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My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
on: November 10, 2017, 04:06:59 PM
So, this forum all in all is a really nice place. Especially so if it is considered in the wider context of the internet. :cheers:

But sometimes, as non-native user of english language, I almost miss some light grammar nazism on part of the native speakers. As it stands I have no actual feedback on the weird ways I use it. I am certain that I do, as I learned it mostly through point and click adventure computer games, being to lazy to search for subtitles for movies and listening to a truckload (well ok, ipodload actually) of audiobooks. So what I use must be a weird mix of English with some translated Slovenian language thrown in.  :D

So what do the rest of non-native anglophones think of this? Do we hang out in a to nice a place to hone our language skills?  :D

On the other hand, as someone said, as long as you can make yourself understood and others can understand you your language skills are sufficient.  :D
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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #1 on: November 10, 2017, 04:20:43 PM
You write English better than I write Slovenian, and I think that goes for most of us.  :P ;)
You also write with better grammar than lots of native English speakers I've encountered online.... :cheers:
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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #2 on: November 10, 2017, 04:22:21 PM
I am a native English speaker and still end up editing my posts a couple of times to make the grammar better. I'm too used to text speak nowadays so my grammar is atrocious.



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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #3 on: November 10, 2017, 04:26:13 PM
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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #4 on: November 10, 2017, 04:38:32 PM
As long as the meaning is conveyed then the odd spelling or grammatical error is of no consequence.   :cheers:

Like Kev I also end up going back and editing my posts sometimes, but to be honest I pay very little attention to where in the world the poster is from. The members here who aren't native English speakers do a better job than I do in the other four languages I speak. :facepalm:
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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #5 on: November 10, 2017, 06:03:00 PM
I tend to do my very best to write in correct scentences. For some reason grammar became more important for me these last few years. Maybe because it's something I feel like it shouldn't be lost in this digital world full off abbreviations.
I have to admit though, that I care more for correct English grammar then German of French. Simply because those languages aren't mastered by me (I can explain and understand alot in these languages, writing is more difficult).

I do wonder how native English speakers feel about my English though :think:


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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #6 on: November 10, 2017, 06:23:24 PM
In the case of you, and Lister, Pfrsantos, and many other people on this forum for whom their first language is not English, if I didn't know better, I would think that your first(and primary) language was English.  :salute:

I mean, look at all those puns and the wordplay, etc, in English!  :o

(I get the feeling that this post is not very good, grammatically speaking.  :facepalm: Can anyone chime in?)
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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #7 on: November 10, 2017, 06:29:13 PM
In your case, Lister's, pfrsantos' and many other people on this forum, for whom the first language is not English, if I didn't knew better, I would think that your first (and primary) language was English.  :salute:

I mean, look at all those puns and the wordplay, etc., in English!  :o

(I get the feeling that this post is not very good, grammatically speaking.  :facepalm: Can anyone chime in?)

FTFY...

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I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #8 on: November 10, 2017, 06:33:53 PM
In your case, Lister's, pfrsantos' and many other people on this forum, for whom the first language is not English, if I didn't knew better, I would think that your first (and primary) language was English.  :salute:

I mean, look at all those puns and the wordplay, etc., in English!  :o

(I get the feeling that this post is not very good, grammatically speaking.  :facepalm: Can anyone chime in?)

FTFY...

 :salute: :tu:
:cheers:
(Man, I really need to up my grammar game.  :facepalm:
I didn't even notice those errors)
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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #9 on: November 10, 2017, 06:59:16 PM
You write English better than I write Slovenian, and I think that goes for most of us.  :P ;)
You also write with better grammar than lots of native English speakers I've encountered online.... :cheers:
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I thrown in German words to my posts every once in a  while to keep things spannend.
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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #10 on: November 10, 2017, 07:03:47 PM
You write English better than I write Slovenian, and I think that goes for most of us.  ;)
You also write with better grammar than lots of native English speakers I've encountered online.... :cheers:
+1

I thrown in German words to my posts every once in a  while to keep things spannend.
Spannend is dutch...
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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #11 on: November 10, 2017, 07:04:42 PM
You write English better than I write Slovenian, and I think that goes for most of us.  ;)
You also write with better grammar than lots of native English speakers I've encountered online.... :cheers:
+1

I thrown in German words to my posts every once in a  while to keep things spannend.
Spannend is dutch...
:rofl:
:rofl: :facepalm:
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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #12 on: November 10, 2017, 07:17:01 PM


You write English better than I write Slovenian, and I think that goes for most of us.  ;)
You also write with better grammar than lots of native English speakers I've encountered online.... :cheers:
+1

I thrown in German words to my posts every once in a  while to keep things spannend.
Spannend is dutch too...
:rofl:

FTFY ;)

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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #13 on: November 10, 2017, 07:51:40 PM


You write English better than I write Slovenian, and I think that goes for most of us.  ;)
You also write with better grammar than lots of native English speakers I've encountered online.... :cheers:
+1

I thrown in German words to my posts every once in a  while to keep things spannend.
Spannend is dutch too...
:rofl:

FTFY ;)

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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #14 on: November 10, 2017, 08:03:05 PM
In computer programming, language nazism is a must. In natural language, it´s unneccesary most of the times. As a programming polyglot I spot errors every now and again but commenting on them would spoil the fun for me and for lots of others as well. Having said that, a recurring error that I find quite amusing is Mechanickal´s use of afterworths instead of afterwards.

(A search for afterworths on the entire MTo site will yield 11 hits. One by Kevin Davey, one by pfrsantos, and 9 (!) by Mechanickal. At least he´s consequent).

PS Everyone makes missteaks. Including me.

PSPS I´ve noticed that many of our US based brethren use a textual rendering of spoken English. Usually incorrect, but perfectly understandable.

PSPSPS Read some of Magentus´ posts for some really weird usage of English.
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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #15 on: November 10, 2017, 08:39:48 PM
In computer programming, language nazism is a must. In natural language, it´s unneccesary most of the times. As a programming polyglot I spot errors every now and again but commenting on them would spoil the fun for me and for lots of others as well. Having said that, a recurring error that I find quite amusing is Mechanickal´s use of afterworths instead of afterwards.

(A search for afterworths on the entire MTo site will yield 11 hits. One by Kevin Davey, one by pfrsantos, and 9 (!) by Mechanickal. At least he´s consequent).

PS Everyone makes missteaks. Including me.

PSPS I´ve noticed that many of our US based brethren use a textual rendering of spoken English. Usually incorrect, but perfectly understandable.

PSPSPS Read some of Magentus´ posts for some really weird usage of English.
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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #16 on: November 10, 2017, 08:40:11 PM


In computer programming, language nazism is a must. In natural language, it´s unneccesary most of the times. As a programming polyglot I spot errors every now and again but commenting on them would spoil the fun for me and for lots of others as well. Having said that, a recurring error that I find quite amusing is Mechanickal´s use of afterworths instead of afterwards.

(A search for afterworths on the entire MTo site will yield 11 hits. One by Kevin Davey, one by pfrsantos, and 9 (!) by Mechanickal. At least he´s consequent).

PS Everyone makes missteaks. Including me.

PSPS I´ve noticed that many of our US based brethren use a textual rendering of spoken English. Usually incorrect, but perfectly understandable.

PSPSPS Read some of Magentus´ posts for some really weird usage of English.

OMFG! :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
I never even knew!
Why didn't you tell me? :cry:
Oh wait, you just said so...

And probably so you could have a laugh afterworths... wards

Never again! Afterwards it is!
Even though my muscle memory doesn't agree..


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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #17 on: November 10, 2017, 08:41:42 PM


In computer programming, language nazism is a must. In natural language, it´s unneccesary most of the times. As a programming polyglot I spot errors every now and again but commenting on them would spoil the fun for me and for lots of others as well. Having said that, a recurring error that I find quite amusing is Mechanickal´s use of afterworths instead of afterwards.

(A search for afterworths on the entire MTo site will yield 11 hits. One by Kevin Davey, one by pfrsantos, and 9 (!) by Mechanickal. At least he´s consequent).

PS Everyone makes missteaks. Including me.

PSPS I´ve noticed that many of our US based brethren use a textual rendering of spoken English. Usually incorrect, but perfectly understandable.

PSPSPS Read some of Magentus´ posts for some really weird usage of English.

OMFG! :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
I never even knew!
Why didn't you tell me? :cry:
Oh wait, you just said so...

And probably so you could have a laugh afterworths... wards

Never again! Afterwards it is!
Even though my muscle memory doesn't agree..
If it makes you feel better, I've never noticed.  :rofl:

I wonder what mistakes I make consistently?  :think:
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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #18 on: November 10, 2017, 08:49:44 PM

And probably so you could have a laugh afterworths... wards


I´ve been waiting a long time for someone to bring up the subject.  :D


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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #19 on: November 10, 2017, 08:50:52 PM


In computer programming, language nazism is a must. In natural language, it´s unneccesary most of the times. As a programming polyglot I spot errors every now and again but commenting on them would spoil the fun for me and for lots of others as well. Having said that, a recurring error that I find quite amusing is Mechanickal´s use of afterworths instead of afterwards.

(A search for afterworths on the entire MTo site will yield 11 hits. One by Kevin Davey, one by pfrsantos, and 9 (!) by Mechanickal. At least he´s consequent).

PS Everyone makes missteaks. Including me.

PSPS I´ve noticed that many of our US based brethren use a textual rendering of spoken English. Usually incorrect, but perfectly understandable.

PSPSPS Read some of Magentus´ posts for some really weird usage of English.

OMFG! :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
I never even knew!
Why didn't you tell me? :cry:
Oh wait, you just said so...

And probably so you could have a laugh afterworths... wards

Never again! Afterwards it is!
Even though my muscle memory doesn't agree..
If it makes you feel better, I've never noticed.  :rofl:

I wonder what mistakes I make consistently?  :think:
Besides writing a post?
:rofl:

Sorry buddy, couldn't let this one pass up :whistle:


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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #20 on: November 10, 2017, 08:51:20 PM

And probably so you could have a laugh afterworths... wards


I´ve been waiting a long time for someone to bring up the subject.  :D


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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #21 on: November 10, 2017, 09:16:04 PM
I want to correct things but don't want to upset anyone.
Usually it is native English-speaking people I want to correct on places like Facebook though rather than non-English speaking people here who do a pretty good job.

Things like "I should of" instead of "I should have", "opps" instead of "oops", they're their there who's whose etc.


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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #22 on: November 10, 2017, 09:20:21 PM


I want to correct things but don't want to upset anyone.
Usually it is native English-speaking people I want to correct on places like Facebook though rather than non-English speaking people here who do a pretty good job.

Things like "I should of" instead of "I should have", "opps" instead of "oops", they're their there who's whose etc.

"Live" instead of "life" :D


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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #23 on: November 10, 2017, 09:27:29 PM
The list of errors is long and varied, but we all make mistakes and life's too short to get hung up on that sort of thing. 8)

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I agree with Syncop8r too, but just assume they're not native english speakers.  Why else would you make so many errors? :whistle:
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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #24 on: November 10, 2017, 09:47:45 PM
Make errors?
I thought: make mistakes, and commit errors :angel:
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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #26 on: November 10, 2017, 10:19:37 PM
I want to correct things but don't want to upset anyone.
Usually it is native English-speaking people I want to correct on places like Facebook though rather than non-English speaking people here who do a pretty good job.

Things like "I should of" instead of "I should have", "opps" instead of "oops", they're their there who's whose etc.

"Live" instead of "life" :D
I haven't seen that one much.
Loose / lose is a common one though.


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Reply #27 on: November 10, 2017, 10:30:53 PM
There are many knifes on this site.  8)
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Reply #28 on: November 10, 2017, 11:05:02 PM
Too and to too...

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Re: My musings on the lack of grammar nazis
Reply #29 on: November 10, 2017, 11:21:50 PM


In computer programming, language nazism is a must. In natural language, it´s unneccesary most of the times. As a programming polyglot I spot errors every now and again but commenting on them would spoil the fun for me and for lots of others as well. Having said that, a recurring error that I find quite amusing is Mechanickal´s use of afterworths instead of afterwards.

(A search for afterworths on the entire MTo site will yield 11 hits. One by Kevin Davey, one by pfrsantos, and 9 (!) by Mechanickal. At least he´s consequent).

PS Everyone makes missteaks. Including me.

PSPS I´ve noticed that many of our US based brethren use a textual rendering of spoken English. Usually incorrect, but perfectly understandable.

PSPSPS Read some of Magentus´ posts for some really weird usage of English.

OMFG! :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
I never even knew!
Why didn't you tell me? :cry:
Oh wait, you just said so...

And probably so you could have a laugh afterworths... wards

Never again! Afterwards it is!
Even though my muscle memory doesn't agree..
If it makes you feel better, I've never noticed.  :rofl:

I wonder what mistakes I make consistently?  :think:
Besides writing a post?
:rofl:

Sorry buddy, couldn't let this one pass up :whistle:
:twak: :twak: :twak:

 
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:rofl:

I don't have a huge amount of grammar training, so I tend to go by my gut feelings.  :facepalm:
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