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History of Phillips on US army,scouts and SAKs
on: February 02, 2018, 12:26:02 PM
Came across this interesting article from Knife World which explains why Phillips drivers were first added to pocket knives (the Devil's Brigade World War 2)
 and from there continued to Boy Scouts knives.
Could be this is before Vic added it to their pocket knives (1952 ?)
http://ibdennis.com/Screwing%200104.pdf

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Re: History of Phillips on US army,scouts and SAKs
Reply #1 on: February 02, 2018, 12:33:05 PM
Fascinating! Thanks for sharing this Shalom  :salute:  :like:
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Re: History of Phillips on US army,scouts and SAKs
Reply #2 on: February 02, 2018, 01:57:42 PM
Very cool, thanks!  :cheers:
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Re: History of Phillips on US army,scouts and SAKs
Reply #3 on: February 02, 2018, 01:58:22 PM
One thing that continues to amaze me is the innovation out of the Pacific northwest. So many knife companies and ground breaking ideas have come from the Portland and surrounding areas. Mind blown

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Re: History of Phillips on US army,scouts and SAKs
Reply #4 on: February 02, 2018, 02:03:06 PM
Good article!
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Re: History of Phillips on US army,scouts and SAKs
Reply #5 on: February 02, 2018, 02:19:17 PM
Great find!  :cheers:
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Re: History of Phillips on US army,scouts and SAKs
Reply #6 on: February 02, 2018, 02:43:51 PM
Thanks for sharing the article Shalom!  :like: :tu: :tu:
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Re: History of Phillips on US army,scouts and SAKs
Reply #7 on: February 02, 2018, 03:38:58 PM
Thanks for sharing this with us! :like:
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Re: History of Phillips on US army,scouts and SAKs
Reply #8 on: February 02, 2018, 04:17:33 PM
Of course, my ski bindings use torx screws.... :facepalm:
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Re: History of Phillips on US army,scouts and SAKs
Reply #9 on: February 02, 2018, 04:39:41 PM
Thanks, Shalom. It is very interesting!

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Re: History of Phillips on US army,scouts and SAKs
Reply #10 on: February 02, 2018, 09:55:03 PM
Interesting article!  Thanks.   :cheers:

One point: the 10th Mountain Division is not the same as the Devil's Brigade (1st Special Service Force).
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Re: History of Phillips on US army,scouts and SAKs
Reply #11 on: February 02, 2018, 10:42:11 PM
A U S Army ski repair kit. The pliers have a wrench on one handle, a regular slotted screwdriver on the other. I've also read that these pliers were purchased by Finland for their ski troops.

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Re: History of Phillips on US army,scouts and SAKs
Reply #12 on: February 03, 2018, 12:25:37 AM
Quote from: Shalom on February 02, 2018, 12:26:02 PM
Came across this interesting article from Knife World which explains why Phillips drivers were first added to pocket knives (the Devil's Brigade World War 2)
 and from there continued to Boy Scouts knives.
Could be this is before Vic added it to their pocket knives (1952 ?)
http://ibdennis.com/Screwing%200104.pdf
Great find, thanks!

The US Army knife. (USAK?) Really nice designs. Proves the Swiss weren't the only ones making army knives at that time. I wonder if the US Army knew about the Swiss soldier's knife before WW2?

If the Vic Phillips was introduced in 1952, this one preceded it by some years, being introduced during WW2. Maybe, if Vic and Wenger knew about it, there was less need for a Phillips SD in Europe, or anywhere outside of the US. For instance, joinery in NZ was held together by those awful antiquated slotted screws until crazy recently, within the last 30-odd years as far as I can see.
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Re: History of Phillips on US army,scouts and SAKs
Reply #13 on: February 03, 2018, 12:27:58 AM
Quote from: ColoSwiss on February 02, 2018, 10:42:11 PM
A U S Army ski repair kit. The pliers have a wrench on one handle, a regular slotted screwdriver on the other. I've also read that these pliers were purchased by Finland for their ski troops.
US Army pliers, or USAP? :D

I've never seen a tool like this before, cheers. How ingenious! A tool that needs to be more widely available. :gimme:
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Re: History of Phillips on US army,scouts and SAKs
Reply #14 on: February 03, 2018, 02:12:34 AM
Quote from: Sawl Goodman on February 03, 2018, 12:27:58 AM
Quote from: ColoSwiss on February 02, 2018, 10:42:11 PM
A U S Army ski repair kit. The pliers have a wrench on one handle, a regular slotted screwdriver on the other. I've also read that these pliers were purchased by Finland for their ski troops.
US Army pliers, or USAP? :D

I've never seen a tool like this before, cheers. How ingenious! A tool that needs to be more widely available. :gimme:

The pliers was available commercially in the US for some years after the war. I bought one as a Christmas gift for my Dad many years ago, but can't find it in his tools. Believe a cheap copy is still made in China.
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Re: History of Phillips on US army,scouts and SAKs
Reply #15 on: February 03, 2018, 06:06:23 PM
Quote from: ColoSwiss on February 02, 2018, 09:55:03 PM
Interesting article!  Thanks.   :cheers:

One point: the 10th Mountain Division is not the same as the Devil's Brigade (1st Special Service Force).

You are correct, the 10th Mountain Division is not the same as the Devil's Brigade.
I was thrown off by numerous (and erroneous) references like the following:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/362231286164?ul_noapp=true
 Thank you ,I stand corrected ! :salute:

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Re: History of Phillips on US army,scouts and SAKs
Reply #16 on: February 03, 2018, 10:29:59 PM
Quote from: Shalom on February 03, 2018, 06:06:23 PM
Quote from: ColoSwiss on February 02, 2018, 09:55:03 PM
Interesting article!  Thanks.   :cheers:

One point: the 10th Mountain Division is not the same as the Devil's Brigade (1st Special Service Force).

You are correct, the 10th Mountain Division is not the same as the Devil's Brigade.
I was thrown off by numerous (and erroneous) references like the following:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/362231286164?ul_noapp=true
 Thank you ,I stand corrected ! :salute:

No problem. 10th Mountain is kind of a Colorado tradition. They trained at Camp Hale, up near Leadville, Colorado; and after the war veterans of the outfit played a major role in establishing the Colorado ski industry.
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Re: History of Phillips on US army,scouts and SAKs
Reply #17 on: February 04, 2018, 12:15:21 AM
The Devil's Brigade (First Special Service Force), were formed up and trained here in my home town in Montana. It was an amalgamation of Canadian and US military personnel who trained for extreme conditions. They spent considerable training time skiing. They were a fierce group of soldiers with an unconventional attitudes, many of whom went on to help form up the US Army Special Forces.

They were better known for a different kind of knife.......



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