05:35:02 PM
Cast pliers certainly have limits and bad casting even less.  Such a bummer.
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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #13 on: October 09, 2017, 05:36:19 PM
Pic from the above link ....

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Right where you said they break...

Yup. Significant changes in section is usually the fail points on components.

Oh man :facepalm: That is bad :-\ What were you doing when that happened :think: sometimes it is a bad cast and the person usually isn't doing something overly tough for the tool :ahhh

I had it gripped on a piece of rebar that was stuck in the ground to give me more leverage to twist it out.

Casting + Torsion =  :oops:

Twisting is usually the description of how they were being used when this pics appear. The consumer is not to know this though, so manufacturers should either specifically say "don't do it", or design/manufacture the damn things so you can.


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #14 on: October 09, 2017, 07:11:35 PM

I had it gripped on a piece of rebar that was stuck in the ground to give me more leverage to twist it out.
Yep, that would cause a failure!
I think even a Surge or SuperTool would have suffered the same fate. 

Good thing LM will replace without a question. 

Yet, I must say it, wrong tool for the job. 
A Vice grip may have even snapped if twisted. 

Keep us posted as you work through warranty. All the best. 
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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #15 on: October 09, 2017, 07:18:25 PM
Pic from the above link ....

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Right where you said they break...

Yup. Significant changes in section is usually the fail points on components.

Oh man :facepalm: That is bad :-\ What were you doing when that happened :think: sometimes it is a bad cast and the person usually isn't doing something overly tough for the tool :ahhh

I had it gripped on a piece of rebar that was stuck in the ground to give me more leverage to twist it out.

Casting + Torsion =  :oops:

Twisting is usually the description of how they were being used when this pics appear. The consumer is not to know this though, so manufacturers should either specifically say "don't do it", or design/manufacture the damn things so you can.

Yep twisted cast pliers = snapped pliers  :-\ I noticed years ago that pretty much all MT pliers flex to much and will weaken the structure  :-\


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #16 on: October 09, 2017, 09:55:45 PM
Oh man :facepalm: That is bad :-\ What were you doing when that happened :think: sometimes it is a bad cast and the person usually isn't doing something overly tough for the tool :ahhh

I had it gripped on a piece of rebar that was stuck in the ground to give me more leverage to twist it out.
Twisting which way? Like the rebar was vertical and the Rebar was rotating in a horizontal plane?


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #17 on: October 09, 2017, 10:20:08 PM
Oh man :facepalm: That is bad :-\ What were you doing when that happened :think: sometimes it is a bad cast and the person usually isn't doing something overly tough for the tool :ahhh

I had it gripped on a piece of rebar that was stuck in the ground to give me more leverage to twist it out.
Twisting which way? Like the rebar was vertical and the Rebar was rotating in a horizontal plane?

Yes, exactly.


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #18 on: October 09, 2017, 10:49:41 PM
OK, that doesn't sound so bad. So it wasn't the Rebar that was being twisted, just the rebar.  ;)
What is worse is when the pliers are twisted about their longitudinal axis (this is hard to explain in words!).
« Last Edit: October 09, 2017, 10:50:44 PM by Syncop8r »


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #19 on: October 10, 2017, 02:56:36 AM
So rebar broke a Rebar :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh

 ::)

Sorry it had to be said :D


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #20 on: October 10, 2017, 03:11:00 AM
Perhaps he can get it Re-rebarred?  :think:


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #21 on: October 10, 2017, 10:51:24 AM
...and I just paid for a new Rebar yesterday after winning an eBay bid



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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #22 on: October 10, 2017, 11:36:22 AM
...and I just paid for a new Rebar yesterday after winning an eBay bid

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What's so bad about that? It's a good tool.  :cheers:
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #23 on: October 10, 2017, 11:38:00 AM
...and I just paid for a new Rebar yesterday after winning an eBay bid

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What's so bad about that? It's a good tool.  :cheers:
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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #24 on: October 10, 2017, 12:03:44 PM
The Rebar is a great tool :tu: but time to time there are some with bad castings that will break :ahhh

Congrats on the win An0n :like:


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #25 on: October 10, 2017, 01:55:06 PM
So rebar broke a Rebar :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh

 ::)

Sorry it had to be said :D

Yup, the irony is not lost on me lol.


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #26 on: October 10, 2017, 02:35:17 PM
The Rebar is a great tool :tu: but time to time there are some with bad castings that will break :ahhh

Congrats on the win An0n :like:

It's hard to be sure from the pic, but that does look like quite a clean break, with no obvious casting defects


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #27 on: October 10, 2017, 04:39:26 PM
The Rebar is a great tool :tu: but time to time there are some with bad castings that will break :ahhh

Congrats on the win An0n :like:


Thanks, Poncho65....I guess? Now I don't know what to feel since warranty in our country is nonexistent for LMs bought abroad  :D :think: :-\ :rant: :cheers:


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #28 on: October 10, 2017, 04:46:58 PM
It is my guess from the picture, the pliers broke, not because of the pressure applied to the handles, but due to the material being held, shifted, torquing the the pliers jaws opposite directions. 
Something will give, and it was good no one was hurt as result. 


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Re: Well this happened yesterday
Reply #29 on: October 10, 2017, 04:48:10 PM
The Rebar is a great tool :tu: but time to time there are some with bad castings that will break :ahhh

Congrats on the win An0n :like:


Thanks, Poncho65....I guess? Now I don't know what to feel since warranty in our country is nonexistent for LMs bought abroad  :D :think: :-\ :rant: :cheers:

If you bought it to use it, then use it. Even if some calamitous failure happened, I am sure one of our members could help with getting the tool to a LM dealership somewhere that does have functional warranty support  :cheers:


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